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Damian Collins MP - football transprency bill (6 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Jack Griffin
  • Start date Mar 16, 2012
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Jack Griffin

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  • Mar 16, 2012
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HEAR HEAR!

Lifted in full from http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/n...bill_debated_in_parliament_734770/index.shtml

MPs debate football finance and creditors rule

An MP, who has taken measures to try and find out exactly who owns Coventry City, has tabled a bill in Parliament calling for total transparency on club ownership and an end to the “football creditors rule”. The Football (Financial Transparency) Bill has been introduced by Damian Collins MP who sits on the influential Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee.

Collins said: "I believe that it is important that we take a stand and do our bit to clean up football in our country and give our fans a proper say and stake in how their clubs are run."

If passed any club playing in the top four tiers of English and Scottish professional football would be required by law to identity its owners. Clubs would also have to reveal any “outstanding creditors”, who owned their stadium, and training ground.

The Conservative MP's Bill would also place a legal imperative on clubs to declare any “third party stake” in their players. This aims to prevent a repeat of the 2006 Carlos Tevez-Javier Mascherano case. The Argentinean pair moved from Brazilian side Corinthians to West Ham United but it emerged that both players’ “economic rights” were owned by third party companies.

The Premier League fined the Hammers £5.5m in April 2007 but chose not to dock the club any points. Tevez subsequently played a major role in keeping the Hammers in the top-flight, much to the chagrin of relegated Sheffield United. In 2008 the Premier League introduced its own rules barring third party ownership and Collins’ Bill would enshrine this in law.

Football creditors rule

The Bill would also put an end to the controversial football creditors rule which requires clubs to prioritise football debts ahead of those from outside the game. This means a club that has gone into administration can continue to pay its players and other clubs in full while small businesses and non-football contractors might receive a tiny fraction of what they are owed.

Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs challenged the rule at the High Court in November 2011. Lawyers representing HMRC called the football creditors rule “the ugly side of the beautiful game” and called for it to be overturned. The Premier League and Football League dispute this and argue that the rule is fair and necessary. Mr Justice David Richards’ verdict is expected in the next few weeks.

Speaking in the House of Commons, Collins said: "I believe we should be concerned when communities have to stand by powerless when their club is stripped of its assets and left drowning in a sea of debt it can never hope to repay. I believe we should be concerned when taxpayers lose millions in unpaid taxes when clubs go into administration, and when local businesses are left out of pocket and at risk of financial failure as a result.

"I believe that we should be concerned when, in a global game, millions of pounds are passing in and out of this country to buy clubs and players and we cannot be sure of the source or destination of that money. I believe we should be concerned when players can effectively be trafficked around the world under the control of the third-party interests who control them."

John Mann MP's (Lab) said the Bill was "a very worthy proposal" and suggested its scope be widened to include non-league outfits: "Far more non-league clubs have gone into administration, and a considerable number have been liquidated.

"Whether in Worksop, Halifax, York, Wrexham, Crawley, Salisbury, Boston or Lincoln, non-league football across the country has been plagued by the problem of people buying clubs, asset-stripping and attempting to develop the land. It is a fundamental problem." This was agreed and the Bill will get its second reading in Parliament on Friday 27th April.

Collins’ Bill is what’s known as a 10-Minute Rule. While this type of Bill rarely passes into law – the last time this happened was in 2002 – they serve a very useful purpose in drawing media attention onto a specific issue.

The Football (Financial Transparency) Bill asks: “That leave be given to bring in a Bill to require a football club playing in the top four tiers of English and Scottish professional football to disclose the identity of its owner, the identity of the owner of its home playing ground, training ground, any intellectual property associated with the club or a third party stake in its players and the identities of outstanding creditors; to require all creditors of a football club to be compensated equally should the club go into administration; and for connected purposes.”
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BurbageSkyBlues

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  • Mar 16, 2012
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Here here....
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 16, 2012
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It's such a shame he's Conservative-bit more likeable now.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 16, 2012
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
It's such a shame he's Conservative-bit more likeable now.
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Well it's never gonna be a green issue is it. You're MP will be more interested in wind turbines no doubt.
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Mar 16, 2012
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If it's wind turbines you want you can have some of ours up here in Lincolnshire. They are all over the place!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 16, 2012
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kduffy said:
Well it's never gonna be a green issue is it. You're MP will be more interested in wind turbines no doubt.
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Unfortunately I'm included in the Hove constituency so it's all blue for me.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 16, 2012
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Unfortunately I'm included in the Hove constituency so it's all blue for me.
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Shame Caroline Lucas seems half decent for a politician
 

BurbageSkyBlues

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  • Mar 17, 2012
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It never ceases to amaze.....someone wants to fight our cause, but gets knocked because of his political colours?

Surely, if his sentiment agrees with ours, he gets our backing? What is the point in having representatives, if they cannot raise our issues on our behalf, simply because you don't agree with all of his beliefs.
 
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Macca

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  • Mar 17, 2012
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Yep I m only interested if he's labour. Then I could also thank him for him and his mugs spending a good 13 years ruining the country
 
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Ashdown

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  • Mar 17, 2012
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Fair play to him, without more transparency, especially at the lower levels the game will crumble as clubs start folding.
 

Sky Blue Sheepy

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  • Mar 17, 2012
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Lets leave political parties out of this for now. The proposition sounds fantastic, it would help local businesses as well as stop groups like... Well, faceless corporations like SISU from remaining as such. They could be funded by the Taliban for all we know.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 17, 2012
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BurbageSkyBlues said:
It never ceases to amaze.....someone wants to fight our cause, but gets knocked because of his political colours?

Surely, if his sentiment agrees with ours, he gets our backing? What is the point in having representatives, if they cannot raise our issues on our behalf, simply because you don't agree with all of his beliefs.
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My point was made in jest to be fair-I wouldn't choose a footy forum for political debate.
 

oldskyblue58

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  • Mar 17, 2012
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Well done Mr Collins ........... but it is only a small start
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Mar 17, 2012
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For goodness sake what does it matter which colour a politician wears? Most of them take their colours (like us) from their parents. If the bloke makes a good point and is prepared to work in order to get it over then it makes no difference at all in my book. Most of them are only in it for their own gain anyhow, they don't give a damn about us.
 

BurbageSkyBlues

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  • Mar 17, 2012
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Tonylinc, that was my point exactly, I think political colours are irrelevant- if a politician is making a stand for something that is dear to your heart, you should support him!

Brighton, sorry- no worries, apologies if my post seemed to make a point against you, it wasn't intended that way

I just believe that supporting a club should not be aligned to any particular political bent. If you support the sky blues, it should not matter if you are red, pink or blue politically. Equally, if your heart is in the good of the game, people from all walks of life should be proud to support your stance, as with mr Collins.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 17, 2012
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BurbageSkyBlues said:
Tonylinc, that was my point exactly, I think political colours are irrelevant- if a politician is making a stand for something that is dear to your heart, you should support him!

Brighton, sorry- no worries, apologies if my post seemed to make a point against you, it wasn't intended that way

I just believe that supporting a club should not be aligned to any particular political bent. If you support the sky blues, it should not matter if you are red, pink or blue politically. Equally, if your heart is in the good of the game, people from all walks of life should be proud to support your stance, as with mr Collins.
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No harm taken Burbage!
 
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