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Damascus falls (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter DrPoolittle
  • Start date Dec 8, 2024
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DrPoolittle

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #1
Wow. Syria, Russia and Iran have played a dangerous game by deliberately fostering the rise of ISIS as a counter weight to the “moderate“ opposition.

Now that ISIS has collapsed, a renewed opposition has been able to make progress.

Another failed state in the making
 
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Ian1779

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #2
So are the rebels ISIS backed, Al-Qeada backed or CIA backed?
 

Como

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #3
This is excellent news for asylum seekers they will be able to return in safety.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #4
Yep is it an Islamist uprising??
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #5
Ian1779 said:
So are the rebels ISIS backed, Al-Qeada backed or CIA backed?
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Turkish backed I read earlier
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #6
Thought they were anti kpp?
 

Ian1779

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #7
PVA said:
Turkish backed I read earlier
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Is that Turkish backed ISIS, Al-Qaeda or CIA?
 
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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #8
Damascus Falls eh? Are they near Niagra Falls?
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Dec 9, 2024
  • #9
I think the world needs to be careful what we wish for. The overthrow of so-called despots like Gaddafi and Saddam, and now Assad, leave vacuums which have the potential to be populated by other actors which could cause further instability and threats to geopolitical stability.
HTS has been on the UK's list of banned terrorist organisations since forging alliances with al Qaeda and then ISIS. While HTS appear to have broken away from them (though they are in complete disarray nowadays), just because their leader is going to change his name to something slightly less "jihadi" doesn't mean that the new islamist leadership in Syria is going to be any less abhorrent towards certain sections of the population than the Taliban is in Afghanistan.
Our enemy's enemy is not necessarily our friend. We backed the Taliban against the Mujahiddin, don't forget. See where that got us!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 9, 2024
  • #10
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
I think the world needs to be careful what we wish for. The overthrow of so-called despots like Gaddafi and Saddam, and now Assad, leave vacuums which have the potential to be populated by other actors which could cause further instability and threats to geopolitical stability.
HTS has been on the UK's list of banned terrorist organisations since forging alliances with al Qaeda and then ISIS. While HTS appear to have broken away from them (though they are in complete disarray nowadays), just because their leader is going to change his name to something slightly less "jihadi" doesn't mean that the new islamist leadership in Syria is going to be any less abhorrent towards certain sections of the population than the Taliban is in Afghanistan.
Our enemy's enemy is not necessarily our friend. We backed the Taliban against the Mujahiddin, don't forget. See where that got us!
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This is so right
What is a just war and what is worth risking our own peace and security to influence
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 9, 2024
  • #11
Looks like a perfect place for the Gazans, maybe?
Who knows maybe part bigger plan.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 9, 2024
  • #12
I hate our politicians. Thick twats.

UK could remove Syrian rebel group from terror list
 
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Ian1779

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  • Dec 9, 2024
  • #13
wingy said:
Looks like a perfect place for the Gazans, maybe?
Who knows maybe part bigger plan.
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The be honest you wouldn’t put it past the Israeli government to think it’s another place they have a divine right to occupy.
 

torchomatic

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  • Dec 9, 2024
  • #14
Como said:
This is excellent news for asylum seekers they will be able to return in safety.
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Well you'll be very pleased as there are reports of people in the UK (and mainland Europe) returning to Syria.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 9, 2024
  • #15
torchomatic said:
Well you'll be very pleased as there are reports of people in the UK (and mainland Europe) returning to Syria.
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also reports of Israel bombing Syria so they might change their mind and turn round before they get back there.
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • Dec 9, 2024
  • #16
torchomatic said:
Well you'll be very pleased as there are reports of people in the UK (and mainland Europe) returning to Syria.
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If I was a Syrian I think I’d wait & see for a bit first before heading home.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Dec 9, 2024
  • #17
BodicoteSkyBlue said:
If I was a Syrian I think I’d wait & see for a bit first before heading home.
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Absolutely. Me too.
 

Como

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  • Dec 10, 2024
  • #18

UK and other European states suspend Syrians’ asylum applications

Austria prepares ‘repatriation and deportation’ programme to country where president has just been deposed
www.theguardian.com

This sort of falls into the duh category.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 10, 2024
  • #19
Just a few amo dump's apparently say's the media, the old pre emptive line again!
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Dec 10, 2024
  • #20
The old "Israel defending itself" by bombing the fuck out of other nations! I didn't realise that they had annexed the Golan Heights in 1981. It's not fucking theirs! Need to drive them out of there and back across the border.
 
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eastwoodsdustman

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  • Dec 10, 2024
  • #21
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
The old "Israel defending itself" by bombing the fuck out of other nations! I didn't realise that they had annexed the Golan Heights in 1981. It's not fucking theirs! Need to drive them out of there and back across the border.
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They're on a land grab mission again.
 
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Harry Krishner

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  • Dec 10, 2024
  • #22
The old "Israel defending itself" by bombing the fuck out of other nations! I didn't realise that they had annexed the Golan Heights in 1981. It's not fucking theirs! Need to drive them out of there and back across the border.
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Israel hung onto the Golan Heights after Syria's failed attempt to attack them from that direction. Previously, the GH overlooked Israeli kibbutzim and other villages in the Galilee, and were a source of frequent sniping.

Looks like they've wiped out the Syrian airforce and navy to avoid them falling into hostile hands.

We would do exactly the same if placed in the same situation - or perish.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #23
Its good to see Syrian women being able to celebrate the new situation within their country without the obligation to cover themselves up. I hope they can all move forward now to create a decent homeland for all people and the Islamic hard liners don’t ruin it as per Afghanistan.
 

Como

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #24
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #25
Como said:
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How Syria rebel leader Abu Mohammed al-Jolani reinvented himself

The BBC talking about "moderate jihad" had me raise an eyebrow. Almost sounds soft and pleasant.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #26
Como said:
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Is she speaking historically I mean they certainly did in Iraq prior to the first world war?
 
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Como

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #27
wingy said:
Is she speaking historically I mean they certainly did in Iraq prior to the first world war?
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There was a large Jewish population throughout the Middle East until after WW2.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #28
Como said:
There was a large Jewish population throughout the Middle East until after WW2.
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Yeah that's the!
 
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