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NortonSkyBlue

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #36
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
He's a far better footballer. Most sensible posters would agree.
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I bow to your sensible opinion. If there are any fellow supporters who wish to challenge that view please feel free to post.
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #37
Sheaf is levels above Kelly imo
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #38
riyadhskyblue said:
I bow to your sensible opinion. If there are any fellow supporters who wish to challenge that view please feel free to post.
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They're more than entitled to. I won't agree though.
 

NortonSkyBlue

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #39
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
They're more than entitled to. I won't agree though.
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As I don't agree with your opinion.
 

blunted

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #40
Footie is a squad sport now especially if the more substitute rule remains. Everyone has their favourite 11 players but selection will change game to game depending on the opposition and current fitness. There will be some players MR will always want in the team if fit like O'Hare and dare I say it Kelly. A fit Dabo is another. Even Hamer was rested near the end of last season and James as well. Osti was rested after the International. I think the strikers will rotate possibly two on two off in the second half.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #41
Moore
Dabo Hyam Fadz Rose Reid
Hamer Sheaf
O’Hare Waghorn
Walker
 

lordy_87

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #42
No doubt Sheaf is better than Kelly technically but his impact on games is not where near Kelly's level which is what would put Kelly ahead of him in our current best XI.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #43
Ccfcisparks said:
Moore
Dabo Hyam Fadz Rose Reid
Hamer Sheaf
O’Hare Waghorn
Walker
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That defence worries me. Needs three or four more.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #44
shmmeee said:
That defence worries me. Needs three or four more.
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I said to Boosh we need 2 centre halves and a LWB minimum
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #45
shmmeee said:
That defence worries me. Needs three or four more.
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So out of Moore, Dabo, Rose, MacFadz, Hyam or Reid which three or four worry you ?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #46
slowpoke said:
So out of Moore, Dabo, Rose, MacFadz, Hyam or Reid which three or four worry you ?
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Rose Mcfadz Hyam Reid
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #47
slowpoke said:
So out of Moore, Dabo, Rose, MacFadz, Hyam or Reid which three or four worry you ?
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Only McFadz is proven at this level. Dabo and Rose might step up. And McFadz will be a year older.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #48
You mean the whole defence then sorry pal you don’t know what your on about for example when have you seen Reid play
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #49
slowpoke said:
You mean the whole defence then sorry pal you don’t know what your on about for example when have you seen Reid play
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No not the whole defence, but do you think we should start the season with that back 5?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #50
slowpoke said:
You mean the whole defence then sorry pal you don’t know what your on about for example when have you seen Reid play
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We were the joint 4th worst team in the league with two others for GA. It was also glaringly obvious that mistakes at the back were causing us significant issues in games.

Do you not think that's a problem in need of solving? We need improvements in that department otherwise last season's issues will just plague us once again this season.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #51
slowpoke said:
You mean the whole defence then sorry pal you don’t know what your on about for example when have you seen Reid play
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Well the reason for that is he hasn’t played a game yet. And hasn’t looked close since he signed. Did he even make the bench? Also the fact Robins is apparently after two LWBs suggests he doesn’t rate him much either.

I hope Rose and Dabo step up. I hope McFadzean has another year in him. The rest are OK as backup but I’d want better if we’re to progress from last season where our defence was our weakest point.
 
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stupot07

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #52
shmmeee said:
Well the reason for that is he hasn’t played a game yet. And hasn’t looked close since he signed. Did he even make the bench? Also the fact Robins is apparently after two LWBs suggests he doesn’t rate him much either.

I hope Rose and Dabo step up. I hope McFadzean has another year in him. The rest are OK as backup but I’d want better if we’re to progress from last season where our defence was our weakest point.
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I agree. Reid has played 20 first team games in the Scottish Premiership for a team near the bottom of the league. He's got injured when he joined, but didn't make it on the bench at all last season when he did get fit despite us only having one lwb.

Rose was hit and miss with injury problems, Hyam struggles especially in possession for long periods, Fadz played well at the end of the season but was still at fault for too many goals and is a year older. I wasn't particularly convinced with Dabo last season either, but hopefully that is just injuries.

On paper that defence without McCallum and Osti is weaker, but there are still signings to come.

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DannyThomas_1981

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #53
Boosh said:
Sheaf is levels above Kelly imo
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Different type of players. But as always your viewpoint is typically moronic. I’ve concluded at this point that you must either be Grendel or his son - there can be no other explanation for your nonsense.
 
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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #54
DannyThomas_1981 said:
Different type of players. But as always your viewpoint is typically moronic. I’ve concluded at this point that you must either be Grendel or his son - there can be no other explanation for your nonsense.
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Maybe your Ifollow shows a different game overseas? Where are you today Tokyo?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #55
DannyThomas_1981 said:
Different type of players. But as always your viewpoint is typically moronic. I’ve concluded at this point that you must either be Grendel or his son - there can be no other explanation for your nonsense.
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How are they different types of players? Would you play both together?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #56
Did we improve in the last part of the season defensively ??
 
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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #57
Sky Blue Pete said:
Did we improve in the last part of the season defensively ??
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When we had Matty James. I don’t know how we’ll survive with that waste of space Sheaf
 
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DannyThomas_1981

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #58
Ccfcisparks said:
How are they different types of players? Would you play both together?
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Depends on the formation Sparksy. Kelly is the defensive midfielder who disrupts the opposition and has incredible work rate and drive. A lot of his work is un-noticed but he's a vital cog in our team.

Sheaf is more of a ball player and is best suited to a more offensive role. The question from last season would be - do you play Sheaf ahead of James, O'Hare and Hamer - I would have said no. But I would always have wanted Kelly in the team. For this season I'm looking for Sheaf to progress into a more commanding role - and after one season in the Championship under his belt he's got everything to play for.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #59
DannyThomas_1981 said:
Depends on the formation Sparksy. Kelly is the defensive midfielder who disrupts the opposition and has incredible work rate and drive. A lot of his work is un-noticed but he's a vital cog in our team.

Sheaf is more of a ball player and is best suited to a more offensive role. The question from last season would be - do you play Sheaf ahead of James, O'Hare and Hamer - I would have said no. But I would always have wanted Kelly in the team. For this season I'm looking for Sheaf to progress into a more commanding role - and after one season in the Championship under his belt he's got everything to play for.
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Crazy how people view players in different lights. I would say Sheaf is anything but offensive.
 
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DannyThomas_1981

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #60
Boosh said:
When we had Matty James. I don’t know how we’ll survive with that waste of space Sheaf
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It's so easy to simply write off players behind a key board - particularly when you have continuously demonstrated a total lack of knowledge of the game.

How about something more balanced or at least trying to support the lads in the shirt vs. constant negativity?

It's tiring for the rest of us - must be tiring for yourself to be so negative about the team you claim you support? Serious suggestion.
 
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ptr

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #61
Lot of people have gone for Reid at left back. I think we may see Brandon Mason a bit in the friendlies. Forgotten Man.
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #62
DannyThomas_1981 said:
It's so easy to simply write off players behind a key board - particularly when you have continuously demonstrated a total lack of knowledge of the game.

How about something more balanced or at least trying to support the lads in the shirt vs. constant negativity?

It's tiring for the rest of us - must be tiring for yourself to be so negative about the team you claim you support? Serious suggestion.
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No Danny I actually do support the club I don’t just attend once every few years Why do you ignore my posts where I’m positive like when I said Shipley should be captain?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #63
Our fans have really short memories when it comes to Kelly. I really don't get it. The bloke is immense.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #64
DannyThomas_1981 said:
Different type of players. But as always your viewpoint is typically moronic. I’ve concluded at this point that you must either be Grendel or his son - there can be no other explanation for your nonsense.
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To be fair I’m with Boosh on this one. Although they’re both defensive midfielders Sheaf is a better footballer. Kelly has qualities such as leadership, organisation and influence. But based purely on ability Sheaf is ahead of Kelly
 

DannyThomas_1981

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #65
Boosh said:
No Danny I actually do support the club I don’t just attend once every few years Why do you ignore my posts where I’m positive like when I said Shipley should be captain?
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Next time you post something positive Boosh my friend - I will be sure to comment on it.
As I've probably previously said; my job took me overseas for over 20 years - and I don't think that makes me less of a fan than anyone else.
I really like Shippers and want him to succeed but can't see how he should be captain without a certain place in the starting line up?
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #66
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Our fans have really short memories when it comes to Kelly. I really don't get it. The bloke is immense.
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He is a key member of our team, I’m taking purely football ability
 

DannyThomas_1981

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #67
procdoc said:
To be fair I’m with Boosh on this one. Although they’re both defensive midfielders Sheaf is a better footballer. Kelly has qualities such as leadership, organisation and influence. But based purely on ability Sheaf is ahead of Kelly
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That's ok procdoc and always respect your balanced opinion. My own view is that Kelly was far more influential when he played last season than Sheaf and they are different players - not writing Sheaf off at all - just what I saw last year.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #68
DannyThomas_1981 said:
That's ok procdoc and always respect your balanced opinion. My own view is that Kelly was far more influential when he played last season than Sheaf and they are different players - not writing Sheaf off at all - just what I saw last year.
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I think after last season Sheaf will have learned a lot from playing and training with Kelly and James and I hope he can continue to improve as he could potentially make us a lot of money
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #69
DannyThomas_1981 said:
That's ok procdoc and always respect your balanced opinion. My own view is that Kelly was far more influential when he played last season than Sheaf and they are different players - not writing Sheaf off at all - just what I saw last year.
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Why are you being so negative about Sheaf? Do you even support us? What if he reads this?
 
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DannyThomas_1981

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  • Jul 4, 2021
  • #70
Boosh said:
Why are you being so negative about Sheaf? Do you even support us? What if he reads this?
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I'm not being negative. I just said I'm not writing him off at all - right? It's tricky for any young player adjusting to the Champ and looking forward to seeing what he can do this season.
 
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