I disagree. More fans outside the ground than there are in it, standing on the hill with a huge police presence, would continue the message of never setting foot in Sixfields. Not only that but it'd cost SISU loads in extra policing. Nobody would get football banning orders either, as they would with a pitch invasion etc.
People talk about unity and leadership, but you're confusing the message to fans by encouraging them to go for this one game.
Some people aren't that strong willed and may decide they had a good time and want to go again. Don't give them that decision to make.
We need to be united in our cause, with a clear message that we not set foot inside Sixfields.
...but the fans are already split.....there are 1500 going to "home" games already....
....I bet the hill will be cordoned off as others have mentioned.....then we're snookered.....and then you'll have trouble outside (not on telly) & a sizable minority deciding to go into the ground either to make their own protests or to watch the game as they've already made the journey....end result....rubbish.
Just a thought.... is the offence to step onto the field of play? If so, can we jump over the front barrier and just stand in the area between pitch and stand? Ref would be forced to pull the game and no-one would break the law. Would only work if loads of fans did it though.
We need to do something different that does not upset neutral people.
Nothing more irritating than watching a game on TV that is interrupted by fans running on the pitch. It will do us no favours.
A good peaceful turn out on the hill is different and is more likely to get media coverage because people will see it as something different.
Just been on CWR now and actually before the match was discussed. So it is working.
We haven't been on telly yet though have we....They haven't cordoned anything off so far have they?.
Suspending NOPM for one game is a price worth paying....
apparently Sisu don't need the money for 3 years, so 1 game ain't even going to dent it....
....carrying on organising small scale minor events like picnics for 50 or sticking A4 posters on sisus London offices are now totally pointless in my opinion....
I see this SKY game as our last chance to really shake it up....
They haven't cordoned anything off so far have they? Going into the ground is what Fisher wants you to do.
We haven't been on telly yet though have we....
...The general view of other supporters outside of Coventry is that we've already rolled over & given up.....
...we need a large scale protest on national telly to prove we still care......one than cannot be avoided by panning the camera away or by cordoning off a grassy hill....
....another picnic on the hill or some A4 posters stuck on a Sisu office window will not cut the mustard.
The expense of cordoning it off, if attempted, would be temporary fencing. I'm sure there will not be a circle of police providing it 'is' announced as peaceful.
I guess a breach would be easy and lawful so lets go for it.
What is the capacity of the hill?
Be amazed if the hill is fenced off - only hapenned once that I can recall - against Man utd in a cup game. If sisu fenced it off, then this give the impressoin that mass protest is on the cards, or at least that protests have been an issue at previous games and are growing. I agree that the Trust and others need to coordinate and take some obvious leadership for this. Couple of thousand on the hill - bring a dj along to "make some noise" as the youngsters say (sorry - getting carried away)
Be amazed if the hill is fenced off - only hapenned once that I can recall - against Man utd in a cup game. If sisu fenced it off, then this give the impressoin that mass protest is on the cards, or at least that protests have been an issue at previous games and are growing. I agree that the Trust and others need to coordinate and take some obvious leadership for this. Couple of thousand on the hill - bring a dj along to "make some noise" as the youngsters say (sorry - getting carried away)
I must do Ferret, hardly Millwall are we?
Most other clubs would have seen riots by now. I'm not saying that's what we need, but that our fans have always been more easy going, and dare I say it, apathetic.
The cameras would see us....briefly....the commentator would say "look at those guys on the hill" & then its back to action........
....and every neutral viewer across the country shrugs their shoulders, drinks their pint & carries on discussing the premier league....
Wow.
Pretty certain that throwing "missiles" (which I think is the police term for objects thrown) at the pitch will still get you into trouble with the law.Protesting inside or outside the ground is not going to generate much media attention, anything other than getting the game abandoned will go unnoticed, this is where we need to be creative and inventive but within the law. Suggestions like launching a dozen tennis balls onto the pitch every two minutes from outside the ground would be perfect, major disruption to the game, major media intrest and no danger of injury to anyone.
PS SISU OUT on all the balls.
If there were enough people there on the hill I'm fairly certain Sky would send a camera up to film and probably interview the people there. If there is something they can use and insert into the pre match coverage then chances are they'll use it because it breaks up the monotony of the studio discussion. Also an empty stadium sends a far more powerful message than a full one, especially if there are more on the hill than in the ground. Also Tim can't say "I told you they'd be back" to whoever is interviewing him, if we haven't gone back.
It is to me Mustang....but then we've been through this on various threads going back weeks....We need to be in the ground for maximum coverage is that not obvious?
I came up with the mass exodus idea....there was also the black shirts or the blue ribbons on seats idea....the pitch invasion idea....but any of these or other ideas require leadership from the SBT....
....but unless I've missed it...there are still no viable, concrete plans afoot for some sort of LARGE SCALE action....
*awaits the "why don't you organise it" & "what are YOU doing" type responses*
If there were enough people there on the hill I'm fairly certain Sky would send a camera up to film and probably interview the people there. If there is something they can use and insert into the pre match coverage then chances are they'll use it because it breaks up the monotony of the studio discussion. Also an empty stadium sends a far more powerful message than a full one, especially if there are more on the hill than in the ground. Also Tim can't say "I told you they'd be back" to whoever is interviewing him, if we haven't gone back.
The reasons against the mass exodus are once people go inside and allowed Tim to say "I told you so" they might be tempted to stay for the rest of the match.
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All I know is the Trust, the KCIC & THE NOPM factions need to unite the fans, show some leadership & get something organised for this SKY game that will attract the same sort of numbers as the 5000 strong march....
If not....we may as well just throw the towel in as Sky & the wider viewing public will just equate empty seats with apathy....
A full stadium emptying sends an even more powerful message...
Jimmy, ABSOLUTELY the way forward is for the Trust and the other groups to COME UP WITH A PLAN which is workable and then drum up support for it.
The Trust did a pretty good job doing the demo to Broadgate. This will be much harder because it means having to travel. But it CAN be done IF its sensible, organised, and PUBLICISED.
I don't just mean talking about it here. Sky Blues Talk is the most popular fans forum, but many fans don't use a computer/smartphone. The Trust needs to get the message out to the Telegraph, CWR, local TV news.
Mark my words, if you get 1,000 plus on the Hill singing, Sky will love it. They'll keep cutting away to it when there's a break in play. Just like the cricket, crowd shots between deliveries of something happening.
This forum is the best place to get ideas going. We should create a sticky thread with ideas for the protest (not to be used to argue for or against it).
Of course ideas do need to be argued for or against however, to test if they work... so maybe you need two threads
We can use this one for that. Then, when we've agreed I'm right we can move on to organising it
Whatever you decide to do, please please do not get in the way of Pressley's CCFC from playing some quite brilliant football and another 3 points.
Disrupting play must be avoided.
Does anybody remember the Brighton protest circa 96? Their fans boycotted the game but then rushed into the stadium at half time. That was about the plans to sell the Goldstone and move to Gillingham I think.
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As it happens, I agree with you.
It's all been left a bit late to do it as effectively as it could have been though. Might be better to aim for the televised game after this one, to give time to do it as well as possible?
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