its a strange one to be fair, the JD seems quite general so I am not sure they could use 'positive discrimination' as a way out as there isn't really a proper rationale for it. Do you know what they would be doing specifically as it clearly isn't for Black history any anything as specific as that is it?
Personally I would get your bro to apply for it and see what reaction they give!!!
They claim on the main page that ethnic minorities are underrepresented in museums, but from what I can see that's not my brothers fault. What happened to giving a job to the best candidate?
I told him to apply for it, and claim he is of African descent. Isn't every human on the planted descended from Africans?
That's the council for you eh? Yet you think they are perfect owners of you favourite community asset.
Yes, because I agree with them on one issue means I have to agree with them on everything doesn't it?
Also I very much doubt the council have much say over its day to day running.
That was a joke and for what it's worth I 100% support the decision and believe we need a lot more initiatives like this.
You believe in racism? Or is it that form of "positive racism" that left wing intellectuals seem to love?
I think the phrase you are struggling with is "positive discrimination" - yes I support that in certain situations and this is clearly one if they is a disproportionately low number of ethnic minorities employed in these roles.
I don't agree with that at all. I don't see how any discrimination is positive. Once you justify discrimination against one group of people, it legitimises it against all.
Do you agree that Indian restaurants should be forced to take on white employees as they are disproportionately represented in that industry?
The hard fact is if in this country in many professions you are black or disabled you are less likely to be employed if you really want ill tell you some real situations where I know this has occurred. I think this whole thread has racist undertones.
My Brother come across this whilst looking for a job. He likes history so by chance looked on the Transport Museums website.
Seems to me like complete racism.
A job spec for an apprentice type job at the museum, which states:
This traineeship is only to individuals who are of either African, African-
Caribbean, Asian or Chinese descent
Here is the link so it can be seen in full context:
http://www.transport-museum.com/_userfiles/pages/files/HistoryCentreTrainee.pdf
and on their website:
http://www.transport-museum.com/gettinginvolved/WorkAtTheMuseum.aspx it comes under Role Description: ACE History Centre Trainee (PDF)
Is this a case of racism only works one way?
Anyone else find it funny that it's bigfatronssba talking about racism
Sometimes, the rationale for these situations arising, gets hidden by the action to correct them.
Maybe the reason, for there being less ethnic employees in this industry, is because those ethnic groups have a culture that is less attracted to, or interested in, transport, museum and history? Perhaps a lot of East Asian and Far East people are more interested in the growth economy of the world...ie technology? Perhaps African people have an attraction to sports, athletics, and football can be a route out of Africa for many youngsters?
Not saying that these are the reasons, but it is possible that the ethnicity employment figures are skewed by the type of job....no doubt someone will say I am racist for making this point, but it is not intended to be so.
Equality goes hand in hand with diversity. Perhaps the museum requires a more diverse approach in order to better represent the city it serves. In which case, although it isn't inclusive, it offers a better, more comprehensive experience to what is, and always has been a massively multi-cultural city.
It is democracy gone mad,we are meant to be in a democracy where what someone thinks is up to them but if a white person does it no no noIn my opinion if you look at it like that then your judging someone on their colour. If they are saying we need greater ethnic mix to represent the Coventry population then surely that is putting a limit on how many Black or Asian people can work there?
The demographics of Coventry are currently 74% white, 16% Asian, 6% Black, 2.5% Mixed Race, 1.5% Other. Now if you start saying that jobs will be designated to match the ethnicity of the local population, then what happens if a local library has a 20% Asian work force? Should some of them be sacked in order for the library to greater represent its user base?
Or perhaps prejudice limits their opportunities.
There's no shame in prejudice. It's a human thing. The trick is to be aware of them and learn how to balance them. Most people don't, which is why opportunities become limited.
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