Moff
Well-Known Member
Writing stuff like that really does make you look an arse. Why not just write it without that childish shit?
The Press Police over bias reporting towards Wasps missed this.....
http://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/wasps-mascot-helps-explain-rules-rugby-coventry-youngsters/
Littke link to the Wasps website at the end of the article
Err...because it wasn't for sale to ccfc. #thickasshit
Regarding the observer article they didn't collude with the council to suppress news. You seem to miss that point entirely. Behaviour like that will lead to suspicions and accusations. For example if you were a convicted thief and something went missing. People would suspect. Would you not agree? Or maybe the answer is the club have said they would not have done the wasps deal.
You know all these stories that the CT suppressed? Were they in the Observer at the time when the CT should have reported them?
Wouldn't quiet conversations like that be double dealing - something everyone on here seem to get up in arms about? :thinking about:
But I think we have established that guidelines are just that, an indication of best practice it doesn't mean they are appropriate in every instance or even binding. Also whilst an open sales process we would all feel was desirable the regulations and case law permit a sale to a particular party (wasn't that what was going on in 2012 & 2013 between CCC and SISU? ).
I think we are also coming round to the notion that the guidelines for land and property might not apply to a sale of unquoted shares in the same way.
Which ever way you look at it there was fault on many sides and it is a matter of degree where we as individuals place the proportionality of that blame. Bottom line is that CCFC lost out in the process acted out between CCC and SISU and the club will never get that loss back
It depends if they knew about them or not doesn't it?
Is that the new defence, if it was in the Observer or not?
Does it? There's no other possibilities? Certainly when you look at stories like prince William serving in Afghanistan it took collusion with the press as a whole to suppress that story. Is the same not possible here? Fair enough they didn't have a hack of LR's calibre on the payroll at the time but are you really suggesting that all these stories were going on under their noses without a sniff allowing the CT to suppress them on their own?
How is the telegraph reporting of Phil Townsend going?
I'd say the Observer didn't really know about it at the time, what would you say?
Whereabouts CD?
The Press Police over bias reporting towards Wasps missed this.....
http://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/wasps-mascot-helps-explain-rules-rugby-coventry-youngsters/
Yet they submitted a bid that matched Wasps :thinking about:The club have said they would not have done the Wasps deal
Coventry Telegraph said:Despite the fact that access to critical documentation was denied, the liquidator’s offer for the charity’s 50 per cent stake in the Ricoh Arena was generous – around £2.8 million
You know all these stories that the CT suppressed? Were they in the Observer at the time when the CT should have reported them?
Its on there somewhere, god knows where - their site is not the easiest to find things. From what I recall CCC, and most other councils, have guidelines which are basically an easier to digest version of various parts of the Local Government Act. At the end of the day the ownership structure of ACL means they can get away with not applying those guidelines but for me it gives a clear indication of what the 'correct' process would have been.
The administrator bid for the Charity shares only.
The details of that deal was covered by confidentiality clauses, so how do you think SISU knew what they were?IYet they submitted a bid that matched Wasps :thinking about:
We do care.
However we know why we are here and understand we need to make the most of a poor situation.
You can whinge on forever but at some point you need to move on.
We can have a 'drive everyone to the bottom' attitude but its achieves nothing.
But surely the fact that a bid was put in makes a nonsense of Fisher claiming they wouldn't have done the same deal as Wasps.
Its on there somewhere, god knows where - their site is not the easiest to find things. From what I recall CCC, and most other councils, have guidelines which are basically an easier to digest version of various parts of the Local Government Act. At the end of the day the ownership structure of ACL means they can get away with not applying those guidelines but for me it gives a clear indication of what the 'correct' process would have been.
The thing I take from that is that Wasps are having to explain the game to people, you don't have that problem with football.
Yet they submitted a bid that matched Wasps :thinking about:
You would have to ask the question of the Observer as to if they knew of the story. What seems to have happened is that Les Reid got hold of the story, CCC then moved to suppress it which led to Reid's sudden disappearance.
“Amongst other factors considered, the Wasps offer was unconditional; the Otium offer was conditional. The Wasps offer requires in effect nothing of the Trustees other than the transfer of the shares.
Coventry Telegraph said:"Should our offer be accepted, we think it will be an important moment not only for the charity and the club but also for the community in Coventry.
"In order to seize this opportunity and make the most of it for the benefit of everyone involved we propose an extraordinary and revolutionary partnership between the club and the charity.
"The objective of the partnership will be to use the power of football to raise aspirations and improve the life chances of those in the local community in Coventry, helping to achieve the Higgs Charity’s charitable objectives and the club’s ambition for the community.
"We have set out seven broad and far reaching community initiatives that are at the heart of our proposed partnership.
"We hope that these proposals can work as a springboard for our detailed discussions about how we can work together for the benefit of Coventry."
Seven 'Pillars of Partnership' are then listed and include:
1. To use the Ricoh Arena as the community hub to deliver various community programmes - a communiversity style approach.
2. To establish a communiversity at The Ricoh based on football, sports, leisure and tourism. The Ricoh could be home to a library, adult learning classes, a Communi-café, ICT suite, a recording studio and, of course, remain available as a conference facility.
3. To develop a multi-partnership with third parties to deliver wide-ranging community work. This will include developing innovative programmes with all front line services including the police, fire services, health services and employment agencies. The aim will be for all those involved to play an active role in improving the lives of all those participating in the programmes.
4. To assist in building links with schools, FE colleges and universities. Special emphasis will be given to under-privileged children and those with disabilities. Football, sports, music and the arts programmes will engage with those groups and individuals most at risk of social exclusion.
5. To tackle health and more specifically obesity issues working with the NHS/PCT/Local Council. This will be achieved with a ‘cradle to grave’ ethos and culture in which people of all ages will be given an opportunity to learn how to lead healthier lives.
6. To tackle crime in the local community working with the police and community safety groups by targeting specific areas of anti-social behaviour and juvenile crime. Football and sports projects will be delivered in the most challenging estates and postcodes to the most vulnerable people; to move them away from a life of crime towards more positive and productive activities.
7. To create pathways to employment by developing links with the LEP and local employers. This will be achieved through a “Skills for Life” programme that will be designed to attract the under achieving, under qualified and those not in education employment or training (NEET). Initial engagement would work through sport (particularly football), music and the arts first level courses and programmes.
They will be doing all that whilst still building a new stadium?
The new stadium was to be built whatever happens with the offer remember?
You keep telling everyone to move on, what to? Wasps and SISU union, hardly a marriage made in heaven? You seem to think it will be some sort of utopia, I think you will be hugely disappointed.
They will be doing all that whilst still building a new stadium?
The new stadium was to be built whatever happens with the offer remember?
He has a history of worshipping hedge funds, so it shouldn't be a surprise that he would want us to be jointly owned by two of them.
Bizarrely he has a problem with one who moved a team temporarily 35 miles but seems to hold a club that moves 95 miles as great owners.
What can we do ?
We can not buy Wasps tickets, merchandise or support them in any way.
Not very realistic though Dave. You could argue going to watch CCFC supports them as the club pays them for use of the Ricoh, we buy carparking tickets (maybe we should all go and park at Italia's car park), buy f & B when inside (remember CCFC get some benefit from this to), use the casino and other facilities at the Ricoh before and after games.
I agree with not supporting them directly with buying tickets (although according to some on here they give them all away for free) or merchandise but we are always going to have to support them in some way.
This is what I'm highly uncomfortable with, full-stop.
At some stage, I'll reach the tipping point of what's acceptable to me, and I fear it's not far away.
This is what I'm highly uncomfortable with, full-stop.
At some stage, I'll reach the tipping point of what's acceptable to me, and I fear it's not far away.
We can not buy Wasps tickets, merchandise or support them in any way.
The CCFC can't have it so nobody can attitude !!!
This drive to the bottom drives me potty.
The CCFC can't have it so nobody can attitude !!!
If we ever get rid of Wasps then what ? Back to Sisu stressing ACL.? Looking forward to that again.
I'm over it and Enjoying life.
Trying to enjoy CCFC and certainly enjoying participating in Wasps success.
Touring the UK in the week and back at weekend for Football and Rugby.
Try it, you might like it.
Don't forget Rugby tickets are free
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