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Match Thread Coventry City - Swansea City Match Thread - Saturday 21st Sep (1 Viewer)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Saddlebrains said:
You don't want to hear what I've been told this evening i assure you
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George Boateng is strapping up his boots for Leeds away?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
George Boateng is strapping up his boots for Leeds away?
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Be an improvement
 
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Matt smith

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
The shape matters, but no shape is going to succeed with players taking so long to advance the ball, giving away soft goals every week, and missing sitters at the other end.

They need to be putting in double time at the training ground to sort this out. Otherwise, we're the new Stoke on the block.
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Really feel we’ve got season after season of teams we used to ridicule

stoke to name one
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Evo1883 said:
Our form was pretty good in the league until April 6th .
We then played 10 games in 34 days including the semi final
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The thing for me mate is if I’m honest since we’ve come up we’ve not looked convincing without Vik and Gus. That was fine because we were run on a shoestring. But their sale should have meant we built a proper squad of championship players rather than two PL ones and a bunch of L1. And TBF we have.

Now I want to see us playing with some type of identity and looking convincing. The last couple of games, collapses apart, have been encouraging, but the games sandwiching them are some of the worst I’ve seen us play under Robins.

There’s always been a question mark around his ability at this level without Viveash and cheat code players. Last season I could accept we did a big rebuild and it would take time. This season we’ve ripped up the coaching staff and started again and frankly I can’t see any progression. Our players look unmotivated, confused, and are sniping at each other on the pitch. They don’t generally look like players out of their depth, just set up badly and lacking in leadership. All of which has to come down to Robins and his staff.

I’m willing to give him time, but I need to see a consistent upwards trajectory from the abject shite we’ve seen so far. Spurs was a different sort of performance and one no player at this level needs motivation for. Oxford was frankly a fluke. Watford was promising. And that alone is why I’m not calling for his head. But I have an awfully long way to go to be convinced this set up is getting the best out of this group of players.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Matt smith said:
Really feel we’ve got season after season of teams we used to ridicule

stoke to name one
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Every season Stoke spend a ton on their squad and tell themselves this will be the year that's different from all the ones before. Then the manager is sacked some point early on and they finish in the bottom half.

That's looking like being CCFC this year, but unlike Stoke we don't have gambling tycoons ready to fund another bash at it next summer.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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shmmeee said:
The thing for me mate is if I’m honest since we’ve come up we’ve not looked convincing without Vik and Gus. That was fine because we were run on a shoestring. But their sale should have meant we built a proper squad of championship players rather than two PL ones and a bunch of L1. And TBF we have.

Now I want to see us playing with some type of identity and looking convincing. The last couple of games, collapses apart, have been encouraging, but the games sandwiching them are some of the worst I’ve seen us play under Robins.

There’s always been a question mark around his ability at this level without Viveash and cheat code players. Last season I could accept we did a big rebuild and it would take time. This season we’ve ripped up the coaching staff and started again and frankly I can’t see any progression. Our players look unmotivated, confused, and are sniping at each other on the pitch. They don’t generally look like players out of their depth, just set up badly and lacking in leadership. All of which has to come down to Robins and his staff.

I’m willing to give him time, but I need to see a consistent upwards trajectory from the abject shite we’ve seen so far. Spurs was a different sort of performance and one no player at this level needs motivation for. Oxford was frankly a fluke. Watford was promising. And that alone is why I’m not calling for his head. But I have an awfully long way to go to be convinced this set up is getting the best out of this group of players.
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There's not always been a question mark about his ability at this level without viveash .

Not sure where you've got that from
 

Matt smith

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Every season Stoke spend a ton on their squad and tell themselves this will be the year that's different from all the ones before. Then the manager is sacked some point early on and they finish in the bottom half.

That's looking like being CCFC this year, but unlike Stoke we don't have gambling tycoons ready to fund another bash at it next summer.
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Strap in @Brighton Sky Blue

The bed wetter talk is frankly nonsense
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Sep 21, 2024
  • #1,058
Saddlebrains said:
You don't want to hear what I've been told this evening i assure you
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Tough result to take.

The lads are hurting as much as the fans.

But we go again!

Is my guess.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 21, 2024
  • #1,059
Matt smith said:
Strap in @Brighton Sky Blue

The bed wetter talk is frankly nonsense
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Let's see how things look on here next Saturday after Leeds' 5th goal
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 21, 2024
  • #1,060
Evo1883 said:
Our form was pretty good in the league until April 6th .
We then played 10 games in 34 days including the semi final
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I've said repeatedly on here, tagging on last seasons results is bollocks, whether they're good or bad.
Let's stick to analysing what's gone on this season,which let's face it, is grim enough.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Let's see how things look on here next Saturday after Leeds' 5th goal
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The fact you two have got into bed with eachother on this should make you think @Brighton Sky Blue , matt does this every month every season
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 21, 2024
  • #1,062
Evo1883 said:
Our form going into April where we then played 10 games in 34 days View attachment 38573
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Dennis Lawrence: Coventry City first-team coach leaving to join MLS side Minnesota United - BBC Sport

Coventry City first-team coach Dennis Lawrence is leaving the club to join Major League Soccer side Minnesota United.
www.bbc.co.uk

Check the date.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 21, 2024
  • #1,063
SlowerThanPlatt said:
King’s not exactly shown he’s a dab hand in replacing key staff, be fascinating to see what avenue he’d go down
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This TBF is the other reason I’m not full Robins out yet.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Sep 21, 2024
  • #1,064
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Let's see how things look on here next Saturday after Leeds' 5th goal
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Mattress will be soaked by 3:02
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2024
  • #1,065
shmmeee said:

Dennis Lawrence: Coventry City first-team coach leaving to join MLS side Minnesota United - BBC Sport

Coventry City first-team coach Dennis Lawrence is leaving the club to join Major League Soccer side Minnesota United.
www.bbc.co.uk

Check the date.
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Right , we won 2 of the next 3 after he left and were desperately unlucky to lose an fa cup semi final on penalties .

I wasn't happy with how our form dropped with a busy schedule and small squad last season but many including yourself at the time suggested it was understandable with such a small squad and the load .


Now it's different ?
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Right let’s be crystal clear here. The hypothesis is that Lawrence and particularly Viveash were heavily responsible for our performances and the team that’s replaced them starting from last March isn’t up to scratch.

That’s why taking last seasons results matters. Because it shows the cut off clearly. It’s also why it’s not just calling for change after five games.
 
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SkyBluePower

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  • Sep 21, 2024
  • #1,067
Evo1883 said:
We do now , bit shit to say that then not say
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Doug not at the game today, probably just as well.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Evo1883 said:
Right , we won 2 of the next 3 after he left and were desperately unlucky to lose an fa cup semi final on penalties .

I wasn't happy with how our form dropped with a busy schedule and small squad last season but many including yourself at the time suggested it was understandable with such a small squad and the load .


Now it's different ?
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Nothing changes over night. Old habits stick about for a bit. We also had Viveash. The worry is now we have neither and their replacements aren’t good enough.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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SkyBluePower said:
Doug not at the game today, probably just as well.
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Was he busy looking for a finger nail technician for the players ?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Saddlebrains said:
You don't want to hear what I've been told this evening i assure you
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Evo1883 said:
The fact you two have got into bed with eacjother on this should make you think @Brighton Sky Blue , matt does this every month every season
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Not getting into bed with him, but it's a fact we have three clean sheets in the league all year, a fair chunk of which was under Dennis Lawrence.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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shmmeee said:
Nothing changes over night. Old habits stick about for a bit. We also had Viveash. The worry is now we have neither and their replacements aren’t good enough.
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Ok now that's a different argument , coaching the team and managing the team are different things .

If the new coaches are not good enough them that's something that doug will need to deal with .

We are to believe the players didn't like the stricter methods of adi , now they have it easy ?
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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shmmeee said:
Right let’s be crystal clear here. The hypothesis is that Lawrence and particularly Viveash were heavily responsible for our performances and the team that’s replaced them starting from last March isn’t up to scratch.

That’s why taking last seasons results matters. Because it shows the cut off clearly. It’s also why it’s not just calling for change after five games.
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It's not factoring in the FA Cup run, which clearly took its toll.
I bet if you look back at last seasons slow start no one tags in previous seasons incredible finish to try and make the stats look better.
 
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napolimp

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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shmmeee said:
First game of the season my Dad forgot his ST and the queue was so long we missed a goal. I ended up watching it on my IPTV stream on my phone in the queue.
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Yeah the first game was really bad because loads of ST holders had not received their cards.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not getting into bed with him, but it's a fact we have three clean sheets in the league all year, a fair chunk of which was under Dennis Lawrence.
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The team Lawrence coaches now are terrible , I think fans are scraping the barrel
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Evo1883 said:
The team Lawrence coaches now are terrible , I think fans are scraping the barrel
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Talk us round Evo. What are you seeing this season that gives you hope?
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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shmmeee said:
Right let’s be crystal clear here. The hypothesis is that Lawrence and particularly Viveash were heavily responsible for our performances and the team that’s replaced them starting from last March isn’t up to scratch.

That’s why taking last seasons results matters. Because it shows the cut off clearly. It’s also why it’s not just calling for change after five games.
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The cut of is inconsistent though , it would imply that Dennis Lawrence was Jose mourinho and viveash and Robins were wank .. it's all bollocks
 
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Viktor17

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Right then @Saddlebrains just hit us with it
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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shmmeee said:
Talk us round Evo. What are you seeing this season that gives you hope?
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I think whilst we've put in a couple of poor performances ... we've been unlucky to not be on more points, most teams that struggle genuinely just look poor all the time .. we don't
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Evo1883 said:
The team Lawrence coaches now are terrible , I think fans are scraping the barrel
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Sure, the fact stands though-three clean sheets in the league all year. Under MR that must be much lower than previous years in his tenure.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Evo1883 said:
The cut of is inconsistent though , it would imply that Dennis Lawrence was Jose mourinho and viveash and Robins were wank .. it's all bollocks
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No I don’t think that. I can completely accept the game schedule and squad size and general losing at Wembley deflation played a big part.

I think Viveash was very important though. I can accept he may have made his position untenable, but then it’s on the club to replace him with as good if not better like any staff member.

I think we’ve lost a lot of leadership in both the squad and the backroom staff and not replaced any of it.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sure, the fact stands though-three clean sheets in the league all year. Under MR that must be much lower than previous years in his tenure.
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Well up until last season we played a back 5 pretty much , well wing backs
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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shmmeee said:
No I don’t think that. I can completely accept the game schedule and squad size and general losing at Wembley deflation played a big part.

I think Viveash was very important though. I can accept he may have made his position untenable, but then it’s on the club to replace him with as good if not better like any staff member.

I think we’ve lost a lot of leadership in both the squad and the backroom staff and not replaced any of it.
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I agree we've lost leadership on the pitch but again doug seems unwilling to recruit older heads and Robins is no longer picking his players to recruit , rather just saying yes ok
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 21, 2024
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Evo1883 said:
We do now , bit shit to say that then not say
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Nothing regarding Robins, it's mainly the players.

Few home truths told, certain players (rightly) calling out the bollockless ones, certain coaches basically being told by players that they haven't a fucking clue
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Evo1883 said:
Well up until last season we played a back 5 pretty much , well wing backs
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We conceded a lot of very poor goals in the first few months of last season with a back 5 too. It points to something else being the problem.
 
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