skyblue025
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Me too. Thought I was the only one.
Me too. Thought I was the only one.Hook area.
Just arrived and parking up.
Today showed pretty clearly why the league position is nowhere near that. Stupid goals conceded, attractive but indecisive attacking play and conceding vast swathes of space in midfield.
Yeah, we're not far off are we.Good news is that a CB with experience of organising a defence, and a good defensive coach, could probably sort that out. So in the grand scheme of things not the worst problem to have.
Thought they looked a very average team with a few stand out players. Gus key in both goals, Rak-Sakyi looks premier league level and that Souza in the midfield is head and shoulders their best player, they’ve done well to hold onto him. I think Wilder made the wrong change after the red card by leaving COH on as he was very quiet. Also very surprised how quiet their fans were, I know they are a horrible bunch but Wednesday have much louder fans imo.
Wednesday are always louderThought they looked a very average team with a few stand out players. Gus key in both goals, Rak-Sakyi looks premier league level and that Souza in the midfield is head and shoulders their best player, they’ve done well to hold onto him. I think Wilder made the wrong change after the red card by leaving COH on as he was very quiet. Also very surprised how quiet their fans were, I know they are a horrible bunch but Wednesday have much louder fans imo.
Tbh, I thought that Wilder's decision to hook Hamer and COH was strangeCity started so well yesterday. Dominated. Credit Rhys Carr.
Callum OHare was so poor. On reflection felt sorry for him. His confidence looks totally shot.
WB's primary focus is on defensive duties, but getting forward when possible. Not on attacking duties and getting back when possible. The 3CB's are there to cover and slow down an attack until the WB can get back into the defensive formation. They're not expected to deal with the situation while the WB just stays upfield.No. I think they’re endemic of the defending this season. I’ll have to watch them back but generally speaking wing backs are allowed to go forwards and when they do that’s not out of position no matter what a bunch of SBT posters who only understand 442 and keep calling him a left back say.
I thought OHare was totally ineffective. I do drink a few before the match though & you can't get a standard 4% up the City these days it's all 5% ish !!?Tbh, I thought that Wilder's decision to hook Hamer and COH was strange
Hamer was bossing the game and O'Hare was pressing us quite well when his side was up against it imo
Oh well
Wilder has got them set up to be solid and rely on the quality they've got to get them goals and to be fair it works.Thought they looked a very average team with a few stand out players. Gus key in both goals, Rak-Sakyi looks premier league level and that Souza in the midfield is head and shoulders their best player, they’ve done well to hold onto him. I think Wilder made the wrong change after the red card by leaving COH on as he was very quiet. Also very surprised how quiet their fans were, I know they are a horrible bunch but Wednesday have much louder fans imo.
They didn’t look solid yesterday with 11 men to be honest. A more clinical side would have really hurt themWilder has got them set up to be solid and rely on the quality they've got to get them goals and to be fair it works.
I thought OHare was totally ineffective. I do drink a few before the match though & you can't get a standard 4% up the City these days it's all 5% ish !!?
Some interesting take away from the game
1) the fact that Carr is interim manager ahead of Delaney and Boateng is quite telling. They are former pros and in theory more experienced than he is. Have also seen quotes from the players commenting on Carr‘s level of detail. I hope that he’ll have a place in the new regime.
2) Wilder‘s comments are way off the mark. How can he comment on the effort shown by the players in games he hasn’t even seen? It isn’t lack of effort that has got us here. Our Keeper hasn’t even made a save and we have conceded two goals. To be clear I’m not blaming Collins, our problem is we’re too easy to create chance against, and other teams are far more ruthless in front of goal than we are. It’s strange that an experienced championship manager can see our problems unfold right in front of him, yet choose to invent other ones from matches he hasn’t seen.
2 draws against the top 2 under Robins and we'd be hearing its encouraging and we're turning a corner lets be realistic here.Let’s be honest if yesterday was Robins the robins out crew would be wanking themselves silly about slow changes and poor tactics. Yet because it’s not suddenly he’s a tactical genius for playing one up against ten men for half the second half.
If the players weren't putting in effort under Robins you don't see an issue with that?it’s absolutely lack of effort
We played well, it's not always that the opposition are shitThey didn’t look solid yesterday with 11 men to be honest. A more clinical side would have really hurt them
2 draws against the top 2 under Robins and we'd be hearing its encouraging and we're turning a corner lets be realistic here.
Wilder is and always has been a twatSome interesting take away from the game
1) the fact that Carr is interim manager ahead of Delaney and Boateng is quite telling. They are former pros and in theory more experienced than he is. Have also seen quotes from the players commenting on Carr‘s level of detail. I hope that he’ll have a place in the new regime.
2) Wilder‘s comments are way off the mark. How can he comment on the effort shown by the players in games he hasn’t even seen? It isn’t lack of effort that has got us here. Our Keeper hasn’t even made a save and we have conceded two goals. To be clear I’m not blaming Collins, our problem is we’re too easy to create chance against, and other teams are far more ruthless in front of goal than we are. It’s strange that an experienced championship manager can see our problems unfold right in front of him, yet choose to invent other ones from matches he hasn’t seen.
He weren't turning a corner ffs. The Derby game summed it all up. Totally embarrassing.Take everything else out and draws against these two is par for the course really. Burnley id have expected is to lose.
We were turning a corner TBF. I know you don’t want to believe that. I think the last two were both there for the win if we hadn’t gifted them a head start or could put the pressure on better. We’ve had a bad start and it’s made people think we’re a bad side but listen to other managers and we aren’t seen as a bottom three side like the fans see us.
Seen the opposite too havnt we? People saying we slow and laborious when would have said we played well and unlucky under robinsLet’s be honest if yesterday was Robins the robins out crew would be wanking themselves silly about slow changes and poor tactics. Yet because it’s not suddenly he’s a tactical genius for playing one up against ten men for half the second half.
We played well, it's not always that the opposition are shit
He weren't turning a corner ffs. The Derby game summed it all up. Totally embarrassing.
Yeh wasn't just Derby though was it...I mean the form table says otherwise. If you think you won’t see another performance like Derby from these players I think you’re going to be disappointed.
Yeh wasn't just Derby though was it...
The Derby game where you said you wanted him sacked no less
Tbh, I thought that Wilder's decision to hook Hamer and COH was strange
Hamer was bossing the game and O'Hare was pressing us quite well when his side was up against it imo
Oh well
End of the day the season is the form table, we were joint third bottom averaging a point a game and 1 or 2 games aside had been a totally depressing watch. From a pretty favorable set of fixtures might I add.Derby we were shocking. We were shocking a few times. But we’d also had two good games before Derby. And progress isn’t linear.
And if you’d told me during Derby the alternative was Wank Frampard then I’d have kept my fucking mouth shut!
End of the day the season is the form table, we were joint third bottom averaging a point a game and 1 or 2 games aside had been a totally depressing watch. From a pretty favorable set of fixtures might I add.
Take everything else out and draws against these two is par for the course really. Burnley id have expected is to lose.
We were turning a corner TBF. I know you don’t want to believe that. I think the last two were both there for the win if we hadn’t gifted them a head start or could put the pressure on better. We’ve had a bad start and it’s made people think we’re a bad side but listen to other managers and we aren’t seen as a bottom three side like the fans see us.
100% should have got one yesterday, but we really struggled to break down the 10 men.To be honest, even though my views on recent events align with yours more than a lot of other posters on here, (and also seem to align with actual people I meet in real life!), I can't look at the last 2 results as anything other than really good results and am a bit disappointed not to have got a winner in at least one of them.
To be honest, even though my views on recent events align with yours more than a lot of other posters on here, (and also seem to align with actual people I meet in real life!), I can't look at the last 2 results as anything other than really good results and am a bit disappointed not to have got a winner in at least one of them.
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