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Match Thread Coventry City - Rotherham United FC Match Thread - Tuesday 5th Mar (2 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #141
shmmeee said:
Lol Hamer gets sent off twice in a season and it’s years of “he’s a liability, terrible discipline issues” Kitching does it andbita “an overstatement”

What we spent shouldn’t matter. Hopefully he’ll give his head a wobble and get in line but a disruptive presence in the dressing room costs the fees of all others who will underperform too.
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I’m on about the first one especially. Don’t think he’s the one to blame there
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #142
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m on about the first one especially. Don’t think he’s the one to blame there
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He is. Should have just walked off, or fallen to the ground and milked it. No need to go around putting your head on people in retaliation after the whistle has gone. Silly behaviour.

Point is he’s hardly set the world alight and needs to wind his neck in at work. Also who the fuck is Collins that he needs his mate to stick up for him at work? Fanny.

Honestly indont think there’s a player id lose any sleep over if we shipped them off in the summer. Character and quality missing all over.
 

TomRad85

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #143
If I was Collins I'd challenge being dropped for Ben Wilson.

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PVA

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #144
shmmeee said:
Someone posted up a stats comparison with MvE Bidwell and Dasilva. The only thing Bidwell was far superior on was heading. Everything else was about the same or (shot creating actions/assists) Dasilva was slightly better.
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Dasilva is miles ahead on shot creating actions, in fact he's one of the best in the division.

They're similar on tackles and blocks, but Bidwell better on the other defensive stats



 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #145
TomRad85 said:
If I was Collins I'd challenge being dropped for Ben Wilson.

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I would simply be better at football than Ben Wilson.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #146
PVA said:
Dasilva is miles ahead on shot creating actions, in fact he's one of the best in the division.

They're similar on tackles and blocks, but Bidwell better on the other defensive stats



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Ah this wasn’t the one I saw but the one I did was both vs MvE for some reason so hard to directly compare. Thanks.
So basically Dasilva is a better wingback Bidwell a better fullback seems to be what the stats say.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #147
shmmeee said:
I would simply be better at football than Ben Wilson.
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He is

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shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #148
TomRad85 said:
He is

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And yet keeps failing to get in and stay in ahead of him. He also couldn’t keep his place in L1. There’s clearly something up.
 

TomRad85

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #149
If there's more to it, I think Wilson is a pretty shitty hill for Robins to die on tbh. He's come back in and fucked our season almost immediately.

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Mcbean

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #150
shmmeee said:
Someone posted up a stats comparison with MvE Bidwell and Dasilva. The only thing Bidwell was far superior on was heading. Everything else was about the same or (shot creating actions/assists) Dasilva was slightly better.
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But he’s vertically challenged - there’s a limit to how far he can jump to head the ball - big hoofs from the back with a couple of fast wingbacks he’s fecked - he’s better up the field with someone behind him
 

TomRad85

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #151
shmmeee said:
And yet keeps failing to get in and stay in ahead of him.
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For no reason. Hence challenging. Fair play to him, he's a far better keeper, everyone knows it so no problem with him saying so.

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shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #152
TomRad85 said:
For no reason. Hence challenging. Fair play to him, he's a far better keeper, everyone knows it so no problem with him saying so.

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Just weird. We never randomly dropped Vik got Tavares did we? Or Fadz for Panzo. So assuming you don’t subscribe to the “Robins has a brain parasite” theory there must be a reason the Barnsley Boys keep getting dropped.
 

MalcSB

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #153
shepardo01 said:
@Saddlebrains - this seems to be going round re Collins/Kitching
Anything in this? (Yes, I know it's source is twitter...)
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Based in that, we should have kept Corey Addai.
 
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SkyBlueGuy

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #154
Mcbean said:
But he’s vertically challenged - there’s a limit to how far he can jump to head the ball - big hoofs from the back with a couple of fast wingbacks he’s fecked - he’s better up the field with someone behind him
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This has clearly been identified as a weak link by opposition teams too. See the Preston game as an example. First thing they did was lump the ball into that corner and it lead to a goal almost straight away. I was one who thought Dasilva looked good at the start of the season, but right now I would be preferring Bidwell. Aside from anything else Dasilva has been caught out too many times trying to do fancy skills in/ on the edge of our box and lost the ball. At least one of those lead directly to a goal.
 

Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #155
1-0 Wright to score
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #156
I’m not sure full backs have to be towering man mountains, MvE wins about as many headers as Dasilva, but they do have to be able to challenge and stop crosses and stick with their man.

We’ve always allowed oppo wingers lots of space, Bidwell less so and MvE has his pace to get him back where he needs to be. Feels like Dasilva has neither the pace nor the positioning to do what’s asked of him defensively. But then in a five Binks should be coming across to cover.
 

edgy

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #157
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
1-0 Wright to score
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Sounds boring. Might not bother.
 

Gibbo

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #158
higgs said:
He offers fuck all whoever recommended him hadn't watched him play very often he never takes his man on out wide and swings in a cross he is an accident waiting to happen all the time he's so predictable passing the ball inside or backwards

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Da Silva is Brandon Mason standard
 

Chris1987

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #159
shmmeee said:
Lol Hamer gets sent off twice in a season and it’s years of “he’s a liability, terrible discipline issues” Kitching does it andbita “an overstatement”

What we spent shouldn’t matter. Hopefully he’ll give his head a wobble and get in line but a disruptive presence in the dressing room costs the fees of all others who will underperform too.
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How do we definitively know that he's a disruptive presence in the dressing room ? We don't, it's pure speculation.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #160
Gibbo said:
Da Silva is Brandon Mason standard
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I thought Brandon Mason was good and am surprised that his career hasn't gone better. He was unlucky that we had McCallum.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #161
Chris1987 said:
How do we definitively know that he's a disruptive presence in the dressing room ? We don't, it's pure speculation.
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Hence the “big if” in my previous reply. But if people are defending him on the assumption it happened I can criticise him on the assumption it happened. I assume both of us would accept if it didn’t happen it’s a moot point. I’ve just never got time for this shit and it’s never from players who are performing. See Godden the last couple of seasons too. Far more bothered about underperforming players moaning than decent players giving it the old I love the club then going to Sheff Utd for example. You earn your voice and for me none of the new players have yet. Shut up and listen to the man who has achieved more than any of you and has a record of making players better.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #162
SkyBlueGuy said:
This has clearly been identified as a weak link by opposition teams too. See the Preston game as an example. First thing they did was lump the ball into that corner and it lead to a goal almost straight away. I was one who thought Dasilva looked good at the start of the season, but right now I would be preferring Bidwell. Aside from anything else Dasilva has been caught out too many times trying to do fancy skills in/ on the edge of our box and lost the ball. At least one of those lead directly to a goal.
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I thought Dasilva was good at the beginning but he's been pretty disappointing since. The problem is Bidwell hasn't been much better this season. We need to strengthen in this area over the summer but this could be difficult with two left backs already under contract.
 
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CovLad94

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #163
If we don't win tonight it's clear something has disrupted the harmony and balance in the squad, we should comfortably beat these given their track record and injury problems.
Wright and O'Hare to score.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #164
Deleted member 9744 said:
I thought Dasilva was good at the beginning but he's been pretty disappointing since. The problem is Bidwell hasn't been much better this season. We need to strengthen in this area over the summer but this could be difficult with two left backs already under contract.
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It’s gonna be a case of whoever we get interest in goes I reckon. Despite the cries on here there’s really not that much between them in the round.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #165
shmmeee said:
It’s gonna be a case of whoever we get interest in goes I reckon. Despite the cries on here there’s really not that much between them in the round.
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I am not sure either would attract much interest though. Bidwell probably more so but he might want to run his contract down to get a better contract the year after. Unless he improves the four year contract to Dasilva looks wasteful on what we have seen so far.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #166
Deleted member 9744 said:
I am not sure either would attract much interest though. Bidwell probably more so but he might want to run his contract down to get a better contract the year after. Unless he improves the four year contract to Dasilva looks wasteful on what we have seen so far.
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Never say never. We turned a profit on Garry Borrowdale.
 
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rexo87

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #167
Desperate for a leader in there. Kelly needs to play the next few in my opinion.

Collins (obviously)

MVE Thomas Kitching Bidwell

Torp Kelly

Palmer Ohare Wright

Simms

That should be plenty good enough


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Bertola

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #168
Got to go back to 4-2-3-1. It probably means Simms wide right and Godden up top, but thats the formation which has got the best out of us all season
 

covcity4life

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #169
Saddlebrains said:
Ive not heard anything about any fall out

Although Bidwell and Kitching were originslky starting until about 3 hours before the game so something chnaged
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You compared Collins to Ben Stevenson?
 

covcity4life

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #170
shmmeee said:
He is. Should have just walked off, or fallen to the ground and milked it. No need to go around putting your head on people in retaliation after the whistle has gone. Silly behaviour.

Point is he’s hardly set the world alight and needs to wind his neck in at work. Also who the fuck is Collins that he needs his mate to stick up for him at work? Fanny.

Honestly indont think there’s a player id lose any sleep over if we shipped them off in the summer. Character and quality missing all over.
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You don't even know if they argued yet. Why get angry at them? Lol
 

AOM

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #171
This has got 1-1 written all over it.
Lost their last 7, so would be typical Coventry to give them something.
If Rotherham were on a 7 game winning run though, it's usually the type of game we'd win
 
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Matt smith

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #172
AOM said:
This has got 1-1 written all over it.
Lost their last 7, so would be typical Coventry to give them something.
If Rotherham were on a 7 game winning run though, it's usually the type of game we'd win
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Yeah for that reason I think we’ll lose

0-1

obviously their run is going to end against us, we’re playing poor too
 
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Nick

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #173
Would think if they have Eaves up front they would be tempted to go direct.

Not a game for DaSilva.
 

Chris1987

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #174
Nick said:
Would think if they have Eaves up front they would be tempted to go direct.

Not a game for DaSilva.
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Not sure that any game is one for JDS personally. I think that he causes more problems than he solves unfortunately
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #175
covcity4life said:
You compared Collins to Ben Stevenson?
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Regarding that game correct. Haven't heard about a fall out though
 
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