So you wind up a racist by chucking deeply racist slurs at them?I’m not justifying anything.
I’ll put it a different way. Words can sometimes hurt people. They shouldn’t but some people are more thin skinned than others and tend to react.
So if you wanted to wind up a racist Scouser, wouldn’t that slur upset him more? The chant “I’d rather be a Londoner than a Scouse” just wouldn’t work on these racists. The words are designed to hurt people. Surely if you were a Scouser and not a racist, then the chant wouldn’t hurt you in the slightest?
What did the actual taking of the knee achieve in the end, because it did eventually stop? If it mattered so much to so many people (and players) why is it still not in use in football today? In the link I posted, even John Barnes said at the time that the gesture was pointless. Racism still continues around the world, so all it did was highlight the death of a black man in the US and then went worldwide.
Why did it take this one killing of George Floyd to stir up this anger, when thousands of ethnic minorities have been indiscriminately killed by racist police in the US, ever since it was legal (or illegal) to have a gun? Why didn’t Americans rise up beforehand and defend those dead minorities every time someone was unlawfully killed because of the colour of their skin?
I’m not trying to prove I’m right by saying what I said about the misdemeanours of the BLM party. It’s all there, and has been well documented. If you choose not to believe it, that is your right, but it seems to me that stealing money for personal gain and not giving it to the people you represent, is wrong. And yes, there has always been politics in sport, but it’s usually been at board level of institutions like FIFA, the EUFA or the IOC - not out in front on a football pitch or athletic arena.
I used the analogy of what the BBC (a supposedly impartial organisation) did to Trump in relation to what they did to us in the Panorama documentary - changing stuff to make someone look bad. It’s irrelevant whether you like/dislike Trump and what he stands for, it’s the principle of altering the facts to suit someone else’s (the BBC) editorial needs which is wrong.
Just for context however, it will still be circa 26k+ - which is mental where we have come from, midweek January against less glamorous side, not a bad place to be.Looking at the amount of blue dots this could be heading for the lowest attendance of the season. Hopefully it will pick up today. Tickets are dirt cheap for this one.
Looking at the amount of blue dots this could be heading for the lowest attendance of the season. Hopefully it will pick up today. Tickets are dirt cheap for this one.
Perhaps David would like to tell our Millwall friend all about the other political group he supports. Im sure he will be very welcomingNot stopping you from going to arena park.
We play them on Tuesday. Best rearrange whatever activism shit you are pretending to be into this week.
I'd be happy if Frank doesn't let JDS, MVE get wildly forward as much. Them getting so stranded out of position is killing us defensively.
It's not like we have pace in central midfield or central defence to really cover is it? In fact the lack of pace of Torp, Grimes, Eccles, Kitchin, Lati is a weakness already without putting it out there to be easily exploited.
It'll be much more than that, wasn't saying it was shit. It'll be 28K plus whatever Millwall bring I'd have thought.Just for context however, it will still be circa 26k+ - which is mental where we have come from, midweek January against less glamorous side, not a bad place to be.
BLM wasn't a party it was an anti racist movement formed as a last straw after yet another black man had been murdered by police.What did the actual taking of the knee achieve in the end, because it did eventually stop? If it mattered so much to so many people (and players) why is it still not in use in football today? In the link I posted, even John Barnes said at the time that the gesture was pointless. Racism still continues around the world, so all it did was highlight the death of a black man in the US and then went worldwide.
Why did it take this one killing of George Floyd to stir up this anger, when thousands of ethnic minorities have been indiscriminately killed by racist police in the US, ever since it was legal (or illegal) to have a gun? Why didn’t Americans rise up beforehand and defend those dead minorities every time someone was unlawfully killed because of the colour of their skin?
I’m not trying to prove I’m right by saying what I said about the misdemeanours of the BLM party. It’s all there, and has been well documented. If you choose not to believe it, that is your right, but it seems to me that stealing money for personal gain and not giving it to the people you represent, is wrong. And yes, there has always been politics in sport, but it’s usually been at board level of institutions like FIFA, the EUFA or the IOC - not out in front on a football pitch or athletic arena.
I used the analogy of what the BBC (a supposedly impartial organisation) did to Trump in relation to what they did to us in the Panorama documentary - changing stuff to make someone look bad. It’s irrelevant whether you like/dislike Trump and what he stands for, it’s the principle of altering the facts to suit someone else’s (the BBC) editorial needs which is wrong.
Wolfie , in my opinion, has to come in & was very surprised yesterday, when not starting.
He hasn’t been the main player, that we were all hoping he would be , but Lat’s worries me & we can’t afford a blip now .
it’s pretty random how we are supposed to forget the first half happened.
We were dominated. Lati was awful along with the rest of the back for. He doesn’t have the pace or presence to be a centre half unless needed as an emergency.
I don't think Lati has it in him to do back to back good performances in such a short time. He often delivers one, raises expectations and then bombs. I look forward to being surprisedI think Lati was a tactical inclusion on Saturday. But may have done enough to keep his place.
I don't think Lati has it in him to do back to back good performances in such a short time. He often delivers one, raises expectations and them bombs. I look forward to being surprised
Agree with this. The league have worked out that waiting for our attacks to break down and catching MVE/JDS out of position, we are vulnerable.
And that’s precisely the point of my argument. The black player celebrating his goal by taking the knee could have inflamed the situation and caused trouble. Another reason why sport and politics should be kept separate - there are too many people who get wound up by sport and politics separately - put them together and it can become a powder keg waiting to explode.
Thankfully our fans had the sense to just boo him again.
There is massive financial discrepancy in the money raised by Captain Tom. Doesn't mean what he was trying to do wasn't a worthy cause or we should boo him does it?What did the actual taking of the knee achieve in the end, because it did eventually stop? If it mattered so much to so many people (and players) why is it still not in use in football today? In the link I posted, even John Barnes said at the time that the gesture was pointless. Racism still continues around the world, so all it did was highlight the death of a black man in the US and then went worldwide.
Why did it take this one killing of George Floyd to stir up this anger, when thousands of ethnic minorities have been indiscriminately killed by racist police in the US, ever since it was legal (or illegal) to have a gun? Why didn’t Americans rise up beforehand and defend those dead minorities every time someone was unlawfully killed because of the colour of their skin?
I’m not trying to prove I’m right by saying what I said about the misdemeanours of the BLM party. It’s all there, and has been well documented. If you choose not to believe it, that is your right, but it seems to me that stealing money for personal gain and not giving it to the people you represent, is wrong. And yes, there has always been politics in sport, but it’s usually been at board level of institutions like FIFA, the EUFA or the IOC - not out in front on a football pitch or athletic arena.
I used the analogy of what the BBC (a supposedly impartial organisation) did to Trump in relation to what they did to us in the Panorama documentary - changing stuff to make someone look bad. It’s irrelevant whether you like/dislike Trump and what he stands for, it’s the principle of altering the facts to suit someone else’s (the BBC) editorial needs which is wrong.
He’d been sprinting around the pitch for about 8 minsGrimes was visibly swaying from exhaustion during the first half - little worrying
Jesus mate. Just stop.
Agreed. Saturday felt a bit more pressurised after their win on Friday. Hopefully we can return the favour midweek.Win puts the pressure on Boro as we would be 9pts ahead by the time they play Stoke the following day, dropping points obvs opens the door
Every season we hear Millwall fans complaining that their reputation isn't justified or complaining about a large police presence at their games. Yet we regularly also hear about trouble involving Millwall.What helped to tarnish my club was the 1977 Panorama documentary in which we were stitched up by the BBC in how they portrayed us!
I really like Millwall as a club...they are a well run proper community club with shit loads of history. But bless them, they do seem to attract the idiots. Give me Millwall over most other London clubs any day of the week.Also, why do you hate Charlton so much?
Is it because they are like the really nice popular kid at school who’s nice to everyone, not racist, and makes a bit of an effort so is liked for good reason, and you are… well, Millwall?
Having been to the old Cold Blow Lane i can testify that the new den is a piece of cake in comparisonCan only speak from experience and say I have never had issues at Millwall and have only ever enjoyed our trips there - Mostly cause London away days are the best and it has been a fairly happy hunting ground for us in recent years
You can tell it would be ferocious when they get themselves motivated though for either a big game or a local derby and it is a place you would not wanna be
As much as id take a 1-0, my nerves cantI am not thinking pumping at all.
Hard fought, 1 nil win.
That'll do, donkey.
It's easy when you really want to blame the defenders for a whole XI and manager issue.The back four were exposed by Leicester's tactical dominance in midfield.
It is always a bit easy and dumb just to blame defenders when your whole midfield isn't working.
Dont we have a politics thread for this shit ?There is massive financial discrepancy in the money raised by Captain Tom. Doesn't mean what he was trying to do wasn't a worthy cause or we should boo him does it?
As for making Trump look bad, it's not like they completely made it up. He said those words. Trump totally makes stuff up numerous times a day - why not pick up on that? We had quite a debate on here about it and for most the consensus was "it was stupid, they shouldn't have done it, they should be reprimanded, but Trump was inciting violence and there was no need to edit it in such a way that made it look even more blatant." They didn't make Trump look bad, Trump made himself look bad by telling people to fight like hell.
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