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Match Thread Coventry City - Ipswich Town [FA] Match Thread - Saturday 8th Feb (10 Viewers)

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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,261
clint van damme said:
The serious business starts Tuesday, 6 game run that will define our season
Today and Wednesday just a distraction.
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exactly this - absolutely no real bother today other than it shows we have very little strength in depth, and Latibeaudiere is not a RWB

it must be very difficult being as up and down as some of you guys
 
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OldBedrocker

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,262
skybluecam said:
They’ve all lost fantastic point you make there
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Have they?
Millwall beat Leeds
Burnley beat Soton
Birmingham Newcastle is currently 2-2
And even the ones who lost have made a fist of it not just rolled over and had their belly’s tickled
 
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OldBedrocker

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,263
lord_garrincha said:
What's today's result got to do with another set of results?
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It’s the performance not the result
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,264
OldBedrocker said:
It’s the performance not the result
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Tying yourself in knots there.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,265
skybluecam said:
They’ve all lost fantastic point you make there
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How can you miss such a basic point so often? It has to be trolling at this stage.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,266
David O'Day said:
We played a weakened time against a pl squad mate

Sent from my SM-G991B using Tapatalk
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A PL squad is a bit of a stretch...
 

Para1140

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,267
Serious question but were Ipswich anything special. Leeds were a far better team than them, other than their finishing from our gifted mistakes they looked like a team from the championship and if we had plyed a full strength side or even a decent first 11 we would have beat them.
if thats how they play every week can see why we will probably be playing them next season
 
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quinn1971

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,268
Tommo1993 said:
Closest it’s gonna get to KO

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Ipswich took kick and this is just seconds later. Look how high our back line is already. Mental.
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Not quite sure you can call it a line either, can imagine the team talk “ keep it tight for the first 10” you can’t play that high with players my gran could probably out pace
 
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fingers_crossed

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,269
Sick Boy said:
I’m pretty sure the 2 players who combined for their 4th goal have a combined transfer value not far off £40m. You can claim real resources don’t make a difference but they clearly do.
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Nah…Lati and Dovin aren’t worth that much
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,270
Look if we're honest the last 2 games just show how far off the level we are

It's all well and good Doug saying about the 3 play offs in 5 years plan (which btw is 3 in 3 from next season), and he's doing his best, but we are nowhere near the level required to get out of this league

Are we a decent side? Yes. Are we good enough to go up even if we make play offs? Absolutely not, we would get eaten alive every week

Only 2 ways you get out of the Championship, a once in a generation season (Ipswich, Blackpool, Hull, Luton and ALMOST us)

Or you have Parachute money / silly amounts of money Wolves promotion season style.

The longer it goes on the more it seems the PO Final was THE chance, and we didn't take it

Don't get me wrong, it can be done, look at Sunderland this season, flying. But that is more the exception than the norm
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,271
skybluecam said:
If we hadn’t made mistakes we probably still lose both. Disregarding the mistakes Leeds were by far the better team and Ipswich had the better of the game today.

You don’t get any points for a spirited loss.
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Leeds maybe, today was a gift for Ipswich.

On the ball even, off the ball less so.

By the end of the game I'd have cheered a two footer and a red card, it was pathetic.

Look at Brum v Newcastle. That's a real quality gap, we should at least be able to battle.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,272
Nuskyblue said:
Leeds maybe, today was a gift for Ipswich.

On the ball even, off the ball less so.

By the end of the game I'd have cheered a two footer and a red card, it was pathetic.

Look at Brum v Newcastle. That's a real quality gap, we should at least be able to battle.
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Birmingham spending is comparable to Newcastle tbf 🫣
 
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OldBedrocker

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,273
lord_garrincha said:
Tying yourself in knots there.
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Really not. My point was they gave them a game. We never did
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,274
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
exactly this - absolutely no real bother today other than it shows we have very little strength in depth, and Latibeaudiere is not a RWB

it must be very difficult being as up and down as some of you guys
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Lats runs like Shamus of Family guy. Must be that award wining ding giving him jip!
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,275
pusbccfc said:
Birmingham spending is comparable to Newcastle tbf 🫣
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Behave
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,276
pusbccfc said:
Birmingham spending is comparable to Newcastle tbf 🫣
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Then so is ours!

Average over 5 seasons its not even close.

Newcastle have an England international as a back up up top. Kudos Cal btw
 
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ptr

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,277
larry_david said:
Obikwu scored for Grimsby again
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Can’t remember the last time we had a player go out and loan and actually be successful.

Possibly Eccles with Gillingham.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,278
Nuskyblue said:
Then so is ours!

Average over 5 seasons its not even close.

Newcastle have an England international as a back up up top. Kudos Cal btw
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Birmingham have a net spend of €30m this season.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,279
Saddlebrains said:
Look if we're honest the last 2 games just show how far off the level we are

It's all well and good Doug saying about the 3 play offs in 5 years plan (which btw is 3 in 3 from next season), and he's doing his best, but we are nowhere near the level required to get out of this league

Are we a decent side? Yes. Are we good enough to go up even if we make play offs? Absolutely not, we would get eaten alive every week

Only 2 ways you get out of the Championship, a once in a generation season (Ipswich, Blackpool, Hull, Luton and ALMOST us)

Or you have Parachute money / silly amounts of money Wolves promotion season style.

The longer it goes on the more it seems the PO Final was THE chance, and we didn't take it

Don't get me wrong, it can be done, look at Sunderland this season, flying. But that is more the exception than the norm
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Not sure I follow. If we make and win the playoffs then it's academic if we are 'good enough' to go up. The playoffs are routinely made up of multiple teams that finished outside the top 6 the previous season. The goal is to be in the mix every year, and it doesn't seem like we're a million miles off that.
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,280
OldBedrocker said:
Really not. My point was they gave them a game. We never did
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Again... what difference does other team's performances make?

I'm not defending them... I thought the set up at kick off & general tactics were bizarre.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,281
lord_garrincha said:
Again... what difference does other team's performances make?

I'm not defending them... I thought the set up at kick off & general tactics were bizarre.
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Because people in this thread keep saying we can’t expect a good performance against teams above us in the pyramid.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,282
I’d imagine Birmingham will be good odds to get promotion next year
 
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quinn1971

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,283
Saddlebrains said:
Look if we're honest the last 2 games just show how far off the level we are

It's all well and good Doug saying about the 3 play offs in 5 years plan (which btw is 3 in 3 from next season), and he's doing his best, but we are nowhere near the level required to get out of this league

Are we a decent side? Yes. Are we good enough to go up even if we make play offs? Absolutely not, we would get eaten alive every week

Only 2 ways you get out of the Championship, a once in a generation season (Ipswich, Blackpool, Hull, Luton and ALMOST us)

Or you have Parachute money / silly amounts of money Wolves promotion season style.

The longer it goes on the more it seems the PO Final was THE chance, and we didn't take it

Don't get me wrong, it can be done, look at Sunderland this season, flying. But that is more the exception than the norm
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grimes signed because of the “ plan “ we’ve got, Lampards here because he must of been told he’ll get what he needs, think we” ll be so much stronger next season and hopefully it’ll be the first season where we don’t have any issues, still think we’ll come up,short this season but we’ll be set up good for next season, we’ll always be after the 4th 5th or 6th spot like you say, Sunderland haven’t gone mad but that’s taken them 2 seasons to put that team together, still don’t get why we don’t have loans, could be the difference ?
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,284
Saddlebrains said:
Look if we're honest the last 2 games just show how far off the level we are

It's all well and good Doug saying about the 3 play offs in 5 years plan (which btw is 3 in 3 from next season), and he's doing his best, but we are nowhere near the level required to get out of this league

Are we a decent side? Yes. Are we good enough to go up even if we make play offs? Absolutely not, we would get eaten alive every week

Only 2 ways you get out of the Championship, a once in a generation season (Ipswich, Blackpool, Hull, Luton and ALMOST us)

Or you have Parachute money / silly amounts of money Wolves promotion season style.

The longer it goes on the more it seems the PO Final was THE chance, and we didn't take it

Don't get me wrong, it can be done, look at Sunderland this season, flying. But that is more the exception than the norm
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Not to be pedantic to the overall point but doesn’t he include the playoff final as one of these seasons. So it would be 2 in 3.

Anyway it’s a very difficult league as we all know. Do think with Mark and Adi it would have been done. Hard to see it now but do feel we’ll make a go of the top six
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,285
shmmeee said:
Because people in this thread keep saying we can’t expect a good performance against teams above us in the pyramid.
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I must have dreamt that Saturday when I went to Wolves... Then again, recency bias!
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,286
Ccfcisparks said:
I’d imagine Birmingham will be good odds to get promotion next year
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100%. Unfortunately.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Feb 8, 2025
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Sky Blue Goblin said:
Not to be pedantic to the overall point but doesn’t he include the playoff final as one of these seasons. So it would be 2 in 3.

Anyway it’s a very difficult league as we all know. Do think with Mark and Adi it would have been done. Hard to see it now but do feel we’ll make a go of the top six
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just hope Lampard gets the funds that robins did, just hope that wasn’t our best chance of a decent budget and we’ve blown it on this squad, look at who we’ve just signed for 3 million, binks and Thomas cost more or less that ? We’ve wasted millions
 
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quinn1971

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  • Feb 8, 2025
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lord_garrincha said:
I must have dreamt that Saturday when I went to Wolves... Then again, recency bias!
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Not taking nothing away but wolves were missing a few
 
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OldBedrocker

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,289
lord_garrincha said:
Again... what difference does other team's performances make?

I'm not defending them... I thought the set up at kick off & general tactics were bizarre.
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The point is they tried to win the games. With that selection and formation we gave up before a ball was kicked
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,290
quinn1971 said:
j

just hope Lampard gets the funds that robins did, just hope that wasn’t our best chance of a decent budget and we’ve blown it on this squad, look at who we’ve just signed for 3 million, binks and Thomas cost more or less that ? We’ve wasted millions
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2 22 year olds for the cost of one 29 year old (less I think Thomas £2m and Binks £1.3M) isn’t crazy. The players we’ve signed have been poor across the board. First touch and general ability on the ball is some of the worst I’ve seen even for the better players. And the ones with good technique (Dasilva and Sakamoto only really) are weak and small and generally can’t impose themselves on the game.
 

TomRad85

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  • Feb 8, 2025
  • #1,291
quinn1971 said:
grimes signed because of the “ plan “ we’ve got, Lampards here because he must of been told he’ll get what he needs, think we” ll be so much stronger next season and hopefully it’ll be the first season where we don’t have any issues, still think we’ll come up,short this season but we’ll be set up good for next season, we’ll always be after the 4th 5th or 6th spot like you say, Sunderland haven’t gone mad but that’s taken them 2 seasons to put that team together, still don’t get why we don’t have loans, could be the difference ?
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Dunno why everyone is losing it. The fact we're still even in with a shout of play offs is a miracle. I said of Lampard I wanted him to get us top half and give me hope for next season again, that goal is going well so far.
We've also seen obvious improvements in certain players, and we've done it all with some very significant injury issues.
Any excuse for a head loss on the internet though.
 
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OldBedrocker

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  • Feb 8, 2025
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lord_garrincha said:
I must have dreamt that Saturday when I went to Wolves... Then again, recency bias!
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Yep we have it a go. Not like to today
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Feb 8, 2025
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OldBedrocker said:
Yep we have it a go. Not like to today
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Fair enough. I see your frustration.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Feb 8, 2025
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shmmeee said:
2 22 year olds for the cost of one 29 year old (less I think Thomas £2m and Binks £1.3M) isn’t crazy. The players we’ve signed have been poor across the board. First touch and general ability on the ball is some of the worst I’ve seen even for the better players. And the ones with good technique (Dasilva and Sakamoto only really) are weak and small and generally can’t impose themselves on the game.
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I meant more about the quality of player and TBH we’re not going to get much more for Thomas and binks when we sell them on, we’ve spent 3 million on one of the best players in the league, hopefully that’s the start of many more, difference is we sold hamer got a few quid and we’ve not been the same since, Sunderland sold probably their best player ( clarke) and theyv’e got better, our recruitment and spendings been shocking
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 8, 2025
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quinn1971 said:
I meant more about the quality of player and TBH we’re not going to get much more for Thomas and binks when we sell them on, we’ve spent 3 million on one of the best players in the league, hopefully that’s the start of many more
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£3.5-4m according to reports, which makes him more comparable to MvE and Simms though they were both significantly younger. Kitching and EMC perhaps. Both a touch more I think but a touch younger too.
 
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