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Coventry City ground share with Coventry RFC at Butts Park Arena could be back on (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Sep 20, 2016
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ceetee

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #211
I suppose we could play Academy games at BPA.
 

oucho

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #212
stupot07 said:
As long as sisu gets shafted who cares about the long term future of thr football club hey?!
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They did the shafting first and most. They deserve what they get. Our eventual new owners will have the chance to start afresh and pick up the pieces. We just need SISU to sell for the recovery to begin.
 

peeler

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #213
oucho said:
They did the shafting first and most. They deserve what they get. Our eventual new owners will have the chance to start afresh and pick up the pieces. We just need SISU to sell for the recovery to begin.
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And any new owners will probably benefit from a large chunk of goodwill from the council.
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #214
oucho said:
They did the shafting first and most. They deserve what they get. Our eventual new owners will have the chance to start afresh and pick up the pieces. We just need SISU to sell for the recovery to begin.
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you're on the wind up, sisu may deserve what's coming but nothing indicates there will be a bright new dawn for the club I'm afraid.
The only thing that will get us out of this is a mega rich owner with no designs on getting a return on the money they invest. Here's hoping!
 

stupot07

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #215
oucho said:
They did the shafting first and most. They deserve what they get. Our eventual new owners will have the chance to start afresh and pick up the pieces. We just need SISU to sell for the recovery to begin.
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There will be little pieces to pick and I doubt the council will give thr club any goodwill, their eggs are all in the rugby basket. They aint interested in the football club.
peeler said:
And any new owners will probably benefit from a large chunk of goodwill from the council.
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peeler

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #216
stupot07 said:
There will be little pieces to pick and I doubt the council will give thr club any goodwill, their eggs are all in the rugby basket. They aint interested in the football club.



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We'll see
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #217
peeler said:
We'll see
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why do you disagree?
 
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martcov

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #218
clint van damme said:
why do you disagree?
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Actually the Council absolutely loved CCFC when they won the cup. A high profile football club carrying the name of the city does far more for the City than just 'Wasps'. I think they would welcome anyone with money and a business plan with open arms. The constant complaint from CCC is that they don't have a business plan from SISU ( just a couple of court cases).
 
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peeler

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #219
clint van damme said:
why do you disagree?
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I think 'martcov' has just answered that for me.
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #220
Nick said:
Where is the kick in the bollocks?
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The bit where RR said "£20m made ready to take CCFC forward" Which was approx 7-8 months before Eastwood joined us. so you can't say it was anything to do with mopping up his shit. The money was promised the day SISU took charge.
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #221
peeler said:
I think 'martcov' has just answered that for me.
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fair enough, don't agree myself but none of us know for sure how other parties will react once sisu have gone.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #222
Grendel said:
No he was talking bollocks - I thought you liked him?
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I actually believe he meant what he said but was reneged by SISU. I remember seeing him sat every home game cringing in his seat. It felt like he was forced to take the flak by Septic and Co. being made to sit there and take shit from supporters. In short, I did like him.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #223
Johnnythespider said:
Now that is a football ground
Can we name one of the stands behind the goal "The west end"

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Not if the ends with the goals are facing North and South, no. Sorry mate.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #224
The Reverend Skyblue said:
We both know they did throw some money at the club when they got here but that went tits up, and that was before the new governing rules of limiting your spending to your income. I know the lower Premier sides get round it by the owner keeps having to put money in, but unfortunately our owners haven't clearly got the money to do it that way, so we are stuck with them unless they can find a buyer to buy something with absolutely no assets.
I'd love it another way but we can only spend what we get through income, and no-one surely can argue that given our owners, so we have to start anew and build something that will increase income so they can put that towards investing on the pitch and a better team.
If we stay at the Ricoh, our sons and daughters who take over from us as fans ,will be facing exactly the same dilemma in 20/30 years, a shit team in a rented stadium with limited income, it wont ever go away .
We can start to build something away from the Ricoh's constraints and begin to grow something for the future to sell on as product that someone see value to it, or stay for the longer course if we get near the promise land.
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So do you think they spent that £20m on players when they got here then?
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #225
So, back onto the BPA or some imaginary new stadium...I'd have one request (on top of the standard monkey-butlers serving beers...). I'd like to see new stadiums getting away from the 'soul-less bowl' design. I get that filling the corners adds to the capacity but it would be nice to have 4 distinctive and different stands.

Carry on....
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #226
Nick said:
Part of the issue when people don't seem to understand we are in league 1. Same when we do undisclosed, same as when we get loans and frees. Some will expect massive fancy stadiums, marquee signings etc.
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and you would seek to tie the club down to that level... Robins & Hill didn't get the club up to the First Division by thinking small.

on the other hand Bryan Richardson had unrealistic expectations and plans which pushed the club into reverse..

someone needs to get a grip and find the right level, which IS NOT LEAGUE ONE!
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #227
Skyblueweeman said:
So, back onto the BPA or some imaginary new stadium...I'd have one request (on top of the standard monkey-butlers serving beers...). I'd like to see new stadiums getting away from the 'soul-less bowl' design. I get that filling the corners adds to the capacity but it would be nice to have 4 distinctive and different stands.

Carry on....
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Funny that one of the few 'new' grounds to not have the bowl is stoke.........and they built it on windy hill......fucking tits
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #228
Bruce the Boot said:
This might explain while he is King Wum .. http://skybluestalk.co.uk.w3snoop.com/
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http://coventryobserver.co.uk.w3snoop.com/ LOL
http://coventrytelegraph.net.w3snoop.com/
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #229
Captain Dart said:
http://coventryobserver.co.uk.w3snoop.com/ LOL
http://coventrytelegraph.net.w3snoop.com/
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God, if true their traffic is pretty shoddy!
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #230
Since SUSI arrived attendances have dropped by 50% at this rate carry on and we would not need to alter BPA .That would suit them with there something for nothing attitude .Everything under them has gone down.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

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  • Sep 21, 2016
  • #231
Skyblueweeman said:
So, back onto the BPA or some imaginary new stadium...I'd have one request (on top of the standard monkey-butlers serving beers...). I'd like to see new stadiums getting away from the 'soul-less bowl' design. I get that filling the corners adds to the capacity but it would be nice to have 4 distinctive and different stands.

Carry on....
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I agree weeman, four steep distinctive stands, there are some great relatively cheap but fantastic German stadiums built recently. Nice and steep so people are on top of the pitch,creates great atmosphere.
 
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ClarkeZ

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #232
Captain Dart said:
and you would seek to tie the club down to that level... Robins & Hill didn't get the club up to the First Division by thinking small.

on the other hand Bryan Richardson had unrealistic expectations and plans which pushed the club into reverse..

someone needs to get a grip and find the right level, which IS NOT LEAGUE ONE!
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No one here wants to reduce us and think small, but we have to be realistic here. Hear me out.

We are a league 1 club. We have owners who don't have money to invest, who aren't going anywhere at least until the end of judicial proceedings. We have been here for years, our attendances, income, expenditure all reflect that.

We all want to "get back to where we belong" in the Premiership but in reality, the only way thats going to happen quickly is with massive investment, probably above the FFP rules.

So where we are now it all comes down to cash, if we went to a deal with the BPA it would take big money to build. Which has to come from somewhere. I DESPERATELY want to see it happen, but long term is a concern. If we can't get permissions to allow expansion and are capped to 15k then it should be a no g0. £30+million to spend for a non-long term solution.
But the RICOH comes with its own issues, not owning it, never being able to make non-footballing profits from it. etc etc. Limits income significantly, therefore limits what can be invested.

Rock ------------ CCFC ------------- Hard place
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #233
Skyblueweeman said:
So, back onto the BPA or some imaginary new stadium...I'd have one request (on top of the standard monkey-butlers serving beers...). I'd like to see new stadiums getting away from the 'soul-less bowl' design. I get that filling the corners adds to the capacity but it would be nice to have 4 distinctive and different stands.

Carry on....
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Disagree completely. Would be basically accepting we are a tinpot lower league club.

The 70s have gone. Get over it.
 
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ceetee

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #234
We are a tinpot lower league club more so now than we used to be.
Get over it
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #235
shmmeee said:
Disagree completely. Would be basically accepting we are a tinpot lower league club.

The 70s have gone. Get over it.
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I didn't say it had to have a capacity of 3,000 did I you sanctimonious plank?!

If you read my post again and CAREFULLY, I said 'BPA OR some imaginary new stadium'. I've underlined and made bold the bit you should take notice off.

And the atmosphere in bowl stadiums isn't as good as the old skool designs. Get over it.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #236
js_lilley said:
We are a league 1 club. We have owners who don't have money to invest, who aren't going anywhere at least until the end of judicial proceedings.
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Exactly why they have to be replaced.
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #237
Skyblueweeman said:
I didn't say it had to have a capacity of 3,000 did I you sanctimonious plank?!

If you read my post again and CAREFULLY, I said 'BPA OR some imaginary new stadium'. I've underlined and made bold the bit you should take notice off.

And the atmosphere in bowl stadiums isn't as good as the old skool designs. Get over it.
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I definitely think we are on for the imaginary new stadium.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #238
Otis said:
I definitely think we are on for the imaginary new stadium.
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Well to be fair, my point can be extended to cover my ass even more...I like 4 stand stadia better than bowls due to distinctiveness and better atmosphere...whether it's CCFC or another club.

I just some sort of light at the end of the tunnel Otis

And do you know what, I'd take us going to the Butts...it would rid us of the shackles of the Ricoh and we can concentrate on taking the club forward without any distractions of ACL, Wasps, Shared Revenues (depending on the contract etc.). Fresh start and crack on.
 

ClarkeZ

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #239
Captain Dart said:
Exactly why they have to be replaced.
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I agree, don't get me wrong I'm not wanting them to stick around.
But reality is that unless someone was to wander in with hundreds of millions and buy the club, SISU won't be doing anything major and definitely wont be leaving until the court case is finally wrapped up. Then things could begin to change if we're lucky.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Sep 22, 2016
  • #240
shmmeee said:
Disagree completely. Would be basically accepting we are a tinpot lower league club.

The 70s have gone. Get over it.
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We just have owners who can't afford to run their business.
The club isn't tin pot, it is been run in s tin pot manner by people with tin pot funds.
 
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