My point being that the fact that 90% haven't been shows that clearly the experience is not a good one.... I haven't been yet.
.....Then again I haven't been to Chernobyl, but I don't need to go to know what it's like.
No, you can't judge the experience if you haven't been can you? It's like me trying to judge a lovely tasting cake competition without actually eating it.
I can't comment on how it is for families as I never took mine though.
The kids always seemed to love it though.
My point being that the fact that 90% haven't been shows that clearly the experience is not a good one.... I haven't been yet.
.....Then again I haven't been to Chernobyl, but I don't need to go to know what it's like.
Your argument would be valid had I not been to grounds like this before. I've been to enough poor grounds and pre season friendlies to know what is in store there. My point is if I did go I would be honest about the experience, I have a feeling that the 1000 hardy souls that still persist with this farce would never be critical of the experience, would they, hell, that would be almost tantamount to admitting that they are fools.
How do you work out its 90%?
I am a Maths genius.
So quote the data - how did you work it out?
Your argument would be valid had I not been to grounds like this before. I've been to enough poor grounds and pre season friendlies to know what is in store there. My point is if I did go I would be honest about the experience, I have a feeling that the 1000 hardy souls that still persist with this farce would never be critical of the experience, would they, hell, that would be almost tantamount to admitting that they are fools.
.....Then again I haven't been to Chernobyl, but I don't need to go to know what it's like.
So quote the data - how did you work it out?
2012/13 average 10,948
2013/14 average 2,348
80% drop in average attendance.
Chinny is the maths genius so I want to see his 90% never go. Absurd in itself as it presupposes people never only go once or twice.
I suppose if the proportion of ST holders (or people who go every game) is higher you could make an argument that the % staying away is higher but you'd really have to study all the data more than I am going to. You'd have to strip out visiting supporters, freebies and neutrals (both of which probably aren't recorded). Not sure you could totally prove it one way or the other on the data available.
Chinny is the maths genius so I want to see his 90% never go. Absurd in itself as it presupposes people never only go once or twice.
Do you know it was just an estimate and given that a 10% margin of error is not bad. (That is of course if the integrity of the data used to perform the calculation can be verified, all of which I don't have time for when making a point on a football forum)
I am not really a maths genius, that part was just a joke.
Surveys have a much smaller margin for error than that.
And all this is irrelevant. This is called an award but its not its a standard, a benchmark.
If you were a cynic you would say the original telegraph article was designed to whip up fans fury.
Was it mentioned last year they missed out on this? Don't think so. Would have been had they won? No.
This isn't an award but a consumer satisfaction standard - like stars in a hotel. The CET I'm sure are ok with the response.
The fans' fury was already there. Otherwise there would have been no article...
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To be fair, didn't most of the fury come because of the article, else most probably wouldn't have known about it?
So now newspapers should not report news ........amazing
To be fair, didn't most of the fury come because of the article, else most probably wouldn't have known about it?
I think most of the fury came after the club tweeted about the fact they had won an award for the way it treats its fans.
No doubt more reaction followed, but to suggest the CT was the cause of the fury is stretching it a little, in my opinion.
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To be fair, didn't most of the fury come because of the article, else most probably wouldn't have known about it?
If ACL won a "cleanest stadium of the year award" Nick would be all over it
the club put it on the offal !
Got a reasonable chance of that I'd have thought.
Less people read that than go to Sixfields.
In three weeks.
If ACL won a "cleanest stadium of the year award" Nick would be all over it
I think most of the fury came after the club tweeted about the fact they had won an award for the way it treats its fans.
No doubt more reaction followed, but to suggest the CT was the cause of the fury is stretching it a little, in my opinion.
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Said while holding a wooden spoon behind his back
I think most of the fury came after the club tweeted about the fact they had won an award for the way it treats its fans.
No doubt more reaction followed, but to suggest the CT was the cause of the fury is stretching it a little, in my opinion.
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