Coventry City Fans Deserve Better (1 Viewer)

lamtara2006 · Mar 29, 2014

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/29/coventry-city-fans-deserve-better

The Observer 30th March 2014 Daniel Taylor

SlowerThanPlatt · Mar 29, 2014

Correct Daniel Taylor. Good article too.

TasmanSeaSkyBlue · Mar 29, 2014

Good article, helped me a lot.

robbiethemole · Mar 29, 2014

Who feels another SISU attempt to silence the dissenters??? Did anything come of their last complaint about The Guardian?

Bill Glazier · Mar 29, 2014

Good article - think I'll join the 'hillers' for a game soon.

señor Santiago · Mar 29, 2014

"Coventry were playing Stevenage and for the first half I sat in the main stand wondering if I had ever been to a professional game where there was absolutely zero chanting from the home crowd. "

pusbccfc · Mar 29, 2014

I do recommend watching from the hill. Considering how much none of us want to be there, we have good fun.

georgehudson · Mar 30, 2014

an excellent article, which, most unfortunately points the finger,
in the direction of the 'owners' or 'controllers'
neither of which do Coventry City fans know anything about,
THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE,
so, as a CONSEQUENCE, or, point of law, should we know who owns us ?
i'm sure mr fishface has his distorted view,
if that's ok with you joy,
do explain

lamtara2006 · Mar 30, 2014

robbiethemole said:
Who feels another SISU attempt to silence the dissenters??? Did anything come of their last complaint about The Guardian?

I believe Sisu's lawyers went to Press Complaints Commission but it has not been followed through.

James Smith · Mar 30, 2014

lamtara2006 said:
I believe Sisu's lawyers went to Press Complaints Commission but it has not been followed through.

I would be interested to know what the grounds for their complaint was.

Covstu · Mar 30, 2014

James Smith said:
I would be interested to know what the grounds for their complaint was.

exactly, its one mans view for what its worth. Yes it paints them in a negative light but a truthful negative light. You think if there was anything in factual here they would respond in kind instead of just sueing people and making public opinion worse (if it can be)

skybluetony176 · Mar 30, 2014

Bill Glazier said:
Good article - think I'll join the 'hillers' for a game soon.

Thinking the same.

lewys33 · Mar 30, 2014

James Smith said:
I would be interested to know what the grounds for their complaint was.

From what I understand the complaint was David Conn said that SISU did not pay any rent. Sisu say they did.

skybluebal · Mar 30, 2014

Good article to keep our plight in the national limelight, shame it did not reference the e-petition but much appreciated.

Regarding a Phoenix club, we don't need to create a new club, if you want to support an established Coventry team playing in Coventry, then why not go to watch Coventry Sphinx. If CCFC do ever return great, but you get your Saturday fix! and you help to develop local players, get the next generation into supporting their local team, plus ready for the worst case scenario that CCFC continues it's terminal decline into liquidation.

PUSB

sotonskyblue · Mar 30, 2014

cov fans deserve better

New poster on here.Two days ago had email reply from David Conn saying that they(the guardian)have not taken down their aticle and stood by what they originally said.Confirmed that they will continue to watch and report on any developments.

SlowerThanPlatt · Mar 30, 2014

sotonskyblue said:
New poster on here.Two days ago had email reply from David Conn saying that they(the guardian)have not taken down their aticle and stood by what they originally said.Confirmed that they will continue to watch and report on any developments.

:welcome:

Hobo · Mar 30, 2014

It's alright SISU complaining, but when will they realise their view is the minority? Good article. SISU destroying our club.

Sky Blue Harry H · Mar 30, 2014

James Smith said:
I would be interested to know what the grounds for their complaint was.

If I'm correct the grounds were that the article was ' 35 miles wide of the mark' or was it that the article was 'that the ground was 35 miles wide of the mark'. I've confused myself now

Houchens Head · Mar 30, 2014

Brilliant article! Well written and sums up everything in a nutshell! Loved the way Daniel Taylor emphasises that a bloody "spider show" is more important at the Ricoh these days!

Houchens Head · Mar 30, 2014

sotonskyblue said:
New poster on here.Two days ago had email reply from David Conn saying that they(the guardian)have not taken down their aticle and stood by what they originally said.Confirmed that they will continue to watch and report on any developments.

Welcome Sotonskyblue! :welcome: I'm just "over the water"! (IoW)

Tonylinc · Mar 30, 2014

sotonskyblue said:
New poster on here.Two days ago had email reply from David Conn saying that they(the guardian)have not taken down their aticle and stood by what they originally said.Confirmed that they will continue to watch and report on any developments.

Welcome :welcome:

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 30, 2014

His wider criticism of the present obsession with a hyper commercialised Premier League is also very refreshing. The PL was very happy to wipe its hands clean of Pompey once they got relegated since as far as the media's concerned football doesn't exist below that level and we are constantly told what a great 'brand' the league is. A brand for plastic glory hunters far and wide whilst everybody else feeds off scraps.

The English game is broken.

Tonylinc · Mar 30, 2014

At one time of course the PL needed the rest of us a "feeder" clubs. That need no longer exist since the advent of cheap foreign players and having engineered a way to demand any potential youth player.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 30, 2014

Tonylinc said:
At one time of course the PL needed the rest of us a "feeder" clubs. That need no longer exist since the advent of cheap foreign players and having engineered a way to demand any potential youth player.

The new academy rules now making it easier than ever before for promising youngsters to be poached from a club as soon as they start to look any good. Bayern Munich's Bundesliga winning XI contained 7 German internationals this week, how many English ones will Chelsea's or Man City's?

JohnWH · Mar 30, 2014

Brighton Sky Blue said:
The new academy rules now making it easier than ever before for promising youngsters to be poached from a club as soon as they start to look any good. Bayern Munich's Bundesliga winning XI contained 7 German internationals this week, how many English ones will Chelsea's or Man City's?

I am fine to admit I don't know how academies work. What types of rules do you mean?

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 30, 2014

JohnWH said:
I am fine to admit I don't know how academies work. What types of rules do you mean?

It used to be that you couldn't sign a youngster under a certain age (I forget which) from another club if he lived more than 90 minutes away. Now, each club's academy is assigned a 'category', where 1 is the highest and 4 is the lowest. If your academy is ranked at, say, 1, you can sign a player from an academy with a worse rating with no restrictions on geography. At the moment we are Category 2.

JohnWH · Mar 30, 2014

Brighton Sky Blue said:
It used to be that you couldn't sign a youngster under a certain age (I forget which) from another club if he lived more than 90 minutes away. Now, each club's academy is assigned a 'category', where 1 is the highest and 4 is the lowest. If your academy is ranked at, say, 1, you can sign a player from an academy with a worse rating with no restrictions on geography. At the moment we are Category 2.

Meaning, for instance, Johnny Super Striker is currently an academy youth for Local FC, who havd Cat 3 category, can be then coaxed by Man U? Can I assume then that Man U is effectively stealing youth superstars, or is there compensation/sale, or does that not apply because there aren't really professional contracts for youth academy players? Or do youth players ( or parents?) sign agreements or what-all to stay at the academy on a year-by-year basis?

Sorry to front load a lot questions, I never truly appreciated how complex academy might be. Suddenly I realize how little I know...

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 30, 2014

JohnWH said:
Meaning, for instance, Johnny Super Striker is currently an academy youth for Local FC, who havd Cat 3 category, can be then coaxed by Man U? Can I assume then that Man U is effectively stealing youth superstars, or is there compensation/sale, or does that not apply because there aren't really professional contracts for youth academy players? Or do youth players ( or parents?) sign agreements or what-all to stay at the academy on a year-by-year basis?

Sorry to front load a lot questions, I never truly appreciated how complex academy might be. Suddenly I realize how little I know...

I don't think the rules on compensation have changed, however now rather than wait for a player to reach 16 and sign him (when the compensation involved would be bigger), good prospects can be signed at any time and the younger they are the lower the compensation. If we had continued not playing the academy at the Higgs Centre then we would have been downgraded to Category 2.

pusbccfc · Mar 30, 2014

Brighton Sky Blue said:
The new academy rules now making it easier than ever before for promising youngsters to be poached from a club as soon as they start to look any good. Bayern Munich's Bundesliga winning XI contained 7 German internationals this week, how many English ones will Chelsea's or Man City's?

In all fairness Liverpool have a-lot of British players.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 31, 2014

pusbccfc said:
In all fairness Liverpool have a-lot of British players.

Good to see, but they are the exception rather than the rule at the moment.

Houchens Head · Mar 31, 2014

pusbccfc said:
In all fairness Liverpool have a-lot of British players.

Yep. Suarez was born in Birkenhead.

pusbccfc · Mar 31, 2014

Houchens Head said:
Yep. Suarez was born in Birkenhead.

Yeah, but he isn't important...

ajsccfc · Mar 31, 2014

When's this weightlifting at the Ricoh he mentions?

covcity4life · Mar 31, 2014

ajsccfc said:
When's this weightlifting at the Ricoh he mentions?

be patient and weight for them to annouce it. hehe

ajsccfc · Mar 31, 2014

Alright, no need to be a clean and jerk about it.

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