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Match Thread Coventry City - Derby County Match Thread - Wednesday 6th Nov (1 Viewer)

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SBAndy

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,366
shmmeee said:
There was a plan. The players didn’t follow it. That’s what Robins said. We didn’t use the space out wide, we wasted possession with bad decisions, we didn’t move the ball quick enough or move them around off the ball.
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Wing backs far too reserved. When Bobby was on the ball they covered every pass, no idea why he didn’t just drive forward into the space and look to commit one of their players. Again, we sit here saying the same thing - we need to attack quickly. Outpaced by a bunch of glorified traffic cones.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,367
Matt smith said:
Don’t think we’ll finish above derby

Plymouth probably fair
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Nah we will - we’ve got an extra gear that Robins has got to find.

Derby are managed by Paul Warne who is limited at this level. They’ll pick up points and stay up but we’ll get more.

Oxford are sliding down the table aswell since their good start. We’ll finish above them aswell.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,368
No Eccles next game either, so something has to change, but probably not for the better.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,369
Evo1883 said:
Sure but as I know you're not thick as mince you are aware we are a 2nd tier championship outfit not the canley social club
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I mean they could have had us all fooled on tonight's showing
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,370
shmmeee said:
No Eccles next game either, so something has to change, but probably not for the better.
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I imagine joel will move into midfield ..

Me personally
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,371
Evo1883 said:
I imagine joel will move into midfield ..

Me personally
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I think given what’s available he’ll move Rudoni in and put Dasilva out left.

Squad suddenly looks awfully thin again.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,372
shmmeee said:
No Eccles next game either, so something has to change, but probably not for the better.
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Because Eccles is the best midfielder in the world?
 

Matt smith

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,373
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Nah we will - we’ve got an extra gear that Robins has got to find.

Derby are managed by Paul Warne who is limited at this level. They’ll pick up points and stay up but we’ll get more.

Oxford are sliding down the table aswell since their good start. We’ll finish above them aswell.
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All fair comments apart from

a limited Paul warne who tactically out thought our manager?

Interesting
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,374
covcity4life said:
Because Eccles is the best midfielder in the world?
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He's currently the only midfielder playing at 110%
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,375
covcity4life said:
Because Eccles is the best midfielder in the world?
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Because we’ve got zero cover without moving someone from elsewhere in the team
 

shepardo01

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,376
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Their keeper is a swedish international
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What sport?
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,377
Matt smith said:
All fair comments apart from

a limited Paul warne who tactically out thought our manager?

Interesting
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I think you're giving Warne too much credit
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,378
Briles said:
We had more attempts on goal, more possession, more corners, twice the amount of passes, more completed crosses and a higher XG than Derby and we lost 2-1. Go figure
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That’s because
a) they were even more shite than we were
b) they came for a point, once they went ahead they could park the bus
c) they are so much better at parking the bus and defending a lead than we are

In summary, they didn’t need to go chasing those meaningless stats. The only important one shows 2 actual goals for them and only 1 actual goal for us.

According to the rules of the game, that means they won and we lost.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,379
Matt smith said:
All fair comments apart from

a limited Paul warne who tactically out thought our manager?

Interesting
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And has regularly struggled against Robins. Robins tactically outthought Enzo Maresca doesn’t make him a better manager
 

Otis

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,380
covmark said:
Surely if the plan isn't working, then things get changed. There wasn't much coming from the bench tonight. I know you've nailed your colours to the mast, wrt Robins, and we all love him for what he's done. He'll always be a legend. It's time for someone else to come in now surely. He's taken us as far as he can now.
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Those two wins and the 3 game unbeaten streak, have earned him more time as far as I am concerned.

Tonight was a disaster, but it all came down to an awful mistake and a heavy deflection.

He deserves more time. He's earned it.
As I said earlier, I think that without that Rudoni suicide pass and gift, I believe we would have gone on to win that game.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,381
Evo1883 said:
I think you're giving Warne too much credit
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Appreciate that pass back played perfectly in derby’s hands

however we have to be better at breaking teams down
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,382
Otis said:
Those two wins and the 3 game unbeaten streak, have earned him more time as far as I am concerned.

Tonight was a disaster, but it all came down to an awful mistake and a heavy deflection.

He deserves more time. He's earned it.
As I said earlier, I think that without that Rudoni suicide pass and gift, we would have gone on to win that game.
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We just need to top talking like this and focus on what the squad needs in January because it's clearly not balanced and is lacking a couple of players
 

Matt smith

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,383
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
And has regularly struggled against Robins. Robins tactically outthought Enzo Maresca doesn’t make him a better manager
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Yeah fair enough

He has to find or develop a style that can penetrate quicker against teams who just sit in against us
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,384
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Their keeper is a swedish international
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His kicking was atrocious. The most annoying thing was, he notably shanked two kicks, one we just about defended the resulting fortunate attack and the other Rudoni provided an assist for Yates' goal.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,385
Matt smith said:
Appreciate that pass back played perfectly in derby’s hands

however we have to be better at breaking teams down
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Sure , but their 2 goals were like a gift from the gods
 
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Matt smith

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,386
Evo1883 said:
Sure , but their 2 goals were like a gift from the gods
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We are constantly giving away crap goals
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,387
Matt smith said:
We are constantly giving away crap goals
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I agree
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,388
Evo1883 said:
We just need to top talking like this and focus on what the squad needs in January because it's clearly not balanced and is lacking a couple of players
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I maintain an experienced CM and an experienced CB transform this side. Just crying out for some steel and leadership on the pitch.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,389
Matt smith said:
Yeah fair enough

He has to find or develop a style that can penetrate quicker against teams who just sit in against us
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And this is what I agree with. We’re fine against teams who open up.

Clueless against teams who play rigid 11 behind the ball.

It’s why I’m convinced we’ll pick up a point at least on Saturday
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,390
Evo1883 said:
We just need to top talking like this and focus on what the squad needs in January because it's clearly not balanced and is lacking a couple of players
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Definitely. We have to do some decent dealing in the Jan window
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,391
shmmeee said:
I maintain an experienced CM and an experienced CB transform this side. Just crying out for some steel and leadership on the pitch.
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I agree
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,392
MalcSB said:
It looked off from where I was sitting, linesman was miles behind play having a nice cup of coffee.
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Apparently the coaches with the ipads told Robins it was definitely offside according to Robins himself, thank goodness we have these sophisticated technicians in the dug out. Get out in the technical area and coach for fucks sake!
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,393
Evo1883 said:
We just need to top talking like this and focus on what the squad needs in January because it's clearly not balanced and is lacking a couple of players
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A McFadzeanesque centre half and an experienced central midfielder.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,394
Otis said:
Definitely. We have to do some decent dealing in the Jan window
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Is that where we will find the extra gear?
 
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SBAndy

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,395
Skybluekyle said:
His kicking was atrocious. The most annoying thing was, he notably shanked two kicks, one we just about defended the resulting fortunate attack and the other Rudoni provided an assist for Yates' goal.
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It wasn’t half. That one that Rudoni eventually played through, it was about 50 yards away from the intended target.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,396
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
We’ve lost 8 out of our last 11 home games
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We're not even getting draws, Hull and QPR last season, Swansea, Sheff Wed, Norwich and tonight we should be walking off with a point at least to build on. We're too sloppy and unprofessional
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,397
Honestly on current form I’d drop Sheaf (clean up on aisle EarlsdonSkyBlue) for that CM. Toss up for the defenders but given mobility and everything it would probably be Thomas at CB who loses out. Unless he moves to the right side.
 
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SBTasha

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,398
shmmeee said:
Did Vik lose it at Brighton and Swansea?

It’s a factor of leadership. People are different depending on the situation. Look how many players have gone world beater to carpet beater since leaving a good Robins side. Without leadership your team is at the mercy of emotions and how the game is going and if MvE won on Mario Kart last night. With it they’re focused. Some teams lead themselves but not many.
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Mario Kart really really made me smile again
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,399
shmmeee said:
Honestly on current form I’d drop Sheaf (clean up on aisle EarlsdonSkyBlue) for that CM. Toss up for the defenders but given mobility and everything it would probably be Thomas at CB who loses out. Unless he moves to the right side.
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As much as you don't like thomas , without the lad we'd be like that meme where the security guard is searching people without a care in the world.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 6, 2024
  • #1,400
Evo1883 said:
As much as you don't like thomas , without the lad we'd be like that meme where the security guard is searching people without a care in the world.
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I dont think he’s much better defensively and as one of the players who just get the most touches of the ball he just doesn’t use it or drive well enough. But mostly I think an older CB will likely play the central role.
 
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