shmmeee
Well-Known Member
They’re lower champ/L1 clubs at best. Have a word.
In terms of city size they’re both about a quarter of our size.
They’re lower champ/L1 clubs at best. Have a word.Don't think they are any smaller/nor bigger than us
Or Blackburn for that matter, Blackburn are a medium sized club who just happened to win the lottery with a very wealthy local benefactor in the 80s/90s
If we play like we did against Sunderland, we’ll get something from the game. We’re playing Burnley not 1980’s AC Milan.
Recency bias I guess, Burnley have never been in the bottom two divisions in my lifetime, we haveThey’re lower champ/L1 clubs at best. Have a word.
In terms of city size they’re both about a quarter of our size.
Recency bias I guess, Burnley have never been in the bottom two divisions in my lifetime, we have
Hence why there are people I know genuinely convinced Swansea and Stoke are much bigger clubs than us as they have seen them as stable Premier League sides but not us
Personally class ourselves, Burnley and Blackburn as middle to upper Championship sized clubs
Burnley and Blackburn can’t regularly fill a 30k stadium having not been near the top for a generation. We can. They’re tin pot. Same as Bournemouth. We aren’t Leeds or Forest level but we’re above them in the natural order IMO.
Here we go again. Confidence is flourishing again against a side in the top 3. They've only lost 2 league games all season. We've lost Dovin to injury.
I don't have a problem with hoping for a point. But some seem to be expecting the minimum of a point. Then if we lose this place goes into meltdown again when realistically it's one of our hardest games of the season.
I'm going into it looking at what the table could look like after a defeat.
WBA v Sunderland
Blackburn v Middlesbrough
Bristol City v Watford
Next game Bristol City v WBA
No side has an easy game. Both Blackburn and Watford need to win to keep in the race for a playoff place. If 2 out of the 3 sides win we would need to beat Burnley to stay in the top 6. But it gets easier for us after this game. If 2 sides fail to win we will be still in the top 6 after having 3 games on the bounce against the top 4 sides. Whatever happens it's then Bristol City v WBA as I mentioned.
At the worst we can only be 1 point out of the playoffs. Wouldn't everyone have settled for that before we started these games? No.need for another meltdown even if it means we have lost 3 out of 4 games.
Bournemouth can get to fuck. Would like to see them with their financial troubles of old, back in League 2 where they belong.There are Bournemouth fans who genuinely think they're a bigger club than the likes of Ajax, Benfica and the Glasgow clubs because they've managed to tap into the EPL gravy train, (Ive spoken to some).
Absolute fucking delusion. I don't like calling other clubs tinpot but they are tinpot.
We've done that a handful of times in the last 50 years, mate.Burnley and Blackburn can’t regularly fill a 30k stadium having not been near the top for a generation. We can. They’re tin pot. Same as Bournemouth. We aren’t Leeds or Forest level but we’re above them in the natural order IMO.
Yeh I agree, Bournemouth take the crown though so you kinda forget Brighton. Brentford get a pass with many too. Not with me..Funny Brighton get a pass but in reality them too. Burnley Brighton Bournemouth Blackburn. B-teams by name B-teams by nature.
Meh, Brighton had a tough time with stadium troubles which is pretty relatable. Good bunch of fans also.Funny Brighton get a pass but in reality them too. Burnley Brighton Bournemouth Blackburn. B-teams by name B-teams by nature.
Big is an interesting one, for me it's a combination of fanbase, history, current status. History matters less and less the further you get away from it though, I'm fully aware that the likes of Preston, Sunderland and Wednesday won some shit before Hitler marched across Europe. But who really gives a fuck?We've done that a handful of times in the last 50 years, mate.
If 'big' is based on success, which I'd argue should be, both Burnley and Blackburn have spent much more time in the top flight than us (60/72/34).
Yeh I agree, Bournemouth take the crown though so you kinda forget Brighton. Brentford get a pass with many too. Not with me..
We've done that a handful of times in the last 50 years, mate.
If 'big' is based on success, which I'd argue should be, both Burnley and Blackburn have spent much more time in the top flight than us (60/72/34).
Don’t forget Huddersfield’s back to back titles in the 20s ThomasBig is an interesting one, for me it's a combination of fanbase, history, current status. History matters less and less the further you get away from it though, I'm fully aware that the likes of Preston, Sunderland and Wednesday won some shit before Hitler marched across Europe. But who really gives a fuck?
Yeah I do get that last bit! Anybody not in my Panini sticker albums between 1984 and 1988 had all the footballing relevance of a pub team. I still struggle to accept that Wolves are anything other than an amateur team that have somehow fluked current top flight football.It’s not just cumulative years in the top flight or PNE would be up there. It’s a mix of town size, history, stadium, and yes where they were in 1998 when the world fixed itself in my head.
Bradford would probably be a more acceptable Prem team than at least Bournemouth and Brentford.Brentford! Knew I forgot one.
Who gives a fuck? I'd argue we'd be using it as justification of our standing in the world if we'd won anything pre-war.Big is an interesting one, for me it's a combination of fanbase, history, current status. History matters less and less the further you get away from it though, I'm fully aware that the likes of Preston, Sunderland and Wednesday won some shit before Hitler marched across Europe. But who really gives a fuck?
Herbert Chapmans boys were quite something i hear.Don’t forget Huddersfield’s back to back titles in the 20s Thomas
It's irrelevant, no one cares, just as no one apart from us cares we won a cup 40 years ago. Although when you are at the point where no one alive could possibly have seen it anymore, you really are grasping at straws if that's what you use to label yourself a 'big club'.Who gives a fuck? I'd argue we'd be using it as justification of our standing in the world if we'd won anything pre-war.
We're pushing 40 years on from winning the FAC and we still bang on about as much today as we did then. When does that cease to be relevant?
Burnley and Blackburn can’t regularly fill a 30k stadium having not been near the top for a generation. We can. They’re tin pot. Same as Bournemouth. We aren’t Leeds or Forest level but we’re above them in the natural order IMO.
Locked in an locked on, bruv.Brentford! Knew I forgot one.
And they have population of 80,000. They're gates are huge compared to a lot of clubsBurnley are nothing like Bournemouth - they were a huge team in the 60’s
And surrounded by towns/cities with their own clubs and only about an hour from Manchester, Liverpool and Leeds that will mop up a lot of support from their catchment area.And they have population of 80,000. They're gates are huge compared to a lot of clubs
That’s what I would go with.Wilson
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That’s what I would go with.
We're in 5th and 2 points ahead of all 3 but with a worse GD. If 2 of them win we're in 7th unless we beat Burnley.Even if we lose I believe we will still be in the play off places, the three teams below us that can overtake us will not all win, if we look at last Saturday there were lots of slip ups, I can see this happening again on Saturday, keep the faith, PUSB
We‘ll be safely in a play off spot by the Luton game, just have to make 5th spot oursWe're in 5th and 2 points ahead of all 3 but with a worse GD. If 2 of them win we're in 7th unless we beat Burnley.
But with 2 of them playing each other in the next game there's more guaranteed points dropped. We might be clear of 2 of them in a few games. Just need to take it a game at a time and enjoy the journey.
According to their website they only took an allocation of 1921. if that's correct they still have a few hundred seats left in that window.Looking like Burnley will sell out, can we get a 30k crowd again, our ticket sales not doing to bad.
Who would have taken this, on the evening of the Derby loss, going into this game.We're in 5th and 2 points ahead of all 3 but with a worse GD.
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