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Otis · Sep 25, 2017

I'm sure it's been covered before on here re new stadiums and acadamies etc., but I have now been there 4 times in the last week and there is absoulutely loads and loads of room, both for the airport itself and for several stadiums too. It's absolutely massive there and so much spare space. It's quite staggering how big it is.

Have the club ever looked there at all?

Having seen the place I would have thought it would have been frequently discussed as a number one identified location.

Moff · Sep 25, 2017

Otis said:
I'm sure it's been covered before on here re new stadiums and acadamies etc., but I have now been there 4 times in the last week and there is absoulutely loads and loads of room, both for the airport itself and for several stadiums too. It's absolutely massive there and so much spare space. It's quite staggering how big it is.

Have the club ever looked there at all?

Having seen the place I would have thought it would have been frequently discussed as a number one identified location.

Its in Nimbyland Otis.
Warwick District Council would pretty much put a stop to it before plans had been drawn up.
The Airport never expanded due to WDC, and the Gateway project from Sir Peter Rigby was also rejected.
If one of the Midlands best Entrepreneurs cant get the Gateway completed there is no chance for Fisher and Co.

pastythegreat · Sep 25, 2017

Otis said:
I'm sure it's been covered before on here re new stadiums and acadamies etc., but I have now been there 4 times in the last week and there is absoulutely loads and loads of room, both for the airport itself and for several stadiums too. It's absolutely massive there and so much spare space. It's quite staggering how big it is.

Have the club ever looked there at all?

Having seen the place I would have thought it would have been frequently discussed as a number one identified location.

IF. And it's a big IF, anything is going to happen up there, it'll have dibs on it by JLR.

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Otis · Sep 25, 2017

What's the land opposite the airport? Stacks of room there too. Guessing something is going on there or happening as it is all dug up. That stretches all the way alongside the airport road going into Baginton.

Brylowes · Sep 25, 2017

Moff said:
Its in Nimbyland Otis.
Warwick District Council would pretty much put a stop to it before plans had been drawn up.
The Airport never expanded due to WDC, and the Gateway project from Sir Peter Rigby was also rejected.
If one of the Midlands best Entrepreneurs cant get the Gateway completed there is no chance for Fisher and Co.

That Gateway project could have been a game changer for Coventry, but it was scupperd by A
handful of people who enjoy the benefits of living just outside the city, but would never entertain
The idea of the city encroaching on their idyllic country lifestyle.

pastythegreat · Sep 25, 2017

Otis said:
What's the land opposite the airport? Stacks of room there too. Guessing something is going on there or happening as it is all dug up. That stretches all the way alongside the airport road going into Baginton.

That'll surely be the JLR extension to Whitley. Doubling the size of Whitley with a purpose built bridge connecting the two sides of the A45.

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Deleted member 5849 · Sep 25, 2017

Brylowes said:
That Gateway project could have been a game changer for Coventry, but it was scupperd by A
handful of people who enjoy the benefits of living just outside the city, but would never entertain
The idea of the city encroaching on their idyllic country lifestyle.

Well... Baginton's not exactly idyllic countrified...

But would *you* want a bloody great business park, and your village connected to Coventry and being subsumed into it? Easy to say if not living there...

Brylowes · Sep 25, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
Well... Baginton's not exactly idyllic countrified...

But would *you* want a bloody great business park, and your village connected to Coventry and being subsumed into it? Easy to say if not living there...

But city's by their nature expand and grow, if you live on the outer boundary 'chances are
You'll get swallowed up at some point,
I may not like the decision if I lived there but the Decision should be reached for the good
of the area in general and not to prevent a few people having their lifestyle interrupted.

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 25, 2017

Brylowes said:
But city's by their nature expand and grow, if you live on the outer boundary 'chances are
You'll get swallowed up at some point,
I may not like the decision if I lived there but the Decision should be reached for the good
of the area in general and not to prevent a few people having their lifestyle interrupted.

And greenbelt is for the good of all, unless we want to turn into a country of nowt but concrete.

Not just in terms of wellbeing, but also in terms of tourism benefits too...

pastythegreat · Sep 25, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
And greenbelt is for the good of all, unless we want to turn into a country of nowt but concrete.

Not just in terms of wellbeing, but also in terms of tourism benefits too...

But the plan wasnt to build on Green belt though was it?

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Deleted member 5849 · Sep 25, 2017

pastythegreat said:
But the plan wasnt to build on Green belt though was it?

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It was to build on the styrip separating Coventry from baginton, wasn't it?

Guess tbf, we could build between Meriden and Coventry and Birmingham, and merge Coventry into Birmingham. To be expected with them so close to each other, after all...

Brylowes · Sep 25, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
And greenbelt is for the good of all, unless we want to turn into a country of nowt but concrete.

Not just in terms of wellbeing, but also in terms of tourism benefits too...

But nobody's talking about concreting over everything, it's a designated enterprise Zone
With associated government grants, to provide high quality jobs and massive economic
Investment to an area in desperate need of both.

pastythegreat · Sep 25, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
It was to build on the styrip separating Coventry from baginton, wasn't it?

Guess tbf, we could build between Meriden and Coventry and Birmingham, and merge Coventry into Birmingham. To be expected with them so close to each other, after all...

Building on land that JLR are now building on?

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Brylowes · Sep 25, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
It was to build on the styrip separating Coventry from baginton, wasn't it?

Guess tbf, we could build between Meriden and Coventry and Birmingham, and merge Coventry into Birmingham. To be expected with them so close to each other, after all...

I must have missed the bit where they said "if the gateway project is approved we will swiftly
Move on with the plan to urbanise the green belt between Coventry and Birmingham.

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 25, 2017

Brylowes said:
I must have missed the bit where they said "if the gateway project is approved we will swiftly
Move on with the plan to urbanise the green belt between Coventry and Birmingham.

Got to expect it, being so close... and why stand in the way of progress? If you live in Coventry, got to expect being swallowed up by Birmingham.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Sep 25, 2017

Otis said:
I'm sure it's been covered before on here re new stadiums and acadamies etc., but I have now been there 4 times in the last week and there is absoulutely loads and loads of room, both for the airport itself and for several stadiums too. It's absolutely massive there and so much spare space. It's quite staggering how big it is.

Have the club ever looked there at all?

Having seen the place I would have thought it would have been frequently discussed as a number one identified location.

1) It's too far from the City Centre
2) SISU are never going to build a stadium
3) You were one of the ones moaning about the Butts because it didn't have enough pedestrian crossings

NEXT!

Nick · Sep 25, 2017

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
1) It's too far from the City Centre
2) SISU are never going to build a stadium
3) You were one of the ones moaning about the Butts because it didn't have enough pedestrian crossings

NEXT!

Although it isn't going to happen, it's actually closer than the Ricoh.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Sep 25, 2017

Nick said:
Although it isn't going to happen, it's actually closer than the Ricoh.

That's not the point I was making.

The move to the Ricoh should be enough of a bad advertisement for what happens to a club when you move its home away from its heart.

Otis · Sep 25, 2017

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
1) It's too far from the City Centre
2) SISU are never going to build a stadium
3) You were one of the ones moaning about the Butts because it didn't have enough pedestrian crossings

NEXT!

Nope, I wasn't. I just said it was too small there, not enough space and there would be gridlock.

There is loads of scope by the airport to build new access roads. Stacks of it. At the Butts that was impossible.

letsallsingtogether · Sep 25, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
And greenbelt is for the good of all, unless we want to turn into a country of nowt but concrete.

Not just in terms of wellbeing, but also in terms of tourism benefits too...

Northern dont get me started greenbelt.
It's Ok for WDC to build on land adjasent to coventry so we lose ours but encroach theirs and it No No No.
Fucking hypocrites.

Houchens Head · Sep 25, 2017

Just build it in Broadgate and be done with it! Easy access for all!

Otis · Sep 25, 2017

Houchens Head said:
Just build it in Broadgate and be done with it! Easy access for all!

No, cos everyone on here keeps saying how shit Coventry city centre is and they would never go up.

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 25, 2017

Otis said:
No, cos everyone on here keeps saying how shit Coventry city centre is and they would never go up.

That's because it doesn't have a football ground in it.

Otis · Sep 25, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
That's because it doesn't have a football ground in it.

As soon as it did they would just be moaning about everything else surrounding it.

fernandopartridge · Sep 25, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
Well... Baginton's not exactly idyllic countrified...

But would *you* want a bloody great business park, and your village connected to Coventry and being subsumed into it? Easy to say if not living there...

Can't remember the people of Walsgrave on Sowe etc being given the choice.

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richnrg · Sep 25, 2017

can't see it taking off i'm afraid

Otis · Sep 25, 2017

And my point is the airport is there anyway. A stadium there wouldn't impinge on anything there if it was placed at the Middlemarch Business Park end. That's nowhere near any houses at all and still 3 or 4 mins drive from Baginton.

shmmeee · Sep 25, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
And greenbelt is for the good of all, unless we want to turn into a country of nowt but concrete.

Not just in terms of wellbeing, but also in terms of tourism benefits too...

So let's just live in a country as it was in 1950 despite increasing population?

Let's protect the house values of a few retirees so I can raise my kids in overcrowded housing?

How's about no. We are at something like 2% urban development in this country, we can afford to lose a bit more and build decent houses for people and jobs for them to go to. Earlsdon and Foleshill got subsumed into Coventry, that's how growth works.

Maybe if we didn't protect the green belt like we do we wouldn't end up with tiny idyllic villages and shit hole towns, maybe we could build towns people don't immediately want to move out of?

I'm an environmentalist, don't get me wrong, but the green belt is a sledgehammer to crack a nut IMO. You could do the same work with proper planning laws.

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 25, 2017

shmmeee said:
So let's just live in a country as it was in 1950 despite increasing population?

No.

shmmeee said:
Let's protect the house values of a few retirees so I can raise my kids in overcrowded housing?

No.

But you're doing a total 180 and automatically assuming that all projects should be passed, if you don't introduce some sensitivity.

Merge Cov with Birmingham, CCFC can get a ground in Handsworth, and everyone's happy. End of thread.

shmmeee said:
we wouldn't end up with tiny idyllic villages and shit hole towns

We don't.

matesx · Sep 25, 2017

from the BBC...

.... The urban landscape accounts for 10.6% of England, 1.9% of Scotland, 3.6% of Northern Ireland and 4.1% of Wales.

Put another way, that means almost 93% of the UK is not urban. But even that isn't the end of the story because urban is not the same as built on.

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 25, 2017

matesx said:
from the BBC...

.... The urban landscape accounts for 10.6% of England, 1.9% of Scotland, 3.6% of Northern Ireland and 4.1% of Wales.

Put another way, that means almost 93% of the UK is not urban. But even that isn't the end of the story because urban is not the same as built on.

So the answer's obvious... move to Scotland!

Sbarcher · Sep 25, 2017

richnrg said:
can't see it taking off i'm afraid

Think there will be a pilot scheme first.

ceetee · Sep 25, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
It was to build on the styrip separating Coventry from baginton, wasn't it?

Guess tbf, we could build between Meriden and Coventry and Birmingham, and merge Coventry into Birmingham. To be expected with them so close to each other, after all...

Well CCC voted to become part of Birmingham, sorry WM, and not join up with Warwickshire.....

coop · Sep 25, 2017

What new stadium? Have I missed something.

dadgad · Sep 25, 2017

Flying, Steve's blog

It is relatively an 'undeveloped zone'
One of the reasons for this is that it is sandwiched between two rivers, the Sowe and Avon and potentially subject to flooding.

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