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skyblue025

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #246
Mucca Mad Boys said:
In fairness, Stoke’s team is pretty tragic so it wouldn’t surprise me he’s being cautious.

My gut instinct is that Robins would struggle to replicate his success with us at another Championship club.

His authority was so high before he got to the Championship, he was unassailable in this role and the single most important person at the club. Any disputes with players and he wins, that wouldn’t be the case with any other club in this division. Especially at a club like Stoke who churn through managers and frankly, are the definition of a middling-Championship club.

Stoke was a horrible fit and ironically had he waited for the Derby job, would’ve been a better fit.
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To be honest I'm not sure he will be that bothered. He's just had a 7 figure pay out from us and will get the same from Stoke when they get rid. Probably never have to work again if he doesn't want too.
 
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skyblue_55

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #247
The average term of a Stoke manager is 17 months by all accounts & going off another abject performance last night , the knives may well be out for Robin’s to part company already ?
Let’s just hope that they are as useless , when they turn up at the CBS , as we owe them for our opening day under performance ?
 
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Lamps

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #248
skyblue_55 said:
The average term of a Stoke manager is 17 months by all accounts & going off another abject performance last night , the knives may well be out for Robin’s to part company already ?
Let’s just hope that they are as useless , when they turn up at the CBS , as we owe them for our opening day under performance ?
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Spot on.

He's been left with a squad depleted by injuries and a bench of kids/players not good enough. Should be an easy win.

A round of applause to show our appreciation before the game. He saved us from oblivion no matter what angle someone wants to take it from. We've had exciting years we couldn't even dream of. He took us to a penalty shootout from the Prem. A toenail from only our second FA cup final in our history. But it's all history now.

What matters the most is 3 points.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #249
I was surprised how quickly Robins jumped back into management. I thought he would of had a bit of time off/ retired after leaving us.
 
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long way home

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #250
The Stoke fans are worried he has lost the changing room and is already throwing the players under the bus .. They are also noticing team selection, substitutions and tactics are inconsistent which is matching team performance. I honestly watched and listened to his post match interview yesterday, he looks tired and frustrated, a lot like he did before DK sacked him with us. Worrying times for him as although he has has inherited a squad and injuries, he isn't getting a reaction from the players the club or fans expected.

Could be a very short stint at a club not known for showing patience, hope for him it gets better apart from against us.
 

Major Tom

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #251
long way home said:
The Stoke fans are worried he has lost the changing room and is already throwing the players under the bus .. They are also noticing team selection, substitutions and tactics are inconsistent which is matching team performance. I honestly watched and listened to his post match interview yesterday, he looks tired and frustrated, a lot like he did before DK sacked him with us. Worrying times for him as although he has has inherited a squad and injuries, he isn't getting a reaction from the players the club or fans expected.

Could be a very short stint at a club not known for showing patience, hope for him it gets better apart from against us.
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Familiar comment from Stoke fan -
Terrible team selection . No press no urgency and defence who looked like they couldn't be arsed
I rate Robins but why can't he seem to motivate the players to give 100% from the off.
Our team is passive and lethargic and look like they either don't care or just not good enough for this league
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #252
Amazing how many of our fans frequent their socials every week

Twitter , Facebook and their forum by all accounts .

Bizarre
 
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alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #253
Major Tom said:
Familiar comment from Stoke fan -
Terrible team selection . No press no urgency and defence who looked like they couldn't be arsed
I rate Robins but why can't he seem to motivate the players to give 100% from the off.
Our team is passive and lethargic and look like they either don't care or just not good enough for this league
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Robins is quite clearly a manager who can squeeze every bit of potential from a limited squad as opposed to an expensively assembled squad of egos as we saw this season and we are now seeing at Stoke

I do think his style of management was perfectly suited to Millwall when the job come up, other than the fact he lives nearby I thought in footballing terms taking the Stoke job was an odd choice - Though his bank balance and potential pay off if they can him will say otherwise
 
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long way home

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #254
I tend to read forums of the teams we are about to play, just to get an idea of the general feeling within that club. Or where we have a players on loan to see what others think. That would be common I would of thought of all fans, not so much constantly reading other random clubs forums.

The MR one was I watched the Boro game and listened to the interview after, MR words sounded very familiar towards the end of his time with us. Which made me look at the forum to see if the fans were seeing the same limitations regarding selection and tactics. He talked about effort, not doing as they were instructed, not knowing why they don't, giving teams a leg up, starting slow, injuries etc...May be it's just me but he sounded flat sort of understanding of what might be coming.
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #255
StrettoBoy said:
Of course not but I think a display of mutual respect and affection would be appropriate.

MR achieved fantastic things for us in the most difficult of circumstances and for that he deserves to go down in history as a true club legend.
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If he waves I will join any applause. Won't be singing the MR song , not on this occasion. Not on match day.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #256
I don’t think they’re looking after him.

 
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Potbellypig

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #257
long way home said:
I tend to read forums of the teams we are about to play, just to get an idea of the general feeling within that club. Or where we have a players on loan to see what others think. That would be common I would of thought of all fans, not so much constantly reading other random clubs forums.

The MR one was I watched the Boro game and listened to the interview after, MR words sounded very familiar towards the end of his time with us. Which made me look at the forum to see if the fans were seeing the same limitations regarding selection and tactics. He talked about effort, not doing as they were instructed, not knowing why they don't, giving teams a leg up, starting slow, injuries etc...May be it's just me but he sounded flat sort of understanding of what might be coming.
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People who frequent fora are not often known for their rational thought process when it comes to football opinions.
 

Gibbo

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #258
On Saturday week I will hold two ideas completely in conflict with one another. I want City to win and I don't want Mark Robins to lose. Ultimately the desire for City to win will prevail, but tinged with sadness.

Mark Robins got me back into being an active rather than passive City supporter, during his first brief stint. I always felt that even if we were relegated from the Championship we should stick by him, as we were all on a long term project together, although I will grant you that things were clearly not good at the start of this season. He is my sort of manager - slightly dour, pragmatic. Not a dandy dan.

He is the greatest Coventry City manager of all time, and I was around for Jimmy Hill. He took over when the club was in a worse condition and operating in a far more competitive landscape than Hill's time. Two promotions, one play off and a cup semi final (and a temporary stint in Brum) in seven years was immense. Curiously both Hill and Robins buggered off at key moments but I would argue Hill's departure was far more hurtful - it was just when we needed him most.

Before we get too ecstatic about Frank - don't forget the concept of 'New manager bounce'. If you remember Robins had the exact reverse. New manager slump - "Taxi for Robins" anyone? But he came back from that.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #259
Gibbo said:
On Saturday week I will hold two ideas completely in conflict with one another. I want City to win and I don't want Mark Robins to lose. Ultimately the desire for City to win will prevail, but tinged with sadness.

Mark Robins got me back into being an active rather than passive City supporter, during his first brief stint. I always felt that even if we were relegated from the Championship we should stick by him, as we were all on a long term project together, although I will grant you that things were clearly not good at the start of this season. He is my sort of manager - slightly dour, pragmatic. Not a dandy dan.

He is the greatest Coventry City manager of all time, and I was around for Jimmy Hill. He took over when the club was in a worse condition and operating in a far more competitive landscape than Hill's time. Two promotions, one play off and a cup semi final (and a temporary stint in Brum) in seven years was immense. Curiously both Hill and Robins buggered off at key moments but I would argue Hill's departure was far more hurtful - it was just when we needed him most.

Before we get too ecstatic about Frank - don't forget the concept of 'New manager bounce'. If you remember Robins had the exact reverse. New manager slump - "Taxi for Robins" anyone? But he came back from that.
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Robins isn't our manager, why wouldn't you want him to lose against us and feel sad?

He doesn't manage Coventry City now, why would a Coventry City fan be sad if he loses games at Stoke?
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #260
Gibbo said:
On Saturday week I will hold two ideas completely in conflict with one another. I want City to win and I don't want Mark Robins to lose. Ultimately the desire for City to win will prevail, but tinged with sadness.

Mark Robins got me back into being an active rather than passive City supporter, during his first brief stint. I always felt that even if we were relegated from the Championship we should stick by him, as we were all on a long term project together, although I will grant you that things were clearly not good at the start of this season. He is my sort of manager - slightly dour, pragmatic. Not a dandy dan.

He is the greatest Coventry City manager of all time, and I was around for Jimmy Hill. He took over when the club was in a worse condition and operating in a far more competitive landscape than Hill's time. Two promotions, one play off and a cup semi final (and a temporary stint in Brum) in seven years was immense. Curiously both Hill and Robins buggered off at key moments but I would argue Hill's departure was far more hurtful - it was just when we needed him most.

Before we get too ecstatic about Frank - don't forget the concept of 'New manager bounce'. If you remember Robins had the exact reverse. New manager slump - "Taxi for Robins" anyone? But he came back from that.
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Lampard started pretty slowly, I don't think you can put whats happened since Norwich down to 'new manager bounce'.
We've been on a great run for weeks.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #261
Gibbo said:
On Saturday week I will hold two ideas completely in conflict with one another. I want City to win and I don't want Mark Robins to lose. Ultimately the desire for City to win will prevail, but tinged with sadness.

Mark Robins got me back into being an active rather than passive City supporter, during his first brief stint. I always felt that even if we were relegated from the Championship we should stick by him, as we were all on a long term project together, although I will grant you that things were clearly not good at the start of this season. He is my sort of manager - slightly dour, pragmatic. Not a dandy dan.

He is the greatest Coventry City manager of all time, and I was around for Jimmy Hill. He took over when the club was in a worse condition and operating in a far more competitive landscape than Hill's time. Two promotions, one play off and a cup semi final (and a temporary stint in Brum) in seven years was immense. Curiously both Hill and Robins buggered off at key moments but I would argue Hill's departure was far more hurtful - it was just when we needed him most.

Before we get too ecstatic about Frank - don't forget the concept of 'New manager bounce'. If you remember Robins had the exact reverse. New manager slump - "Taxi for Robins" anyone? But he came back from that.
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Mark’s achievements with us won’t go anywhere. He’ll be legend in our history but he comes as the Stoke City Manager.

That history won’t matter to him trying to beat us, it shouldn’t matter to us. Let’s give him a send off once he’s given us three more points.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #262
clint van damme said:
Lampard started pretty slowly, I don't think you can put whats happened since Norwich down to 'new manager bounce'.
We've been on a great run for weeks.
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Controversial but I don’t expect us to win 88% of games in perpetuity.
 

SBAndy

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #263
shmmeee said:
Controversial but I don’t expect us to win 88% of games in perpetuity.
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Typical negative mindset!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #264
shmmeee said:
Controversial but I don’t expect us to win 88% of games in perpetuity.
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Who does?
But Lampard didn't really have new manager bounce, the good run started 2 months after he arrived.
 
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Lamps

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #265
Nick said:
Robins isn't our manager, why wouldn't you want him to lose against us and feel sad?

He doesn't manage Coventry City now, why would a Coventry City fan be sad if he loses games at Stoke?
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Correct.

A quick round of applause for Robins before the game then smash them 5-0 would be a perfect day.
 
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Otis

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #266
Lamps said:
Correct.

A quick round of applause for Robins before the game then smash them 5-0 would be a perfect day.
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And maybe, just maybe, following the applause and half way through the game, he gets a red card from the ref for complaining and has to go and sit in the stands.
 

Shannerz

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #267
Gynnsthetonic said:
I hope he does
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Gibbo

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #268
Nick said:
Robins isn't our manager, why wouldn't you want him to lose against us and feel sad?

He doesn't manage Coventry City now, why would a Coventry City fan be sad if he loses games at Stoke?
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Life is not black and white. I will be pleased for City but it will be tinged with sadness. Tinged is the key word here
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #269
Gibbo said:
Life is not black and white. I will be pleased for City but it will be tinged with sadness. Tinged is the key word here
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Should be happy for what he did. Things change you have to move on. Fact of life. Robins acknowledged this.
 
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coop

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #270
Robins got the club back from the doldrums. But I would give Robins a clap before the whistle blows,then we need to put them to the sword early and beat them by a few goals.After we celebrate and I won't worry if it gets Robins the sack as we have moved on but I thank him for getting us here.
 
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Marty

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #271
Robins was fantastic for us, but the most I'll muster up is a pre match clap. Then it's down to business and if giving Stoke a pasting gets him the sack again then so be it. We're chasing promotion and there's no room for sentiment.
 
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rob9872

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #272
10 mins before kick off a rendition of 'One Mark Robins' shows respect and is immediately followed by 'Super Frank' Then it's down to business. No reacharound. Smash him 4-0 and hopefully a nail in the coffin. After the game he'll be down the tunnel if they lose, we'll be gone from the ground if he beats us. No sentiment, but a small appreciation before is fine and balanced.
 
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Lamps

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #273
Otis said:
And maybe, just maybe, following the applause and half way through the game, he gets a red card from the ref for complaining and has to go and sit in the stands.
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And joins us whilst we sing a song for him
 
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rob9872

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #274
In recent weeks since we've rekindled the 'E-I-E-I-E-I-O' chant, it's so automatic that I'm almost always ' We are City, We are City Ro Lampard is our king'
 
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Mcbean

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #275
Nothing during the game - before if anything - we need the points - if we win or lose MR won’t be out after the game
 

rob9872

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #276
A little jovial 'sacked in the morning' wouldn't hurt

Hopefully lots of extra loud Woos on T&S for the Stokies too.
 
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Otis

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #277
Lamps said:
And joins us whilst we sing a song for him
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Yeah, that would be good. I wonder if he will put the extra R in his name, whilst singing along
 
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Viktor17

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #278
rob9872 said:
10 mins before kick off a rendition of 'One Mark Robins' shows respect and is immediately followed by 'Super Frank' Then it's down to business. No reacharound. Smash him 4-0 and hopefully a nail in the coffin. After the game he'll be down the tunnel if they lose, we'll be gone from the ground if he beats us. No sentiment, but a small appreciation before is fine and balanced.
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This is sensible. And tend to agree.

MR is a legend, he did more than just football, help connect fans, people, the community again and gave hope and belief, more important than results in some ways.

Acknowledging him before is fine for me, however for me, there will be more appropriate times to give him the full treatment, week Saturday is not that time.

Lampard is our manager and we want 3 points badly, hope we hammer them.
 
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play_in_skyblue_stripes

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #279
Lamps said:
Spot on.

He's been left with a squad depleted by injuries and a bench of kids/players not good enough. Should be an easy win.

A round of applause to show our appreciation before the game. He saved us from oblivion no matter what angle someone wants to take it from. We've had exciting years we couldn't even dream of. He took us to a penalty shootout from the Prem. A toenail from only our second FA cup final in our history. But it's all history now.

What matters the most is 3 points.
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The toenail VAR was manipulation.
Mark and players did what was needed to get to FA cup final.

Someone / some organisation interfered on that.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Feb 26, 2025
  • #280
Gibbo said:
Life is not black and white. I will be pleased for City but it will be tinged with sadness. Tinged is the key word here
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I’ll be fucking livid with him if we lose!
 
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