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Cov utd to play at Butts next season (1 Viewer)

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #176
ceetee said:
And there's a lesson for Coventry football.

I remember playing against Valley Sports in the Rugby & District League.

They were a very well run, ambitious club. I had the impression, at that time, that the old Rugby Town were not well run despite being in a much higher league. I even thought at the time that VS would overtake them.

Well Rugby Town folded and VS flourished ......
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...partly after they lost their ground, mind you...
 

Kneeza

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #177
Deleted member 5849 said:
...partly after they lost their ground, mind you...
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As I recall it this was the main reason Town folded. I was born in Rugby and used to watch Town on odd occasions at Bilton Road. The Co-op owned the land at the time (may still do so for all I know) and decided they wanted it back to develop it. If you look at it now, many, many years later, it's still a patch of grass with footy posts on it (unless it's changed in the last year or two). Bloody shame.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #178
Kneeza said:
As I recall it this was the main reason Town folded. I was born in Rugby and used to watch Town on odd occasions at Bilton Road. The Co-op owned the land at the time (may still do so for all I know) and decided they wanted it back to develop it. If you look at it now, many, many years later, it's still a patch of grass with footy posts on it (unless it's changed in the last year or two). Bloody shame.
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I always thought that the land is owned by RBC and it's the council who closed the original Rugby town down to develop the land for housing? No wait, couldn't of been. Every council except Coventry's bend over backwards for the local football team.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #179
skybluetony176 said:
I always thought that the land is owned by RBC and it's the council who closed the original Rugby town down to develop the land for housing? No wait, couldn't of been. Every council except Coventry's bend over backwards for the local football team.
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Big difference between giving housing priority over a football team to giving it to an out of town rugby franchise.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #180
skybluetony176 said:
I always thought that the land is owned by RBC and it's the council who closed the original Rugby town down to develop the land for housing? No wait, couldn't of been. Every council except Coventry's bend over backwards for the local football team.
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Firstly, two wrongs don't make a right.

Secondly, that was my understanding too... although before my time so is just talking to fans, like.
 
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steve82

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #181
Kneeza said:
As I recall it this was the main reason Town folded. I was born in Rugby and used to watch Town on odd occasions at Bilton Road. The Co-op owned the land at the time (may still do so for all I know) and decided they wanted it back to develop it. If you look at it now, many, many years later, it's still a patch of grass with footy posts on it (unless it's changed in the last year or two). Bloody shame.
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skybluetony176 said:
I always thought that the land is owned by RBC and it's the council who closed the original Rugby town down to develop the land for housing? No wait, couldn't of been. Every council except Coventry's bend over backwards for the local football team.
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Co-op still own the land and recently applied to the council to develop on it to public outcry as it held a kids park and football pitch.... Planning permission got refused a few months back and co-op claimed there land and fenced it off to public use and land lays derelict currently as a result of co-op spitting there dummy out.
 
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Frankley

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #182
Gazolba said:
Hardly, I watched a football game there back in the 1960's. It was a Coventry XI vs a Rest of the League XI. Might have been a testimonial. I forget the details, Football has been played there many times in the past.
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But it wasn't the same stadium back in the 1960s, was it? In the 1960s the pitch was inside the cycle track and there was a tiny single stand.

Also, earlier this year the council was seeking to prevent professional football being played at The Butts. Now a team that is aspiring to be a professional football team is to play there.
 

Kneeza

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #183
steve82 said:
Co-op still own the land and recently applied to the council to develop on it to public outcry as it held a kids park and football pitch.... Planning permission got refused a few months back and co-op claimed there land and fenced it off to public use and land lays derelict currently as a result of co-op spitting there dummy out.
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That's what I thought. The Co-op Funeral Home was just to the side of it (opposite side from the grandstand) back then too, so it all adds up. Didn't know they'd since fenced it off though. Very sad.
 

Kneeza

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #184
Frankley said:
But it wasn't the same stadium back in the 1960s, was it? In the 1960s the pitch was inside the cycle track and there was a tiny single stand..
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No, far from it. I was at that charity match too (we'd moved to Cov by then). Wasn't up to much as a ground IIRC. Nice enough now though, and if, as Jon Sharp keeps telling us, the facilities are to be improved, it should be an excellent 8-10000 capacity facility with covered stands on both sides in a few years (if done as he describes). Unlike the previous two owners, Sharpy seems to be a man of his word, so i'm quite looking forward to seeing how it pans out.
 

ceetee

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #185
Well whatever the reasons for Rugby Town's demise my point was that a team much more junior in the football hierarchy has overtaken them and indeed taken their place,

I don't want to see that happen to CCFC whatever objections we might have to the current owners, but I think there are some who would welcome it
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #186
Anyway back to the op I understand it's only for one season plus option for one more till improvements of their own ground
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #187
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Anyway back to the op I understand it's only for one season plus option for one more till improvements of their own ground
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A conspiracy theorist could say that was done specifically as a Trojan Horse, to allow CCFC to move in after with less outcry, then
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #188
Deleted member 5849 said:
A conspiracy theorist could say that was done specifically as a Trojan Horse, to allow CCFC to move in after with less outcry,
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All I know is that they have problems at the old masseys ground they now own
 
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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #189
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
All I know is that they have problems at the old masseys ground they now own
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Some random team's come along, and is insisting they expand it to 20k?
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #190
But ccfc have to give the FL a credible 10 year plan as to where they will play their home games as I see it the BPA door is bolted
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #191
rupert_bear said:
But ccfc have to give the FL a credible 10 year plan as to where they will play their home games as I see it the BPA door is bolted
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Aye aye, broken record's here.
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 11, 2016
  • #192
rupert_bear said:
But ccfc have to give the FL a credible 10 year plan as to where they will play their home games as I see it the BPA door is bolted
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I don't think any plan that included the BPA should be considered credible to be honest.
 

Hobo

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #193
clint van damme said:
I don't think any plan that included the BPA should be considered credible to be honest.
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I agree. But a good move for Coventry United.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #194
Hobo said:
I agree. But a good move for Coventry United.
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Why they're not staying there
rupert_bear said:
But ccfc have to give the FL a credible 10 year plan as to where they will play their home games as I see it the BPA door is bolted
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is it?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #195
clint van damme said:
I don't e thought as think any plan that included the BPA should be considered credible to be honest.
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I would have thought as credible as any of our plans Thinking about all our other plans you're right
 

Hobo

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #196
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Why they're not staying there

is it?
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Because it will increase their profile, make them more accessible and if they get promotion will provide a lot of the facilities they will need to provide.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #197
Hobo said:
Because it will increase their profile, make them more accessible and if they get promotion will provide a lot of the facilities they will need to provide.
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So if they're only there for one max two years what facilities will they have?
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #198
i was told they would have the new masseys ground when it was completed
this was touted for half way through next year
the butts was offered to united in the first season they were started, but was declined by united

with all the non info streaming out, it would seem construction at masseys ground has slowed and the butts is a stopgap

thats all i know myself
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #199
Pipehitterz said:
i was told they would have the new masseys ground when it was completed
this was touted for half way through next year
the butts was offered to united in the first season they were started, but was declined by united

with all the non info streaming out, it would seem construction at masseys ground has slowed and the butts is a stopgap

thats all i know myself
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Apparantly there are some cables that have to be moved that's the holdup
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #200
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Apparantly there are some cables that have to be moved that's the holdup
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Actually I think someone mentioned that to me last time I was with the United guys.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #201
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Apparantly there are some cables that have to be moved that's the holdup
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At least it's only cables and not badger poo.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #202
So Coventry Utd can find a new home and afford to upgrade but we can't.
Fuck me just sell some pies
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #203
Don't know how cov United managed it no land available anywhere appearantly
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #204
Pipehitterz said:
i was told they would have the new masseys ground when it was completed
this was touted for half way through next year
the butts was offered to united in the first season they were started, but was declined by united

with all the non info streaming out, it would seem construction at masseys ground has slowed and the butts is a stopgap

thats all i know myself
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If the Butts works for them financially they'd be mad to persist with a ground on the edge of town.
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #205
Is there any details of their new ground online, be interested to take a look. Do they own the land and our developing their own ground or are they waiting on someone else to build it and they will use it?
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #206
chiefdave said:
Is there any details of their new ground online, be interested to take a look. Do they own the land and our developing their own ground or are they waiting on someone else to build it and they will use it?
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I may be wrong, but as I understand it, Persimmon own the land and as part of the planning permission had to build a new pavilion and pitch (pitches?), there's some info online that suggests that AGCO agreed to lease it from Persimmon, as Persimmon were reluctant to commit to the build cost before getting someone else to take on the management, but it is quite old, so maybe this has changed.

As others have said they have apparently since discovered a huge cable (elec I think) that wasn't on any drawings, and serves most of that side of Cov, and they are trying to figure out what to do.
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #207
If its Persimmon I wouldn't be holding my breath that it will ever happen. They are probably doing their upmost to get out of it and the cable could be their perfect excuse - too expensive to work around.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 12, 2016
  • #208
letsallsingtogether said:
So Coventry Utd can find a new home and afford to upgrade but we can't.
Fuck me just sell some pies
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Rather just sell the pies if you don't mind? No offence

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Sep 13, 2016
  • #209
rupert_bear said:
Should they get promotion what
division do they go in ?
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They're in non league division 5 at the Moment which has about 20leagues through the country at same level.
They'll go into a larger regional league spread over 6 leagues.
They'll need a nice shiny coach next year I would imagine.
If Im honest this year they won't go up, they need more investment / Fans etc, and they're already 14 points off top after 7 games. They need a real revival if they want to go up
 

Captain Dart

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  • Sep 13, 2016
  • #210
Pipehitterz said:
They're in non league division 5 at the Moment which has about 20leagues through the country at same level.
They'll go into a larger regional league spread over 6 leagues.
They'll need a nice shiny coach next year I would imagine.
If Im honest this year they won't go up, they need more investment / Fans etc, and they're already 14 points off top after 7 games. They need a real revival if they want to go up
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I think this season will be a stutter while they get their act together, they just recruited Ben Mackey (ex CCFC) from Leamington and they already have Kevin Thornton (ex CCFC and Nandos) on the books, I still reckon they'll finish in the top 5 or 6. The policy seems to be to pull in a few players of higher standard than the league to be able to push for promotion, it requires funding but that is the owners choice. At some point the cost will outstrip their resources but I imagine they have a plan to handle that situation.

FYI Non league tier 5 is League tier 9 and city are in tier 3.
 
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