But filtering it all down to wherever the FL duristriction ends...there will eventually be one less club. So the FL would award the said share to the most appropriate club beyond that & let them into the fold wouldn't they? Or are you suggesting that instead of 92 (or whatever it is now) clubs they would chug along with 91?I would think it's more likely that it would just save someone from relegation at the end of said season to readdress the numbers.
Experienced businessmen who have made a penny or two, Coventry City Football Club is a business isn't it?What makes you think that out of interest? What makes you think that just because they can do it in non league and then make the step up?
Personally I don't think they can and like Grendel says I don't think they'd know where to start.
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I'd be surprised if it took Cov Utd more than a couple of years to get out of the MFL prem. They likely have more resources than most. Think they will find their level at one of the next two levels though. Unlikely to ever get football league unless they grow. It's not unusual for new teams to be formed in non league. They are no threat to CCFC.
Why didn't they buy Sphinx? Maybe they weren't for sale! Sphinx had a promotion opportunity a few years back but their ground failed grading for the next level. This is reality for clubs at this level.
I'll happily follow the results of any Coventry club, however, the city is unlikely to ever have more than one football league club. Nuneaton have more chance and that is slim.
No they would promote an extra conference team, or not relegate a L2 team. That would work all the way down the pyramid so if a phoenix CCFC were then given the share we'd start in West Midlands Division 2 playing the likes of Bewdley Reserves and Tipton Youth.But filtering it all down to wherever the FL duristriction ends...there will eventually be one less club. So the FL would award the said share to the most appropriate club beyond that & let them into the fold wouldn't they? Or are you suggesting that instead of 92 (or whatever it is now) clubs they would chug along with 91?
Why would they need to buy Sphinx, could have just invested in them.Why didn't they buy Sphinx? Maybe they weren't for sale! Sphinx had a promotion opportunity a few years back but their ground failed grading for the next level. This is reality for clubs at this level.
No they would promote an extra conference team, or not relegate a L2 team. That would work all the way down the pyramid so if a phoenix CCFC were then given the share we'd start in West Midlands Division 2 playing the likes of Bewdley Reserves and Tipton Youth.
I've been saying to my Father in law for months now (he thinks I'm talking shit), that it almost feels like CCC and Wasps are strangling SISU/CCFC. Holding them to ransom almost, like SISU did with ACL. Til comes the point SISU can't stay, then wasps swoop in and say, we'll make all you problems (debts) go away. Sign here and we'll buy CCFC for £1 and you walk away debt free.I honestly think its being driven by CCC with Wasps as front seat passengers, together they are a very strong partnership and in a very strong position within the city now. I knew about Wasps way before Sisu moved the club to NTFC, a plan to move to the Ricoh had been in place for a very long time before it happened. Sisu days are numbered in this city and them moving to Northampton allowed all to gain what we see today, while Sisu thought breaking a lease contract was a great idea, the others involved were plotting the move and sealing every avenue for them to come back with no leverage around any table with any party within the city.
The above is true, which what makes me think CCC and Wasps are the instigators and have a bigger plan, what the plan or overall outcome is i would be guessing then?. And this is where me a a certain few disagree, time will tell us all, but something is going to change and a decision or action to force Sisu out will become very clear. Remember Sisu have said it already "the club is being forced out" they have worded it as the club, the ones forcing it are quietly doing it as "forcing Sisu out".
Nick will be onto me again but time will make me out to be a liar or a David Icke follower!! either way im not really bothered, we will still be in the shit but all still want the club to be the best it can be.
I've been saying to my Father in law for months now (he thinks I'm talking shit), that it almost feels like CCC and Wasps are strangling SISU/CCFC. Holding them to ransom almost, like SISU did with ACL. Til comes the point SISU can't stay, then wasps swoop in and say, we'll make all you problems (debts) go away. Sign here and we'll buy CCFC for £1 and you walk away debt free.
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Rupert have you been drinking, any true fan of CCFC would never contemplate changing allegience. Infact no fan of any club would suddenly support someone else ,it just wouldn't happen ,maybe one or two fair weather fans could but no true fan would ever. I would rather clean the the local sewer system with a toothbrush than watch Cov UtdI was told the other day Cov United are 4 promotions from the Football League haven't checked, ccfc are just 2 relegations from non league, there is a real possibility of ccfc being refused the Golden Share over the ground issue. I was also told they, Cov United, are actively seeking a big bucks investor, i think a Cov United club overtaking ccfc a distinct possibility, far fetched ? not really look at how Wimbledon FC have reclimbed football pyramid. Would current ccfc fans except it, well there ain't many left is there and lapsed fans would soon get interested in a local club doing well and possibly at the Ricoh. Out of the two football clubs Cov City or Cov United which would be the most attractive to one of the 596 Chinese
billionaires out there ?
But The debts are owed by CCFC (otium) or whatever too SISU or Arvo masterfund orI've been saying to my Father in law for months now (he thinks I'm talking shit), that it almost feels like CCC and Wasps are strangling SISU/CCFC. Holding them to ransom almost, like SISU did with ACL. Til comes the point SISU can't stay, then wasps swoop in and say, we'll make all you problems (debts) go away. Sign here and we'll buy CCFC for £1 and you walk away debt free.
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Rupert have you been drinking, any true fan of CCFC would never contemplate changing allegience. Infact no fan of any club would suddenly support someone else ,it just wouldn't happen ,maybe one or two fair weather fans could but no true fan would ever.
Exactly. Somewhere down the line there would be a spare golden share to distribute to a worthy club.No they would promote an extra conference team, or not relegate a L2 team. That would work all the way down the pyramid so if a phoenix CCFC were then given the share we'd start in West Midlands Division 2 playing the likes of Bewdley Reserves and Tipton Youth.
In reality if it was a serious plan like AFC Wimbledon we'd probably be dropped in around the same level Cov Utd and Sphinx are currently at.
If the club ceases to exist that will be it the share won't be reallocated to someone else so the only way they would get it is by buying the club, presumably out of administration. What you're describing is a similar manner to how the Pompey supporters trust took over, the league told the administrator they would not consider issuing the golden share to any other potential buyer.
But you also take on the debt, sure it will probably be on a pence in the pound basis but there will still be debt. And you will inherit all the player contracts and, if there is one in place at the time, any stadium contract.
So lets say SISU walk away at the end of the season and Cov United buy the club out of administration. What happens then? We still don't have an academy base, we still don't have a stadium deal, we're still a L1 club without access to revenues other clubs have.
whilst i believe this in my heart, and ive always believed that you only choose 1 team in lifeRupert have you been drinking, any true fan of CCFC would never contemplate changing allegience. Infact no fan of any club would suddenly support someone else ,it just wouldn't happen ,maybe one or two fair weather fans could but no true fan would ever. I would rather clean the the local sewer system with a toothbrush than watch Cov Utd
I would go and play golf personally
But filtering it all down to wherever the FL duristriction ends...there will eventually be one less club. So the FL would award the said share to the most appropriate club beyond that & let them into the fold wouldn't they? Or are you suggesting that instead of 92 (or whatever it is now) clubs they would chug along with 91?
...onwards & upwards PUSB
Just had a look at their web site.
They have an academy.
Is that normal for a semi pro team?
Why would they need to buy Sphinx, could have just invested in them.
knowing them, i dont think it was anything other than the love of football , hatred of sisu, and something to invest inI can't help but wonder if the United owners have done all this in anticipation of CCFC being liquidated at some point to get the jump on the league pyramid for a phoenix club. CCFC get liquidated, United change name to something like AFC CCFC and change colours to sky blue etc. but not having to start as low down the pyramid as they had the jump on the unfolding situation. The owners are CCFC supporters after all and let's face it SISU liquidating CCFC isn't beyond the realms of possibilities. A contingency plan from a group of fans if you like.
knowing them, i dont think it was anything other than the love of football , hatred of sisu, and something to invest in
I think that is precisely why Coventry United were formed, when was it ? around Northampton time wasn't it and look how far they have come in so short time and the big thing for me is they are going to be using a stadium apparently with football league approval, that is very significant to me.I can't help but wonder if the United owners have done all this in anticipation of CCFC being liquidated at some point to get the jump on the league pyramid for a phoenix club. CCFC get liquidated, United change name to something like AFC CCFC and change colours to sky blue etc. but not having to start as low down the pyramid as they had the jump on the unfolding situation. The owners are CCFC supporters after all and let's face it SISU liquidating CCFC isn't beyond the realms of possibilities. A contingency plan from a group of fans if you like.
As things stand I think there is little chance of saving our club, the writing is very much on the wall my friend. I have doubts there will be any agreement with our owners for use of the Ricoh, in fact what if Cov United expressed an interest in renting the Ricoh, don't laugh, we are currently paying just £100k a year, chicken feed really. The people funding C.Utd. can easily find that and more.though I will never watch them and think the whole thing is an ego trip, I can't deny they've done a good job.
I can't claim to know those involved but I have been in the company of one of them a few times and he was/is City mad and came across as a sound enough lad, it's a shame they couldn't have put their talents to mending the rifts in our support because we have no chance of saving our club if that doesn't happen.
As things stand I think there is little chance of saving our club, the writing is very much on the wall my friend. I have doubts there will be any agreement with our owners for use of the Ricoh, in fact what if Cov United expressed an interest in renting the Ricoh, don't laugh, we are currently paying just £100k a year, chicken feed really. The people funding C.Utd. can easily find that and more.
Echo's my thoughts too Tony.I can't help but wonder if the United owners have done all this in anticipation of CCFC being liquidated at some point to get the jump on the league pyramid for a phoenix club. CCFC get liquidated, United change name to something like AFC CCFC and change colours to sky blue etc. but not having to start as low down the pyramid as they had the jump on the unfolding situation. The owners are CCFC supporters after all and let's face it SISU liquidating CCFC isn't beyond the realms of possibilities. A contingency plan from a group of fans if you like.
It most certainly will initially, but when you plant seeds they grow, what better way to do things, play at BPA for a couple of seasons or so, try to grow with the knowledge of a purpose built stadium up for grabs one day.It will look even emptier than on a Wasps playing day with sub 500 rattling around in there
I can't help but wonder if the United owners have done all this in anticipation of CCFC being liquidated at some point to get the jump on the league pyramid for a phoenix club. CCFC get liquidated, United change name to something like AFC CCFC and change colours to sky blue etc. but not having to start as low down the pyramid as they had the jump on the unfolding situation. The owners are CCFC supporters after all and let's face it SISU liquidating CCFC isn't beyond the realms of possibilities. A contingency plan from a group of fans if you like.
You do realise Cov Utd are backed by wealthy people? Cov Sphinx are mainly run by volunteers like and go by the takings from their clubhouse etc. United just buy their way up the leagues. Will fall apart soon enough when they cannot sustain their continued sucess with 150 fans.The Sphinx have been around forever. They have no ambition and are going nowhere. Cov United at least want to get somewhere. Coventry need a viable second club, lots of cities and towns smaller than us have them.
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