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shmmeee

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #281
Covkid1968# said:
I drive 10 mins and I get a tram into Nottingham City centre....every city just seems to be better at everything than ours!! Its infuriating.
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Why there’s always been so much opposition to trams in Cov I’ll never know. Every city I’ve been to with one just makes things so much easier. We are awful for them in this country partly cos our stupid planning laws make everything so expensive to build.
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #282
Nick said:
The tram is so much easier, just pull up at Clifton and jump on the tram for £5.50 or whatever for the day.
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yes that's exactly where I catch it from - thats 10 mins from my house. So easy.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #283
chiefdave said:
HS2 on the route I go. They've currently got the road I take closed for a month to join the existing road to a new road. Closed for a month for less than a metre of tarmac!

Added bonus the 3 shortest / quickest alternative routes have all been closed at the same time. My best option now is down the A45 towards Rugby but that means getting caught at BP island which is bad enough at the moment but now there's signs up saying Leamington Road is being closed in Feb.
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Need to get these bad boys over here.

 
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napolimp

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #284
Nick said:
Yep, there's roadworks everywhere.

If you try go to through Longford, it backs up from Blue Ribbon island down to pretty much by Longford Park.

If you go A444 then it is standstill from near the Ricoh to Blue Ribbon

If you go across via Ash Green / Holbrooks then there's roadworks there too so it's gridlocked.

If you try to go the other way through Aldermans Green / Bell Green then there's roadworks there plus people trying to avoid the other traffic.

If you try to be clever and jump on the M6, it takes ages to get from Novotel to the M6 island and then you hit the Hospital Traffic.
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The A444 needs to be a continuous dual carriageway without roundabouts. The whole point is it's supposed to take traffic from the M6 to the centre of the city, but it keeps coming to grinding halt at junctions. Just have it flow with a few slip roads on and off along the way.
 
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San Francisco

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #285
chiefdave said:
HS2 on the route I go. They've currently got the road I take closed for a month to join the existing road to a new road. Closed for a month for less than a metre of tarmac!
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It really is an enigma as to why this country takes so long to get roadworks done. A452 - Queensway in Leamington will take up to a year to expand a roundabout. Madness.
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #286
shmmeee said:
Why there’s always been so much opposition to trams in Cov I’ll never know. Every city I’ve been to with one just makes things so much easier. We are awful for them in this country partly cos our stupid planning laws make everything so expensive to build.
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When I was living there it seemed it was everyone in Earlsdon campaigning against them cos of the months of disruption it’d cause when they were digging up the roads. Daft.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #287
Terry_dactyl said:
When I was living there it seemed it was everyone in Earlsdon campaigning against them cos of the months of disruption it’d cause when they were digging up the roads. Daft.
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Yeah I found an old ECHO at my parents from like the 90s complaining about a proposed tram.
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #288
shmmeee said:
Yeah I found an old ECHO at my parents from like the 90s complaining about a proposed tram.
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There posters up all over the place…’Stop the Tram’ or something.
Would be interesting to see how much impact a campaign from people from other areas such as Wood End or Hillfields etc might’ve had. None I’d imagine.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #289
The thing with Trams is that they have to go off road a lot. The one in Nottingham uses the roads a bit but then hammers it off road on tracks to get past the traffic.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #290
Nick said:
The thing with Trams is that they have to go off road a lot. The one in Nottingham uses the roads a bit but then hammers it off road on tracks to get past the traffic.
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Coventry's arterial routes in general are quite wide, there are pavements, grass verges and then road space. There is potentially room for a tram running on a central reservation alongside traffic in some places I'm sure.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #291
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #292
Nick said:
The thing with Trams is that they have to go off road a lot. The one in Nottingham uses the roads a bit but then hammers it off road on tracks to get past the traffic.
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There is obviously a belief there is room or why are we wasting money developing the VLR. Although I'm not entirely sure why we're reinventing the wheel and can't use one of the many existing systems.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #293
chiefdave said:
There is obviously a belief there is room or why are we wasting money developing the VLR. Although I'm not entirely sure why we're reinventing the wheel and can't use one of the many existing systems.
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Are we even still developing the VLR?

I think the answer there is it’s easier to get central govt to fund a research project than an infrastructure project. And even then they keep threatening to cancel it
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #294
shmmeee said:
Are we even still developing the VLR?
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Earlier this week the council approved 220 metres of track being installed from the Warwick Road / Greyfriars Road roundabout to Ikea.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #295
shmmeee said:
Are we even still developing the VLR?

I think the answer there is it’s easier to get central govt to fund a research project than an infrastructure project. And even then they keep threatening to cancel it
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A constant on every single thread, fuck me have you not got anything better to do
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #296
chiefdave said:
Earlier this week the council approved 220 metres of track being installed from the Warwick Road / Greyfriars Road roundabout to Ikea.
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Is that instead of the test track that was supposed to go from pool meadow to the station (I think)? Bit of a random route to build.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #297
shmmeee said:
Is that instead of the test track that was supposed to go from pool meadow to the station (I think)? Bit of a random route to build.
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Its on the same route so I guess they're starting with one small bit and then if that works adding to it.

Presumably will just be running empty as nobody is going to use it for an actual journey. Maybe one trip just to see what its like if you're interested in that sort of thing.
 
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Marty

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #298
shmmeee said:
Is that instead of the test track that was supposed to go from pool meadow to the station (I think)? Bit of a random route to build.
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Probably quite a good spot for ease of expansion with the future redevelopment going on in spon end, and it works quite nicely in that they can split into a few areas of the city quite easily if needed.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #299
Marty said:
Probably quite a good spot for ease of expansion with the future redevelopment going on in spon end, and it works quite nicely in that they can split into a few areas of the city quite easily if needed.
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Just trying to work out how it fits into this, I assumed it would go out Kenilwirth Road to Warwick Uni but maybe not. Also well aware this is probably Andy Street fantasy.

 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #300
shmmeee said:
Just trying to work out how it fits into this, I assumed it would go out Kenilwirth Road to Warwick Uni but maybe not. Also well aware this is probably Andy Street fantasy.

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Is that going to be 2 way or do you have to go round the loop?

The Notts one just has a single route going straight in 4 directions and then goes back and forth on that.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #301
Nick said:
Is that going to be 2 way or do you have to go round the loop?

The Notts one just has a single route going straight in 4 directions and then goes back and forth on that.
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It looks like a loop doesn’t it? I’m not sure it’s much more than drawings on a map though TBH.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #302
You just know the Arena line will never get built.
 
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napolimp

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #303
chiefdave said:
Earlier this week the council approved 220 metres of track being installed from the Warwick Road / Greyfriars Road roundabout to Ikea.
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That's lucky, I live at Shortland Horne estate agents, and work on the top floor of the IKEA building.
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #304
shmmeee said:
Why there’s always been so much opposition to trams in Cov I’ll never know. Every city I’ve been to with one just makes things so much easier. We are awful for them in this country partly cos our stupid planning laws make everything so expensive to build.
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Park and ride with trams are brilliant in Nottingham.
 
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mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #305
It's a bit chicken and egg with the city centre and housing, and a roll of the dice. Hard to get a city centre thriving with next to no good housing in it. It might work. Lots of people commute from Cov for work so with the development being near the station, that probably forms part of the thinking. Also gives recent grads somewhere to buy or rent. Feels like a good idea to me. Here's hoping!
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #306
shmmeee said:
You just know the Arena line will never get built.
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Is that Andy Streets plan or the VLR? Pretty sure the Cov bit was the last bit planned to be built of Streets plan so I wouldn't be confident we get any of it.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #307
chiefdave said:
Is that Andy Streets plan or the VLR? Pretty sure the Cov bit was the last bit planned to be built of Streets plan so I wouldn't be confident we get any of it.
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I think Street just copied and pasted the VLR on once he realised he’d forgotten about Coventry again. Not that the new guy is any better.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #308
shmmeee said:
Just trying to work out how it fits into this, I assumed it would go out Kenilwirth Road to Warwick Uni but maybe not. Also well aware this is probably Andy Street fantasy.

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Genuine dream. It would seriously improve the city but realistically it won't happen for decades.
 
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Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #309
San Francisco said:
It really is an enigma as to why this country takes so long to get roadworks done. A452 - Queensway in Leamington will take up to a year to expand a roundabout. Madness.
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They've been working on the Blue Ribbon roundabout on the Foleshill Road since August and all they're doing is adding cycle ways and a footpath and traffic light redesign. Apparently it is not scheduled to finish till March

Council starts work on Blue Ribbon roundabout

Work on the roundabout will take place between 7. 30am and 4
coventryobserver.co.uk
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #310
Captain Dart said:
They've been working on the Blue Ribbon roundabout on the Foleshill Road since August and all they're doing is adding cycle ways and a footpath and traffic light redesign. Apparently it is not scheduled to finish till March

Council starts work on Blue Ribbon roundabout

Work on the roundabout will take place between 7. 30am and 4
coventryobserver.co.uk
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Of course it should have been done at the inception, all that euro money I'm sure it would have been waved through!
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #311
wingy said:
Of course it should have been done at the inception, all that euro money I'm sure it would have been waved through!
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The Japs would have completed it in 2 weeks.
Perpetual motion those guys.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #312
CovValleyBoy said:
The Japs would have completed it in 2 weeks.
Perpetual motion those guys.
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The Chinese are the go to but I don't think it would go down well internationally?
 
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CovValleyBoy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #313
wingy said:
The Chinese are the go to but I don't think it would go down well internationally?
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Haha there would be trains running on HS2 by now surely ?
I watched Japanese construction workers on a site in Tokyo.
No let up , honestly.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #314
wingy said:
The Chinese are the go to but I don't think it would go down well internationally?
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Not sure people would be happy throwing slaves at a job until it’s done tbf
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2025
  • #315
chiefdave said:
Earlier this week the council approved 220 metres of track being installed from the Warwick Road / Greyfriars Road roundabout to Ikea.
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