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  • Start date Sep 23, 2024
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Marty

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  • Sep 26, 2024
  • #36
I'd be tempted to experiment with upto 3 on the half way line. Treat it like an attacking set piece, potentially loads you could do with it and the runs players make. Just need the keeper to win the ball and get it up field as quick as possible. MVE, Bassette and BTA are obvious choices. Probably want to keep Wright and Simms defending.
 

no_loyalty

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  • Sep 26, 2024
  • #37
Marty said:
I'd be tempted to experiment with upto 3 on the half way line. Treat it like an attacking set piece, potentially loads you could do with it and the runs players make. Just need the keeper to win the ball and get it up field as quick as possible. MVE, Bassette and BTA are obvious choices. Probably want to keep Wright and Simms defending.
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We did that a few seasons ago and it was great to see, it’s the first time I remember seeing a team leave three up when defending a corner. Depending on who is in our starting lineup we have a few options available, MVE, Sakamoto, Thomas-Asante, DaSilva.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #38
I think Simms as its a different option can hold it up if need be or flick it on for Tatsu
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #39
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I think Simms as its a different option can hold it up if need be or flick it on for Tatsu
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Except he's required defensively or is he?
Then BTA has got to be on the pitch before he can carry the roleetc!
 
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skyblue025

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #40
I'd leave our 2 quickest players up. MVE and 1 other both right on the wings meaning the defenders would have too spread wide to cover them. Could play it into feet or in behind for them to run onto.
 

grahamparsons68

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #41
5-2-3
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #42
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Sakamoto I can understand. Simms is big so can help defend. Leaving up at least one of the smaller players I'd definitely agree with, especially if they had pace.
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Last week we had brought Jamie Allen back for corners, make it make sense.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #43
Marty said:
I'd be tempted to experiment with upto 3 on the half way line. Treat it like an attacking set piece, potentially loads you could do with it and the runs players make. Just need the keeper to win the ball and get it up field as quick as possible. MVE, Bassette and BTA are obvious choices. Probably want to keep Wright and Simms defending.
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Said on another thread, and it would be mental, but if you left 7 up for corners it could theoretically mean the opposition have only one man in the box to attack the corner.

Probably wouldn’t play out like that and I wouldn’t suggest sticking all 7 on the halfway line, but it’d be funny as fuck to see in action.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #44
At the very very least keep Simms up front and then Eccles or Allen on the edge of the area, ready to move it to simms if it deflects there way.

The way we defend corners is way to static and doesn’t often reflect the nature of the opponent point in case against Keffier Moore last year we got Jay Dasilva to mark him and they had a three header.

Don’t mind using your best two defenders to mark zones but the rest should be man marking. Also putting people on the edge of the area with one top up ready to spring.

Seems to me too many second balls don’t get cleared and I think that’s cause everyone is so deep.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #45
SBAndy said:
Said on another thread, and it would be mental, but if you left 7 up for corners it could theoretically mean the opposition have only one man in the box to attack the corner.

Probably wouldn’t play out like that and I wouldn’t suggest sticking all 7 on the halfway line, but it’d be funny as fuck to see in action.
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Something else I saw as interesting but whacky would be subbing off the keeper for another outfield player in the last 5 minutes if you were a goal down.
 
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nunchuckas

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #46
There must be a reason why so many teams don't leave a couple of players up...

To us mere idiots, it seems like an absolute no brainer to leave 2 up so they have to keep 3 back.

I genuinely want to hear from someone in the football world at least what the logic is against this, if not, why it isn't the bet thing to do.
 

Marty

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #47
nunchuckas said:
There must be a reason why so many teams don't leave a couple of players up...

To us mere idiots, it seems like an absolute no brainer to leave 2 up so they have to keep 3 back.

I genuinely want to hear from someone in the football world at least what the logic is against this, if not, why it isn't the bet thing to do.
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Must be some stats to back up that approach to corners. Could just be to get enough bodies in the way and hopefully something bounces of them and then defend the second phase.
 

SBAndy

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #48
Marty said:
Must be some stats to back up that approach to corners. Could just be to get enough bodies in the way and hopefully something bounces of them and then defend the second phase.
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I’d imagine it’s denial of space in the first phase and then drawing as many opponents up the pitch as possible to give a counter opportunity. I don’t think it plays out that way, certainly not for us!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #49
Another thing is we never win the second balls. We just try and defend the set piece then just wait in position and let the opposition have another go.

If you're putting players on the edge of the box at least make sure they're looking to win those and break.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #50
SBAndy said:
Said on another thread, and it would be mental, but if you left 7 up for corners it could theoretically mean the opposition have only one man in the box to attack the corner.

Probably wouldn’t play out like that and I wouldn’t suggest sticking all 7 on the halfway line, but it’d be funny as fuck to see in action.
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They'd definitely be trying to exploit that but maybe not with the current trend of trying to walk it into the net Hmm walking footballs got a ring to it.
The era of Pep will soon be over I fear, hope, get prepared for the shift that will occur!
 
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gspotgaz

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #51
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Another thing is we never win the second balls. We just try and defend the set piece then just wait in position and let the opposition have another go.

If you're putting players on the edge of the box at least make sure they're looking to win those and break.
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Yeah this absolutely baffles me. We’re just waiting for them to get the second balls and hoping we don’t concede
 
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