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Councillor Kevin Maton (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Mar 29, 2013
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mrtrench

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  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #36
Kevin Maton has been a member of the Labour party for 32 years. Is it any wonder that he does not agree with private ownership? Jeez.
 

CCFC_GT

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #37
Jack Griffin said:
He is a conservative counciller!
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Err ... actually he is a Labour councillor
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #38
CCFC_GT said:
Err ... actually he is a Labour councillor
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Got confused with Kevin Foster, drat should check b4 post!
 
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japandy

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #39
32 year as a councillor? Isn't that against what democracy is all about?


I would agree with all the pro-comments if it wasnt for the fact he i on a 'personal mission' as he and JS dont get on. His motivation is based on revenge.
 
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Tonylinc

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #40
Listening to his phone call to CWR I too am concerned that the Council will not sell their share in the stadium. If you remember they came to the party very late when it was clear CCFC could not afford to continue the project. I cannot recall exactly how much they invested BUT it was surely not intended that they should hold on to the asset for any great time. Was it not supposedly a short term solution?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #41
Tonylinc said:
Listening to his phone call to CWR I too am concerned that the Council will not sell their share in the stadium. If you remember they came to the party very late when it was clear CCFC could not afford to continue the project. I cannot recall exactly how much they invested BUT it was surely not intended that they should hold on to the asset for any great time. Was it not supposedly a short term solution?
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Blimey the penny really is dropping tonight isn't it. Lets see what next few weeks brings.
 

Baginton

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  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #42
what have the council put in, the initial £10m what else?
I don't know the history, any info to fill me in would be great.
 
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japandy

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #43
The council and their company ACL put us into admin and then 'sod off' because they know they cant do much else.
 

WestEndAgro

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  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #44
Due to slander, defamation and libel I shall not name names but I have had the miss fortune of dealing with a certain individual who may or may not have been mentioned in this thread, or a similar thread, or a completely different thread, but if they said it was raining, I would have to go out and check for myself.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #45
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/p0166qdt

catch the last 5 mins 55 mins in!
 
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skyblue1523

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  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #46
coundonskyblue said:
No we don't. We need to get rid of Sisu first, then deal with the other problems later.
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The biggest problem is the arena without it all ccfc are doing is feeding a black hole
 

katzenjammer

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #47
It just seems to me like the council want their pound of flesh from the football club. It's been this way for years evidently and they're reluctant to let go.

Like them or not, SISU are actually the first owners of the football club to stand up an do something about it. Owning the stadium is a must for the future of the club.
 

skybluegnome

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #48
Black6Osprey said:
Only caught a bit of this guy on CWR on way back from game. He was the last caller and pretty much got cut short but from what I heard, the council do not agree that the stadium should ever be in the complete control of the football club and they should only ever get a share. He cited our failure to look after Highfield Road as why the club shouldn't have full ownership.

Didn't get a good vibe listening to this as I still believe full ownership is the only real way forward.
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Which is why no one will ever invest in us....ACL/CCC see it as a cash cow...so will never give up their share...Maton only got cut off because it was the end of the programme.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #49
This is not good for prospective purchasers of the club. The only option then mr Councillor is for Coventry City Council to buy the whole club if they do not want anyone else to own it. That would be a political nightmare.

Cov Council must let go if the club is to progress. They cannot have it both ways. Wanting to get rid of SISU does not give them the mandate to keep hold of the stadium for the lease period.. Surely they will have to sell?
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #50
The Council owning the club? How will that be seen by the electorate?
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #51
Tonylinc said:
The Council owning the club? How will that be seen by the electorate?
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Exactly....The Council need to sell.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #52
Grendel said:
Blimey the penny really is dropping tonight isn't it. Lets see what next few weeks brings.
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What's the penny?? That no one can be trusted?? Not too sure what you mean?
 

grego_gee

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  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #53
Grendel said:
Blimey the penny really is dropping tonight isn't it. Lets see what next few weeks brings.
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imp:
 

Covcraig@bury

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #54
This is why we need a new ground. Ccfc need to own all of it or we may as well turn the lights out and call it a day.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #55
Covcraig@bury said:
This is why we need a new ground. Ccfc need to own all of it or we may as well turn the lights out and call it a day.
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Get real, where the fuck are you going to put a new ground ?
 

coundonskyblue

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  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #56
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Covcraig@bury said:
This is why we need a new ground. Ccfc need to own all of it or we may as well turn the lights out and call it a day.
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We dont need to own the ground, we only need to own acl.
 
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logjoe

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  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #57
Everyone lets put things right what exactly has the council ever done that is good in this city NOTHING. Since the stadium has been up they have invested zero. Thet are expecting someone just to stroll up and invest in hotels and other capital projects around the stadium whilst they get an invested share. If whoever might come in and buy the club will do nothing until they have a guarantee if a return and they will never put up all the money to see half the return go to ACL. They should do exactly what the government has done with the o2 and the olympic stadium put a stupid figure they wont in return each year and right it into the agreement about any future sails. Because lets face upto this if it stays this way soon they are going to have to make a major investment in the upkeep becuase the place is becoming a dump
 
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shropshirecov

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  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #58
mrtrench said:
Kevin Maton has been a member of the Labour party for 32 years. Is it any wonder that he does not agree with private ownership? Jeez.
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Here lies the problem. He's not alone with that view in ccc. Plenty on here support him.
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #59
A personal view.
I would not want o be Mutton, he is a very loyal City fan but has to wear his council hat sometimes.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #60
I disagreed with him when he said that the club shouldn't ultimately become owners-when that is what PWKH called for just a week beforehand. The very least we should be aiming for is that 50% shareholding.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #61
Unfortunately SISU's running of the club has undermined the concept if one person owning the Ricoh

As has the running of the club at Highfield Road.

Owning 50 % of the Ricoh could still pay big dividends
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #62
dongonzalos said:
Unfortunately SISU's running of the club has undermined the concept if one person owning the Ricoh

As has the running of the club at Highfield Road.

Owning 50 % of the Ricoh could still pay big dividends
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Not that big. It only made £1m last year and that was with the club paying £1.3m rent. Yes debts and mortgage been restructured but other than giving a revenue stream against FFP, in actual fact it's going to offer much actual income to support the playing budget.
 

Black6Osprey

New Member
  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #63
stupot07 said:
Not that big. It only made £1m last year and that was with the club paying £1.3m rent. Yes debts and mortgage been restructured but other than giving a revenue stream against FFP, in actual fact it's going to offer much actual income to support the playing budget.
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I agree that's the thing that amazes me. If the Ricoh was making £10m profit I could understand the councils view but £1m and that's with rent being payed?? What's the big deal, in the scheme of Government spending its nothing.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #64
The main thing for the club is to remain at the Ricoh on reduced rent ie 400k pa, getting benefit of the match day revenues for FFP. I believe this was/is on offer. If bloody Walsall can survive on paying more than that for their rent , no reason we can't..

If we could own half or all of the stadium, even better but lots of clubs don't own their grounds and do ok, it's the level of the rent and matchday revenues that are important.

I don't really like the counsellors attitude though, it might put off potential investors which goes against why acl went for admin of the club in the first place.

He should've kept his mouth shut, said they would consider all options but are mindful of protecting the tax payers and the supporters interests.

Unfortunately politicians can't help but stick their noses in !
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #65
Well that's let the ACL/CCC cat out of the bag then, hasn't it? The elephant in the room (or the elephant in the City) is that ACL/CCC will never sell to any owner of the football club. Although they expect the football club to regenerate the surrounding area for them.
 
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shropshirecov

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  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #66
torchomatic said:
Well that's let the ACL/CCC cat out of the bag then, hasn't it? The elephant in the room (or the elephant in the City) is that ACL/CCC will never sell to any owner of the football club. Although they expect the football club to regenerate the surrounding area for them.
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Spot on. Why aren't City supporting council tax payers up in arms over this?
 

coundonskyblue

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  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #67
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shropshirecov said:
Spot on. Why aren't City supporting council tax payers up in arms over this?
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Because 1 councillors opinion doesn't make it council policy.
 

BrisbaneBronco

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #68
torchomatic said:
Well that's let the ACL/CCC cat out of the bag then, hasn't it? The elephant in the room (or the elephant in the City) is that ACL/CCC will never sell to any owner of the football club. Although they expect the football club to regenerate the surrounding area for them.
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Only solution is to move away from the Ricoh.
We will lose some fans who will not follow CCFC if they are outside Coventry even if it is only Rugby or Leamington. On the other hand we will also gain fans from wherever we move to.
I hope we till ACL/CCC to get stuffed:jerkit:
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #69
How do you know it's one opinion? Are you supportive of CCCs stance that they will never sell to CCFC?

coundonskyblue said:
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Because 1 councillors opinion doesn't make it council policy.
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CCFC_GT

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  • Mar 30, 2013
  • #70
CCFCSteve said:
The main thing for the club is to remain at the Ricoh on reduced rent ie 400k pa, getting benefit of the match day revenues for FFP. I believe this was/is on offer. If bloody Walsall can survive on paying more than that for their rent , no reason we can't..

If we could own half or all of the stadium, even better but lots of clubs don't own their grounds and do ok, it's the level of the rent and matchday revenues that are important.

I don't really like the counsellors attitude though, it might put off potential investors which goes against why acl went for admin of the club in the first place.

He should've kept his mouth shut, said they would consider all options but are mindful of protecting the tax payers and the supporters interests.

Unfortunately politicians can't help but stick their noses in !
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If our ambition is just to survive at this level like Walsall and remain as tenants at the Ricoh then we might as well all give up now.
 
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