Councillor Kevin Maton (3 Viewers)

Black6Osprey · Mar 29, 2013

Only caught a bit of this guy on CWR on way back from game. He was the last caller and pretty much got cut short but from what I heard, the council do not agree that the stadium should ever be in the complete control of the football club and they should only ever get a share. He cited our failure to look after Highfield Road as why the club shouldn't have full ownership.

Didn't get a good vibe listening to this as I still believe full ownership is the only real way forward.

Lord_Nampil · Mar 29, 2013

This is why I worry about our future....

Tonylinc · Mar 29, 2013

Black6Osprey said:
Only caught a bit of this guy on CWR on way back from game. He was the last caller and pretty much got cut short but from what I heard, the council do not agree that the stadium should ever be in the complete control of the football club and they should only ever get a share. He cited our failure to look after Highfield Road as why the club shouldn't have full ownership.

Didn't get a good vibe listening to this as I still believe full ownership is the only real way forward.

I fully agree with you BUT not whilst Sisu are still here!

Otis · Mar 29, 2013

It is indeed.

Fair enough for it to be someone they trust will keep it in safe hands, but to say that people shouldn't own the entire stadium is just so wrong and not the way forwards.

Tonylinc · Mar 29, 2013

Of course it is the way forward Otis BUT would you trust Sisu?

Tonylinc · Mar 29, 2013

The representative of Higgs has told us that meetings can take place, hands shook on agreements and the very next day it is as if the meetings and agreements never took place. How the hell can you deal with people like that?

Black6Osprey · Mar 29, 2013

Tonylinc said:
I fully agree with you BUT not whilst Sisu are still here!

I understand what you are saying but I don't think he was talking about SISU just in general terms.

They are almost treating it like a national treasure. I thought it was a football ground.

SkybluG · Mar 29, 2013

But they are not just saying sisu, they won't sell their share to any owner. The council are killing our club but they will he away with it while sisu are here.

luwalla · Mar 29, 2013

Lord_Nampil said:
This is why I worry about our future....

Me too.. While this council are in control of ACL & the stadium, we have problems in moving forward as a club

Lord_Nampil · Mar 29, 2013

luwalla said:
Me too.. While this council are in control of ACL & the stadium, we have problems in moving forward as a club

Comments he made IMO could scare off any potential investor, like PHIV! Keep ur mouth shut is my motto unless u know what u are saying!

coundonskyblue · Mar 29, 2013

It does depend on how he means it. If he meant the club should never own ACL then I can't support it.

If he is saying then should never own the ground then that is different. The club can get all the benefits of owning the ground by simply owning ACL. The income streams are whats important, not whose name is on the deeds.

SkybluG · Mar 29, 2013

coundonskyblue said:
It does depend on how he means it. If he meant the club should never own ACL then I can't support it.

If he is saying then should never own the ground then that is different. The club can get all the benefits of owning the ground by simply owning ACL. The income streams are whats important, not whose name is on the deeds.

Agree with you but I think he means acl which is why it has a 40 mill price tag for the council half

3D Jase · Mar 29, 2013

I personally do not trust any of them, The council will not sell 50% of the stadium due to the revenue it brings in from concerts.ect...Sisu have put £47m in but how much are they taking out in Directors pay, dividends, and then we have ACL who are in bed with the Council...

japandy · Mar 29, 2013

This started as a thread about Cllr Hutton and quickly turns into a anti SISU thread. I had a talk with my friend who worked with SISU on a few project and there are some MASSIVE stories next week about their 60m losses whaich seem to be 'other' losses.

BUT, my concern is the arrogance of the council and especially Cllr Hutton. He has now stated the council wish to be 'involved'. Id this why he was elected a councillor? So SISU sell up and are bought by the American gentlemen but then he cant buy the ground because the council wont allow, is this the scenerio that may happen?

Otis · Mar 29, 2013

Tonylinc said:
Of course it is the way forward Otis BUT would you trust Sisu?

No. But the way he was talking, he was talking as if he meant anyone, not just Sisu.

SkybluG · Mar 29, 2013

Yes, the council will be a noose around the neck of the club. We need a new ground we own, even if that means putting up with sisu for a while longer

coundonskyblue · Mar 29, 2013

japandy said:
This started as a thread about Cllr Hutton and quickly turns into a anti SISU thread. I had a talk with my friend who worked with SISU on a few project and there are some MASSIVE stories next week about their 60m losses whaich seem to be 'other' losses.

BUT, my concern is the arrogance of the council and especially Cllr Hutton. He has now stated the council wish to be 'involved'. Id this why he was elected a councillor? So SISU sell up and are bought by the American gentlemen but then he cant buy the ground because the council wont allow, is this the scenerio that may happen?

Whos Cllr Hutton?

coundonskyblue · Mar 29, 2013

SkybluG said:
Yes, the council will be a noose around the neck of the club. We need a new ground we own, even if that means putting up with sisu for a while longer

No we don't. We need to get rid of Sisu first, then deal with the other problems later.

Black6Osprey · Mar 29, 2013

He stated the club needs to be able to work with a partner. When asked the direct question of whether for the club to be successful in the future they should own the stadium he said no, we should have share as when we had HR we didnt make a very good job of it and they couldn't risk the same with the Ricoh.

This is not an attitude which will have anyone queuing up to take us over.

wingy · Mar 29, 2013

Otis said:
No. But the way he was talking, he was talking as if he meant anyone, not just Sisu.

sounded like he was talking Freehold like Coundon said .
Also said it would be beneficial to have the Trust involved with the Club.

Grendel · Mar 29, 2013

Black6Osprey said:
He stated the club needs to be able to work with a partner. When asked the direct question of whether for the club to be successful in the future they should own the stadium he said no, we should have share as when we had HR we didnt make a very good job of it and they couldn't risk the same with the Ricoh.

This is not an attitude which will have anyone queuing up to take us over.

No and this sets this club apart from all other council assisted projects.

It's time supporters woke up and realises where the biggest problem lies.

The CableGuy · Mar 29, 2013

Black6Osprey said:
I understand what you are saying but I don't think he was talking about SISU just in general terms.

They are almost treating it like a national treasure. I thought it was a football ground.

Its a lot more than a football ground.

And, didn't the Council like.....build the thing?

You can't expect them just to hand it over to CCFC, or anyone else, without certain guarantees that such a sale would benefit the City of Coventry and its citizens (including those who don't like football, let alone support CCFC).

CCFC_GT · Mar 29, 2013

coundonskyblue said:
No we don't. We need to get rid of Sisu first, then deal with the other problems later.

The trouble is that to get rid of SISU we need to attract new investors, and the Council stance of clinging on to 50% of the Ricoh will put off investors, so I don't think it will be possible to get rid of SISU first and then deal with the other problems.

covmark · Mar 29, 2013

The CableGuy said:
Its a lot more than a football ground.

And, didn't the Council like.....build the thing?

You can't expect them just to hand it over to CCFC, or anyone else, without certain guarantees that such a sale would benefit the City of Coventry and its citizens (including those who don't like football, let alone support CCFC).

No, IT IS a football ground and without ownership ccfc is going nowhere

Harry Grout · Mar 29, 2013

Sure, the Club needs to be able to work with a partner, but only one that is first and foremost fully committed to the playing success of the Club. I'm not sure any of our current 'partners' come remotely close to this ideal.

coundonskyblue · Mar 29, 2013

CCFC_GT said:
The trouble is that to get rid of SISU we need to attract new investors, and the Council stance of clinging on to 50% of the Ricoh will put off investors, so I don't think it will be possible to get rid of SISU first and then deal with the other problems.

But Sisu can't be trusted with the stadium. The Council needs to say they will sell, but only to responsible investors who will run it for the benefit of Coventry.

Jack Griffin · Mar 29, 2013

Black6Osprey said:
Only caught a bit of this guy on CWR on way back from game. He was the last caller and pretty much got cut short but from what I heard, the council do not agree that the stadium should ever be in the complete control of the football club and they should only ever get a share. He cited our failure to look after Highfield Road as why the club shouldn't have full ownership.

Didn't get a good vibe listening to this as I still believe full ownership is the only real way forward.

I agree with Maton, there has got to be a backstop to prevent the football club selling the ground and paying rent to play there. There has got to be a way that allows the club to benefit from the business they bring, whilst not seling the goose that lays the golden egg to finance over-ambitious & risky schemes.

Long term it won't be SISU anyway, they need to turn a profit & skedaddle, but they will hang on till conditions are favourable to them. So we need to see 2 things happen, SISU to turn a profit and sell to new owners & a CCFC/ACL restructure with protection for Arena ownership and a guarantee or NE Coventry development funds.

CCFC_GT · Mar 29, 2013

The CableGuy said:
Its a lot more than a football ground.

And, didn't the Council like.....build the thing?

You can't expect them just to hand it over to CCFC, or anyone else, without certain guarantees that such a sale would benefit the City of Coventry and its citizens (including those who don't like football, let alone support CCFC).

No one posting on this thread has suggested that the Council simply hands over its share of the Ricoh, however if the Council is not prepared to sell without making the massive profit it seems to be after, then CCFC has no future.

japandy · Mar 29, 2013

Why should I spell his name right? Has he shown me, the fans or the club respect? He is an overbearing power induced fool who is well matched with SISU.

mattylad · Mar 29, 2013

what a complete penis that person is....no more to be said

CCFC_GT · Mar 29, 2013

coundonskyblue said:
But Sisu can't be trusted with the stadium. The Council needs to say they will sell, but only to responsible investors who will run it for the benefit of Coventry.

Don't disagree with you, just waiting for the Council to say they are prepared to sell to responsible investors AT A REASONABLE PRICE. From Councillor Kevin Maton's comments it sounds as though he for one doesn't want to see the Council sell to ANY investors full stop.

Grendel · Mar 29, 2013

mattylad said:
what a complete penis that person is....no more to be said

Sadly many in here such as coundonskyblue and don have been duped in believing these fools are actually remotely interested in the club.

luwalla · Mar 29, 2013

The CableGuy said:
Its a lot more than a football ground.

And, didn't the Council like.....build the thing?

You can't expect them just to hand it over to CCFC, or anyone else, without certain guarantees that such a sale would benefit the City of Coventry and its citizens (including those who don't like football, let alone support CCFC).

Did the council build it? I thought the club paid the majority of the stadium costs and the council jumped in at the end when we couldn't afford to finish the project .. not sure how much money the council actually put into the stadium, but I'm pretty sure if the amounts of money put into the project were Laid out... It would be be the club top, then the Higgs charity , then the council .. Yet the council seem to be the ones with all the control . Could be wrong but that's my understanding

rob9872 · Mar 29, 2013

Just vote him out simple. Can we get some sbt members runnning for council who will give the club the stadium for free?

CCFC_GT · Mar 29, 2013

Jack Griffin said:
I agree with Maton, there has got to be a backstop to prevent the football club selling the ground and paying rent to play there. There has got to be a way that allows the club to benefit from the business they bring, whilst not seling the goose that lays the golden egg to finance over-ambitious & risky schemes.

Long term it won't be SISU anyway, they need to turn a profit & skedaddle, but they will hang on till conditions are favourable to them. So we need to see 2 things happen, SISU sell to new owners & a CCFC/ACL restructure with protection for Arena ownership and a guarantee or NE Coventry development funds.

I agree with you on this. There does need to be protection built in to any sale of the Ricoh that prevents any new owners from selling on the stadium and associated revenues and leaving CCFC as just tenants again.

Councillor Kevin Maton (3 Viewers)

New Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

New Member

New Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

New Member

New Member

New Member

New Member

Well-Known Member

New Member

New Member

New Member

New Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

New Member

Well-Known Member

Harry Grout

Guest

New Member

Jack Griffin

Guest

New Member

New Member

Member

New Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

New Member

Users who are viewing this thread

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency