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Council Tax rise (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Marty
  • Start date Mar 8, 2018
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Marty

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #1
5.3% rise, Bit excessive isn't it?

I bet the useless fuckers still won't empty my bins without me prompting them.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #2
Won’t go on bins, will go on social care like the rest of what’s left of council budgets.

You want to complain, start with the government who have decimated funding and only left this option.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #3
shmmeee said:
Won’t go on bins, will go on social care like the rest of what’s left of council budgets.

You want to complain, start with the government who have decimated funding and only left this option.
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Aren’t there any council funded projects that can be cancelled - or should never have been commissioned in the first place?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 8, 2018
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shmmeee said:
Won’t go on bins, will go on social care like the rest of what’s left of council budgets.

You want to complain, start with the government who have decimated funding and only left this option.
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Yep, with central funding cut councils are in serious trouble.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #5
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yep, with central funding cut councils are in serious trouble.
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Even Tory ones.
It's been decimated and last year through to this at least 2% of it is for social care of the elderly which has been neglected under Central funding .
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 8, 2018
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wingy said:
Even Tory ones.
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Yup.

The biggest shit will hit come 2020. You'd hope somebody will wake up and notice before then but... we'll probably still be poncing around asking stupid questions about national anthems, dress sense, Marxism, and selling state secrets...
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #7
Grendel said:
Aren’t there any council funded projects that can be cancelled - or should never have been commissioned in the first place?
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What would you suggest? Most “council projects” are a result of a bid for specific funding that is tied to that project. You can’t just (for example) take cash given as a grant for regional development and spend it on bin collection.

Not Coventry, but have a crack at this and see how you do. Does a good job of getting the point across IMO (and is out of date) You Choose - Home

The other point is capital versus ongoing expenditure. If you buy land for example, it’s an asset in the future. But money spent on wiping grannies arses stays spent. So even if you cancelled all capital expenditure to make ends meet eventually you’ll end up with nothing left to sell/cancel and still not have a balanced budget. For a football analogy see CCFC the last ten years

Most councils (Labour and Tory, it’s not party politicial this) are having trouble meeting their legal requirements for stuff like social care and child protection, it’s not frivolous spending.

IMO this all began with Osbourne trying to be cute and make (often Labour) councils take the blame for austerity. Hammond has just kicked it into overdrive in the incompetent style this government does so well.
 
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dancers lance

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #8
shmmeee said:
Won’t go on bins, will go on social care like the rest of what’s left of council budgets.

You want to complain, start with the government who have decimated funding and only left this option.
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Although the Labour Council in Coventry has made some giant, money wasting, F**k Up's over the years, all councils are being hammered at local level under this Government. I was listening to an interesting programme today about what councils are having to do to raise funds, nearly all now have departments working on business opportunities in the private sector and not just in the local area, nationwide and even abroad in some cases.
 

no_loyalty

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #9
I thought it was going to be 4.9%? they have obviously gone over budget on that city of culture bid, and increased it further
 

rob9872

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #10
Whether through Council Tax or centally you do realise we still pay it I assume? There is no free magic pot of money for the government to share out. I'm sure this is overlooked when people compain about funding cuts although as usual those who take out are rarely the ones paying in.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 8, 2018
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rob9872 said:
Whether through Council Tax or centally you do realise we still pay it I assume? There is no free magic pot of money for the government to share out. I'm sure this is overlooked when people compain about funding cuts although as usual those who take out are rarely the ones paying in.
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What the government is doing is not keeping to what it said it would do, which was to let councils keep 100% of business rates. Even that wouldn't be enough, but it would be something.

It's an ideological attempt to crush public services, nowt to do with a magic money tree or otherwise. The government makes a choice what to do, and our current one decides to cut the supply of cash to local services, but allow local government to take the blame.

There'll also be plenty of people out of work if this continues to happen, not paying in...
 
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Marty

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #12
Isn't it about time all these tax loop holes were closed that sees the likes of Amazon and Starbucks pay virtually nothing in.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #13
It’s 4.9% in nuneaton and would be less but for the scandalous increase from the police commissioner of 6.3% obviously the pension pot needs a good top up
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #14
wingy said:
Even Tory ones.
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.....yep.....but proportionately it's the left wing northern cities that are getting the shittiest end of the shitty stick......no alarms and no surprises.
 

Marty

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #15
Is that 'police' and ''crime commissioner' Or 'police and crime commissioner'?

In CV5, ours have the cheek to put it up 10.3% (£100 a month).
 
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dancers lance

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  • Mar 8, 2018
  • #16
Terry Gibson's perm said:
It’s 4.9% in nuneaton and would be less but for the scandalous increase from the police commissioner of 6.3% obviously the pension pot needs a good top up
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Surely the government pays a considerable amount each year to the poor people who are forced to live in Nuneaton, not the other way round?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 9, 2018
  • #17
rob9872 said:
Whether through Council Tax or centally you do realise we still pay it I assume? There is no free magic pot of money for the government to share out. I'm sure this is overlooked when people compain about funding cuts although as usual those who take out are rarely the ones paying in.
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I don't know about that. They found £1bn from somewhere for the DUP. They continue to find money to pay for their own pay rises (up 1.8% this year, double the average for other public sector workers). MPs wages have risen by nearly 18% since 2010. NHS Band 5 Nurse wages have risen 4.49% in the same period. It's a fucking scandal.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 9, 2018
  • #18
Grendel said:
Aren’t there any council funded projects that can be cancelled - or should never have been commissioned in the first place?
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49% cut in funding since 2010. Austerity starts to bite!! Wtf do you want your council to do??
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 9, 2018
  • #19
And in addition since the Pelka debacle I believe there has been a 400% increase in reports to social services. For every area of legal responsibilities the council has there is probably a similar rise in requirement and a cut of 49% in government funding since 2010. Again Grendel wtf do you expect them to do?
 
Last edited: Mar 9, 2018

italiahorse

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  • Mar 9, 2018
  • #20
You either pay it at local level or get taxed more at government level. You can't have it both ways.
Personally I would pay an extra 2% tax at national level fund social care but I believe I am in the minority.
 
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