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Council and Sky Blues in court tomorrow (2 Viewers)

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Skybluesquirrel

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #176
fernandopartridge said:
It isn't classified as a disadvantaged area in the terms described above. The formally recognised areas in England are Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly, South Yorkshire and Merseyside.
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Clicking through links on the page you get to here.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/assisted-areas-map-2014-to-2020-stage-2

According to the excel doc that downloads, Longford is included!
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2014
  • #177
Skybluesquirrel said:
Clicking through links on the page you get to here.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/assisted-areas-map-2014-to-2020-stage-2

According to the excel doc that downloads, Longford is included!
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Longford is noted as a 'c' area for the 14-20 programme (I.e. In the future) The 'a' areas are those that are explicitly permitted greater state support for companies.

That said, the document you refer to is about using government or European aid for development. It isn't about refinancing a mortgage.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2014
  • #178
Astute said:
Debt, assets, profits and future profits is what ACL has. Debt and fook all else is the outlook for CCFC whilst them jokers are in charge of our club. Massive difference Fern, but you know this.
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Which assets are these?

What profits?

I know ccfc have got fuck all, they'll always have fuck all unless some lunatic with more money than sense takes over.
 

Grendel

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #179
Astute said:
You are just acting thick. How unusual.

So if the ACL statement was false about the police costs being included in the match day costs on the free rent and 150k offer why didn't SISU say anything when they even made threats when someone added a link to a newspaper article? Why didn't they threaten ACL with litigation for it?
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Astute the link you made was from an article about an offer to the administrator and available ONLY while the club was in administration. It says it in the article,the article you showed us a link to! As soon as we were out of administration that particular offer was not there. It was the terms offered in the final 3 games of the season we were there - an offer to the administrator.
 

Astute

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #180
fernandopartridge said:
It isn't about refinancing a mortgage.
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Which is what the JR is all about.....or at least should be.
 

Astute

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #181
Grendel said:
Astute the link you made was from an article about an offer to the administrator and available ONLY while the club was in administration. It says it in the article,the article you showed us a link to! As soon as we were out of administration that particular offer was not there. It was the terms offered in the final 3 games of the season we were there - an offer to the administrator.
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If the offer was made at a different time and for different means why did Joy turn it down at the start of December 2013? If it was down to Appleton why did Joy get a say in it?
 

Astute

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #182
fernandopartridge said:
Which assets are these?

What profits?

I know ccfc have got fuck all, they'll always have fuck all unless some lunatic with more money than sense takes over.
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What profits? When did they last make a loss? They have been in profit for years now, including without rent from our football club it seems.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #183
Astute said:
What profits? When did they last make a loss? They have been in profit for years now, including without rent from our football club it seems.
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They made a profit in the year ending May 2012 of just over £1m. Included in that year was £1.2m in rent and 20+ matches from which to gain income.
The year before it was around £400k which in fairness does show year on year growth.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #184
Grendel said:
Astute the link you made was from an article about an offer to the administrator and available ONLY while the club was in administration. It says it in the article,the article you showed us a link to! As soon as we were out of administration that particular offer was not there. It was the terms offered in the final 3 games of the season we were there - an offer to the administrator.
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There was another offer made December 2013 directly to Seppala.

Sisu boss Joy Seppala turned down a deal which could have brought the Sky Blues back to the Ricoh – rent-free for the rest of the season.The offer was made by ACL before council leader Ann Lucas met for talks with Sisu boss Seppala.
It is understood the proposal could have seen the Sky Blues play rent free until the end of this season – and £100,000 for each of the next two seasons if they remained in League One.
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sky blue john

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #185
Simon Gilbert has arrived at the court for the 2pm kick off.
I expect we will get some updates.
 
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wingy

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #186
sky blue john said:
Simon Gilbert has arrived at the court for the 2pm kick off.
I expect we will get some updates.
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Will LR be there for PE?
 
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wingy

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #187
Could be a few adjournments ,what with starting post heavy/Liquid lunch.
 
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The Gentleman

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #188
fernandopartridge said:
Where are these buyers going to appear from?
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Buyers come out of the woodwork for any fire sale, in any business regardless of whether that business is a good one or not, but usually just at the right time, else they would have to pay more if they played their hand to early. As you quite rightly keep saying, we were in the shit long before our current shower of shit owners came along but they still came along at what they deemed the right time, unfortunately for us. Wished we had gone into admin back then, maybe things would be a lot different now.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2014
  • #189
Astute said:
If the offer was made at a different time and for different means why did Joy turn it down at the start of December 2013? If it was down to Appleton why did Joy get a say in it?
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She didn't they were different offers - oddly the June offer to the administrator was leaked in all its glory to the press - the details of the "free" offer has appeared on the trust Q and A website but not the cost breakdown. Either way ACL have acknowledged that the deal made to Otium excludes policing. Your link is dated June and is offered to the administrator. I would assume the administrator would not be able to pay police costs independently hence the wording of the document.
 

torchomatic

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #190
Wished we hadn't have left Highfield Road. Maybe things would be a lot different now.

The Gentleman said:
Wished we had gone into admin back then, maybe things would be a lot different now.
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chiefdave

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #191
For those not following Simon on twitter Seppala is there, 5 lawyers for CCFC, 3 for the council. Seppalas statement is 100 pages!

CCFC want access to documents for 'context'. If they win today JR will likely be delayed.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #192
Sounds like SISU want access to 2,500 documents which seems a lot.
 

Astute

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #193
Astute said:
If the offer was made at a different time and for different means why did Joy turn it down at the start of December 2013? If it was down to Appleton why did Joy get a say in it?
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Grendel said:
She didn't they were different offers - oddly the June offer to the administrator was leaked in all its glory to the press - the details of the "free" offer has appeared on the trust Q and A website but not the cost breakdown. Either way ACL have acknowledged that the deal made to Otium excludes policing. Your link is dated June and is offered to the administrator. I would assume the administrator would not be able to pay police costs independently hence the wording of the document.
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Are you sure? From your best and favourite reporter Les Reid as well

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/sisu-boss-joy-seppala-rejects-6363684
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2014
  • #194
chiefdave said:
For those not following Simon on twitter Seppala is there, 5 lawyers for CCFC, 3 for the council. Seppalas statement is 100 pages!
CCFC want access to documents for 'context'. If they win today JR will likely be delayed.
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...lets hope its just large handwriting.....


May I be the 1st to predict this whole affair will be dull as fuck & get us nowhere....

...right...back to work.
 
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The Gentleman

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #195
torchomatic said:
Wished we hadn't have left Highfield Road. Maybe things would be a lot different now.
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Agreed but at least the Ricoh is in Coventry.
 
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The Gentleman

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #196
chiefdave said:
For those not following Simon on twitter Seppala is there, 5 lawyers for CCFC, 3 for the council. Seppalas statement is 100 pages!

CCFC want access to documents for 'context'. If they win today JR will likely be delayed.
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Maybe she is trying to explain the offside rule
 

olderskyblue

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #197
chiefdave said:
For those not following Simon on twitter Seppala is there, 5 lawyers for CCFC, 3 for the council. Seppalas statement is 110 pages! with 1000 exhibits...

CCFC want access to documents for 'context'. If they win today JR will likely be delayed.
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corrected...
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2014
  • #198
The Gentleman said:
Buyers come out of the woodwork for any fire sale, in any business regardless of whether that business is a good one or not, but usually just at the right time, else they would have to pay more if they played their hand to early. As you quite rightly keep saying, we were in the shit long before our current shower of shit owners came along but they still came along at what they deemed the right time, unfortunately for us. Wished we had gone into admin back then, maybe things would be a lot different now.
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Yep. Administration then would probably mean Highfield Rd now.
 

TheRoyalScam

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2014
  • #199
chiefdave said:
For those not following Simon on twitter Seppala is there, 5 lawyers for CCFC, 3 for the council. Seppalas statement is 100 pages!

CCFC want access to documents for 'context'. If they win today JR will likely be delayed.
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@chiefdave - do you have a link to Simon's Twitter account please???
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2014
  • #200
@IloveACL

TheRoyalScam said:
@chiefdave - do you have a link to Simon's Twitter account please???
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chiefdave

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #201
@TheSimonGilbert
 

chiefdave

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #202
Judge asking why it's been left so late, SISU blame Higgs!
 
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Kingokings204

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #203
chiefdave said:
Judge asking why it's been left so late, SISU blame Higgs!
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Sisu blaming someone else?
 

Astute

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #204
chiefdave said:
Judge asking why it's been left so late, SISU blame Higgs!
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So when Higgs are in court they blame CCC and when CCC are in court they blame Higgs. And they need 5 legal people to to that!
 
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wingy

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #205
Very Late ,and now potential further delay .

What's the game .

I personally don't think they have much confidence .


Seems It's more a vehicle to throw mud,coupled with the recent Huddle groups and their reluctance to communicate what they were told .

Anything Libelous said per chance?

Circumvent the Trust ,spread the Gospel ,This Is SISU PR.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #206
The 1st thing that I have found out is that there really is a Joy Seppala.
 

olderskyblue

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #207
SISU victims of a secret plan. Mutton seen chanting SISU out at a game....
 
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wingy

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #208
olderskyblue said:
SISU victims of a secret plan. Mutton seen chanting SISU out at a game....
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Oh Dear....
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2014
  • #209
SISU are after documents relating to Mutton and Duggins. SISU say there were victim of a 'secret plan'

Request for meeting minutes when ACL loan was approved shows no minutes were kept. Notes were taken by individual councillors.
 
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The Gentleman

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  • May 14, 2014
  • #210
Astute said:
So when Higgs are in court they blame CCC and when CCC are in court they blame Higgs. And they need 5 legal people to to that!
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All playground stuff, I wish they'd just let them all in a darkened room and let them get on with it, my guess is ML is the first one on his arse.
 
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