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Could Coventry be shut out of Ricoh? (6 Viewers)

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  • Start date Aug 20, 2012
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skyblue1523

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  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #36
how can you hope that city get kicked out of league we won't sisu to go not the club must be a lester fan :jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit:
 
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PWKH

New Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #37
ACL have, I believe issued a press release.
I am somewhere down the South Oxford Canal and it is difficult to keep an internet access. The game will do ahead, rumours to the contrary are just that. I can only assume that people presume that suppliers must be anxious about getting paid and want payment up front. From that it must have been speculated by someone that if ACL weren't paid they would not supply goods, such as Safety and Food etc. It would be particularly stupid for the Club not to pay as for the most part they have already collected the money from fans: all the boxes and what is left of the corporates.
Rumours will always surround the Club until it is run properly and as a business. Let us hope that the efforts of the current management are successful.
 

CovisGod

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #38
CCFC said:
Yea me too

In fact I hope CCFC get chucked out of the league as well and also go out of existence

That would show those SISU scum
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Oh dear, spoken like a true moron,

What "fan" would want Coventry not to exist !
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #39
skyblue_rich said:
I agree, OSB, I do doubt how they can suddenly find the funds for this deal, plus more unanswered questions
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I am sure that a hedge fund would have no problem in finding investors for the Ricoh?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #40
Marty said:
I'd of chucked us out ages ago. Don't we only account for 13% (or a figure quite low) of the income ACL make, It's like if you rent out a house, I couldn't care less what happens in your life as long as I get my rent at the end of every month. If you can't pay, go and find somewhere else to live.

Just hope ACL don't cave in.
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Are you taking the piss?
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #41
Sick Boy said:
Are you taking the piss?
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Not one bit, just looking at the bigger picture, once they get there hands on that stadium, how long before the club is completely stripped of every asset and left to rot? they are still hear for one reason and one reason only.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #42
Marty said:
Not one bit, just looking at the bigger picture, once they get there hands on that stadium, how long before the club is completely stripped of every asset and left to rot? they are still hear for one reason and one reason only.
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So you would be happy for your team to be thrown out the league and then possibly face going into liquidation? I don't understand that at all. Getting our hands on the Ricoh is vital and is the only way we are ever going to break even and eventually make a profit. In the long term, it will also make us more appealing to any person interested in investing or taking over the club.

The recent way in which the club seems to be being run (this season), with the restructuring of the bonuses and finally a decent marketing department has actually been encouraging, IMO.
 

Tad

Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #43
As awful as it would be, could anyone here really blame them? SISU have refused to pay rent, leaving ACL out of pocket. If anyone of us here rented a flat out and they stopped paying you'd do the same thing.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #44
CovisGod said:
Oh dear, spoken like a true moron,

What "fan" would want Coventry not to exist !
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I think he was humoring the post he was replying to, not being serious.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #45
Sick Boy said:
So you would be happy for your team to be thrown out the league and then possibly face going into liquidation? I don't understand that at all. Getting our hands on the Ricoh is vital and is the only way we are ever going to break even and eventually make a profit. In the long term, it will also make us more appealing to any person interested in investing or taking over the club.

The recent way in which the club seems to be being run (this season), with the restructuring of the bonuses and finally a decent marketing department has actually been encouraging, IMO.
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Why would we be thrown out of the football league? That would never happen and you know it, the football league have gone out of their way to help pompey this past couple of seasons, we would receive the same treatment, we'd swap our games to play away until a replacement ground was found. The half empty St Andrews would be chuffed to bits to get a tenant. I agree that it's vital for the Ricoh to be owned/part owned by the club, but Sisu over this past couple of years have proved to us all they shouldn't have a say in the running of such a vital asset for the city.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #46
Marty said:
Why would we be thrown out of the football league? That would never happen and you know it, the football league have gone out of their way to help pompey this past couple of seasons, we would receive the same treatment, we'd swap our games to play away until a replacement ground was found. The half empty St Andrews would be chuffed to bits to get a tenant. I agree that it's vital for the Ricoh to be owned/part owned by the club, but Sisu over this past couple of years have proved to us all they shouldn't have a say in the running of such a vital asset for the city.
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Why would we not get thrown out the league? No ground, nowhere to play home games, no guarantee can fulfill fixtures = get out the league.
 

Diehard Si

New Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #47
Sick Boy said:
So you would be happy for your team to be thrown out the league and then possibly face going into liquidation? I don't understand that at all. Getting our hands on the Ricoh is vital and is the only way we are ever going to break even and eventually make a profit. In the long term, it will also make us more appealing to any person interested in investing or taking over the club.

The recent way in which the club seems to be being run (this season), with the restructuring of the bonuses and finally a decent marketing department has actually been encouraging, IMO.
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He didn't say he was happy, he said that's what he would do if he was ACL i their shoes. At least that's how I interpreted it, and if I was them ( and not a city fan I'd do the same ).

Of course we are all City fans, so lets just hope it gets resolved amicably.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #48
kg82 said:
Why would we not get thrown out the league? No ground, nowhere to play home games, no guarantee can fulfill fixtures = get out the league.
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Why would pompey not get thrown out the league? No players, No money, no guarantee can full fixtures = oh look, preparing for a game tomorrow with their new players.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #49
If we can't fulfil our fixtures, what do you think will happen?

I am not sure the FL would be as accommodating as you suggest. If we were ground sharing they would have to rearrange other fixtures for us as well, not just ours
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #50
kg82 said:
I think he was humoring the post he was replying to, not being serious.
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hallelujah

My faith in my fellow supporters has been restored

 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #51
Sick Boy said:
If we can't fulfil our fixtures, what do you think will happen?
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Same thing thats happen with Portsmouth, given every chance to resolve the problems. It'd be a case of at worst, playing a 3 or 4 away games in a row while finding a new ground.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #52
Marty said:
Why would pompey not get thrown out the league? No players, No money, no guarantee can full fixtures = oh look, preparing for a game tomorrow with their new players.
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You just said they had no players?

Being locked out your ground would be tragic.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #53
kg82 said:
You just said they had no players?

Being locked out your ground would be tragic.
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Having no players is a bigger problem then no ground, We're surrounded by grounds and it'd be next to no time in resolving the issue.

It's very rarely Blues & Villa play at home on the same weekend, so we could easily move our games to sunday at St Andrews, We could easily move all our games to Sunday and play at Leicester. When leicester are on for a sunday match, we'll play Saturday. It's not as big a problem as people are making out.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #54
Tad said:
As awful as it would be, could anyone here really blame them? SISU have refused to pay rent, leaving ACL out of pocket. If anyone of us here rented a flat out and they stopped paying you'd do the same thing.
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The house analogy doesn't apply as we are the only available tenants.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #55
Marty said:
Having no players is a bigger problem then no ground, We're surrounded by grounds and it'd be next to no time in resolving the issue.

It's very rarely Blues & Villa play at home on the same weekend, so we could easily move our games to sunday at St Andrews, We could easily move all our games to Sunday and play at Leicester. When leicester are on for a sunday match, we'll play Saturday. It's not as big a problem as people are making out.
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You are on the wind up aren't you?
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #56
Marty said:
Having no players is a bigger problem then no ground, We're surrounded by grounds and it'd be next to no time in resolving the issue.

It's very rarely Blues & Villa play at home on the same weekend, so we could easily move our games to sunday at St Andrews, We could easily move all our games to Sunday and play at Leicester. When leicester are on for a sunday match, we'll play Saturday. It's not as big a problem as people are making out.
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Got it all figured out then? Except, we can't afford, or choose not to pay, the rent on our own ground so why would a) we pay for it anywhere else and b) people trust us?
 

Tad

Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #57
Grendel said:
The house analogy doesn't apply as we are the only available tenants.
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You know what I mean though. You wouldn't let free loaders in, so why should they.

Plus, the Ricoh can be used for more then just football, so they can always offer it out as something else.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #58
kg82 said:
Got it all figured out then? Except, we can't afford, or choose not to pay, the rent on our own ground so why would a) we pay for it anywhere else and b) people trust us?
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Exactly. What a joke and it's reduced revenue tad some fans will not travel. Another well thought out "cunning plan"
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #59
Grendel said:
Exactly. What a joke and it's reduced revenue tad some fans will not travel. Another well thought out "cunning plan"
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Something we agree on? I need a shower!
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #60
I'm surprised by the defeatist attitude on here. We can afford the rent, we are holding it due to Sisu deeming 100k a month too high. I haven't got it worked out and never claimed I did, I'm just offering a potential solution. I'm sure if we found a local ground that we could share would be more then happy for us to help pay the bills, people don't have to trust us to do business with us, everything paid up front.
 

kg82

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  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #61
Marty said:
I'm surprised by the defeatist attitude on here. We can afford the rent, we are holding it due to Sisu deeming 100k a month too high. I haven't got it worked out and never claimed I did, I'm just offering a potential solution. I'm sure if we found a local ground that we could share would be more then happy for us to help pay the bills, people don't have to trust us to do business with us, everything paid up front.
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But there's so many holes in that, too many ifs - and I'd say in business, trust actually counts for a lot.

It's not defeatist as I don't think it will happen. But if it did I think it would be absolutely terrible news for the club.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #62
It would be terrible, but there's always a solution, trust does count for a lot, but if everything is paid up front, trust can go out the window.

I just think ACL need to stand firm,

Who put us in this situation (league one) to start? Sisu?
Why should ACL pick up the tab for Sisu running us into the ground?
Why should ACL put up with what is pritty much Black mailing?

Sometimes you just need to take a stand and say NO!
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #63
I think it would be terrible, but if I was ACL it's exactly what I'd do. Two can play at hardball! That it's even a possibility is entirely, categorically, SISU's fault. I'd love to see someone argue that it isn't...
 
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valiant15

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  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #64
Que the sisu cheerleaders,zzzzzzzzzzz.
 
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bulkingtonskyblues

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  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #65
spot on. if sisu think the fans will back them on this then they have it very wrong. if it comes to it i would support acl in any actions to stop us playing at the ricoh, where would sisu go then?
 
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valiant15

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  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #66
To hell hopefully.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #67
Marty said:
It would be terrible, but there's always a solution, trust does count for a lot, but if everything is paid up front, trust can go out the window.

I just think ACL need to stand firm,

Who put us in this situation (league one) to start? Sisu?
Why should ACL pick up the tab for Sisu running us into the ground?
Why should ACL put up with what is pritty much Black mailing?

Sometimes you just need to take a stand and say NO!
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That's another if though with paying it up front. Can you see sisu doing that? Because I certainly couldn't see it happening.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #68
bulkingtonskyblues said:
spot on. if sisu think the fans will back them on this then they have it very wrong. if it comes to it i would support acl in any actions to stop us playing at the ricoh, where would sisu go then?
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The rent is not sustainable. You would support ACL you say. Remind me, what division are they in?
 
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valiant15

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  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #69
Well they should of invested in the squad,kept us in the championship,then they could afford it. I can't believe people are still sticking up for these out of town chancers. Fuck me,where's your loyalty.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2012
  • #70
valiant15 said:
Well they should of invested in the squad,kept us in the championship,then they could afford it. I can't believe people are still sticking up for these out of town chancers. feck me,where's your loyalty.
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It's with the football club as I pay to watch football.
 
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