Copa America (1 Viewer)

SkyblueTexan · Jun 23, 2024

Palmer and Lati are representing Jamaica while Haji Wright is representing USA in Cops America which is taking place now.

Watching Mexico vs Jamaica currently which is scoreless. Greg Leigh who plays for Oxford has always looked good when I’ve watched him play for Jamaica. Our players are okay - nothing remarkable.

Old Warwickshire lad · Jun 23, 2024

Am in Mexico. Thought Palmer had a few mates here, he keeps passing to them.

Skyblue Bangkok · Jun 23, 2024

Old Warwickshire lad said:
Am in Mexico. Thought Palmer had a few mates here, he keeps passing to them.

Yes lol ,I'm watching too.

SkyblueTexan · Jun 23, 2024

Old Warwickshire lad said:
Am in Mexico. Thought Palmer had a few mates here, he keeps passing to them.

Pretty decent match. Lembikisa and Pinnock have looked very good for Jamaica.

Old Warwickshire lad · Jun 23, 2024

Mexico have been well on top 2nd half. Should be 3 up.
They bloody shoot from everywhere.

Old Warwickshire lad · Jun 23, 2024

Sat in the hotel bar with a bunch of Mexicans trying to explain why I am watching it

SkyblueTexan · Jun 23, 2024

Old Warwickshire lad said:
Mexico have been well on top 2nd half. Should be 3 up.
They bloody shoot from everywhere.

True. Jamaica had their moments early in the second half and were unlucky with the disallowed goal.

steve101 · Jun 23, 2024

Can't find player ratings for Jamaica anywhere, just for Mexico. Saw both Latibeudiere and Palmer played the full game. How did they play?

SkyblueTexan · Jun 23, 2024

steve101 said:
Can't find player ratings for Jamaica anywhere, just for Mexico. Saw both Latibeudiere and Palmer played the full game. How did they play?

I thought both Lati and Palmer were average - about a 6/10 for me for both. Lati played as a CB and not in midfield. Palmer had 1 shot on target saved by the keeper and skied another well over the bar, but was largely anonymous. Lati was okay and mopped up things at the back reasonably well, but the team as a whole sat too deep and invited pressure from Mexico who basically shot on sight. The Jamaican keeper had a good game and saved several shots, but was powerless to stop the goal which was a rocket. I also think Lembikasa, Leigh and Pinnock were good for Jamaica.

wingy · Jun 23, 2024

SkyblueTexan said:
I thought both Lati and Palmer were average - about a 6/10 for me for both. Lati played as a CB and not in midfield. Palmer had 1 shot on target saved by the keeper and skied another well over the bar, but was largely anonymous. Lati was okay and mopped up things at the back reasonably well, but the team as a whole sat too deep and invited pressure from Mexico who basically shot on sight. The Jamaican keeper had a good game and saved several shots, but was powerless to stop the goal which was a rocket. I also think Lembikasa, Leigh and Pinnock were good for Jamaica.

Saved watching the replay then, cheers!!🫣

Skyblue Bangkok · Jun 23, 2024

wingy said:
Saved watching the replay then, cheers!!🫣

Agree with your marks for both players , late on when Jamaica were pushing for an equaliser Palmer seemed to make minimal effort to get forward ,look for a pass or even press.

clint van damme · Jun 23, 2024

Old Warwickshire lad said:
Mexico have been well on top 2nd half. Should be 3 up.
They bloody shoot from everywhere.

The Jamaican team should have taken some anti anxiety medication.
They stop Hispanic attacks.

Saddlebrains · Jun 23, 2024

Couldn't care less on Kasey and Joel

It's Haji we need to come through unscathed. Let's hope for an early USA exit

SkyblueTexan · Jun 23, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
Couldn't care less on Kasey and Joel

It's Haji we need to come through unscathed. Let's hope for an early USA exit

We need all of them to come through unscathed. Need the numbers for squad depth. Although, I agree that of the bunch Haji is probably the most important. Yesterday the Mexican captain pulled up after a non-contact hamstring injury and had to come off. Looks like a lengthy layoff.

procdoc · Jun 23, 2024

If Wright has a great tournament and bags a few goals I think we will struggle to keep hold of him

Old Warwickshire lad · Jun 23, 2024

steve101 said:
Can't find player ratings for Jamaica anywhere, just for Mexico. Saw both Latibeudiere and Palmer played the full game. How did they play?

Thought Latibeudiere did ok under a lot of pressure.
Thought Palmer was his usual waste of space, especially when Jamaica were under pressure.
Perhaps unfair because I will admit I am one of those who don’t rate Palmer anyway.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Jun 23, 2024

SkyblueTexan said:
We need all of them to come through unscathed. Need the numbers for squad depth. Although, I agree that of the bunch Haji is probably the most important. Yesterday the Mexican captain pulled up after a non-contact hamstring injury and had to come off. Looks like a lengthy layoff.

When does the Copa-America finish, only 7 days till players return for training.

They are going to need some rest so I guess they won't be involved until mid July.

SkyblueTexan · Jun 23, 2024

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
When does the Copa-America finish, only 7 days till players return for training.

They are going to need some rest so I guess they won't be involved until mid July.

Tournament ends 14Jul. USA plays Bolivia today (first match). I've got something going on and will likely miss watching the match, but USA is expected to win. Selfishly I hope Sargent starts ahead of Wright for the US. I think USA could go far in the tournament. I think Jamaica will likely get eliminated in the group stages.

I'd also like to have our players in for pre-season, but I guess those at Copa America will not join until much later.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Jun 23, 2024

SkyblueTexan said:
Tournament ends 14Jul. USA plays Bolivia today (first match). I've got something going on and will likely miss watching the match, but USA is expected to win. Selfishly I hope Sargent starts ahead of Wright for the US. I think USA could go far in the tournament. I think Jamaica will likely get eliminated in the group stages.

I'd also like to have our players in for pre-season, but I guess those at Copa America will not join until much later.

So Hadji Wright should have enough time to recover for the start of the season, as long as he doesn't get injured.

Seaside-Skyblue · Jun 23, 2024

procdoc said:
If Wright has a great tournament and bags a few goals I think we will struggle to keep hold of him

The positive side being that it would add a few more numbers to his price tag. A thriving and confident Wright at International level will only benefit us.

hamil99 · Jun 23, 2024

Haji starts on the bench for USMNT Tonight.

hamertime · Jun 23, 2024

Ffs. Stayed up he ain’t even on. Hope
He scores a PK in overtime.

Saddlebrains · Jun 24, 2024

hamertime said:
Ffs. Stayed up he ain’t even on. Hope
He scores a PK in overtime.

Good
The less he plays the better for us

Sky Blue Harry H · Jun 24, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
Couldn't care less on Kasey and Joel

It's Haji we need to come through unscathed. Let's hope for an early USA exit

But it is a squad game - and saying we couldn't care less about the likes of Joel is daft, when/if we pick up injuries/suspensions and we haven't got any proper cover.

Sky Blue Pete · Jun 24, 2024

Unplayed sub

Saddlebrains · Jun 24, 2024

Sky Blue Harry H said:
But it is a squad game - and saying we couldn't care less about the likes of Joel is daft, when/if we pick up injuries/suspensions and we haven't got any proper cover.

I was more referring to being back for pre season ahead of schedule

RobinsArmy · Jun 24, 2024

Skyblue Bangkok said:
Agree with your marks for both players , late on when Jamaica were pushing for an equaliser Palmer seemed to make minimal effort to get forward ,look for a pass or even press.

I agree with the Palmer comments, he has always been hit and miss.

We need better, looks like we have signed better in the window, i can see palmer starting the bench most games.

BlueSkiesForever · Jun 24, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
Couldn't care less on Kasey and Joel

It's Haji we need to come through unscathed. Let's hope for an early USA exit

Agree, I’ve got nothing against them but in my mind they’re not really part of our squad, like I know that they can do a job as subs but I don’t ever think of Palmer or Lati as game-changing players. If we sold them for a combined £3-5 mil I’d be over the moon tbh, take them off the wage bill and bring in some proper talent, we can’t have maybes or wannabes if we’re to get into the prem.

Grendel · Jun 24, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
Agree, I’ve got nothing against them but in my mind they’re not really part of our squad, like I know that they can do a job as subs but I don’t ever think of Palmer or Lati as game-changing players. If we sold them for a combined £3-5 mil I’d be over the moon tbh, take them off the wage bill and bring in some proper talent, we can’t have maybes or wannabes if we’re to get into the prem.

There’s zero chance we’d get that much for them.

BlueSkiesForever · Jun 24, 2024

Grendel said:
There’s zero chance we’d get that much for them.

Yeah probably not, hence why I’d be over the moon

Terry_dactyl · Jun 24, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
Agree, I’ve got nothing against them but in my mind they’re not really part of our squad, like I know that they can do a job as subs but I don’t ever think of Palmer or Lati as game-changing players. If we sold them for a combined £3-5 mil I’d be over the moon tbh, take them off the wage bill and bring in some proper talent, we can’t have maybes or wannabes if we’re to get into the prem.

I think that both Palmer and Lati are game changers in different ways. Palmer more obviously…on his day he is unplayable…Lati enables us to change formation more easily.
I love Palmer but he’s probably not consistent enough. I think Both are really good players to have in a championship squad.

Sky Blue Pete · Jun 24, 2024

Terry_dactyl said:
I think that both Palmer and Lati are game changers in different ways. Palmer more obviously…on his day he is unplayable…Lati enables us to change formation more easily.
I love Palmer but he’s probably not consistent enough. I think Both are really good players to have in a championship squad.

Unless in palmers case he’s on a high wage

BlueSkiesForever · Jun 24, 2024

Terry_dactyl said:
I think that both Palmer and Lati are game changers in different ways. Palmer more obviously…on his day he is unplayable…Lati enables us to change formation more easily.
I love Palmer but he’s probably not consistent enough. I think Both are really good players to have in a championship squad.

Hmmmm, I’m not sure Palmer is “unplayable on his day”, I used to really rate Palmer, and yes on his day he’s decent but the more I’ve seen from him the more I’ve come round to the idea that he’s all huff no puff. He’s good at picking up the ball and running with it but he never really seems to create anything with it, either through final-ball passing or through shooting.

As for Lati, he’s okay and yes he does offer flexibility, which isn’t a bad thing, but I do think he’s a bit of a passenger. Having said that I’m not calling for him to he sold immediately, just that if we have an interested buyer then we might as well make some cash back on him.

Terry_dactyl · Jun 24, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
Hmmmm, I’m not sure Palmer is “unplayable on his day”, I used to really rate Palmer, and yes on his day he’s decent but the more I’ve seen from him the more I’ve come round to the idea that he’s all huff no puff. He’s good at picking up the ball and running with it but he never really seems to create anything with it, either through final-ball passing or through shooting.

As for Lati, he’s okay and yes he does offer flexibility, which isn’t a bad thing, but I do think he’s a bit of a passenger. Having said that I’m not calling for him to he sold immediately, just that if we have an interested buyer then we might as well make some cash back on him.

Well, it might be a bit of an exaggeration but my point is he’s pretty good when firing on all cylinders.
I think, they’re good championship squad players.
I guess the thing about selling them is we’d have to find better replacements. Which of course I’m all for across the team!

Pete, I wonder if we’ve got to start getting used to having players on big wages, sitting on our bench…we’re massive now!

Old Warwickshire lad · Jun 24, 2024

Terry_dactyl said:
I think that both Palmer and Lati are game changers in different ways. Palmer more obviously…on his day he is unplayable…Lati enables us to change formation more easily.
I love Palmer but he’s probably not consistent enough. I think Both are really good players to have in a championship squad.

Shows how good they are. It’s obvious they are both available and there is zero interest.
If we got half a million for them I would think it was good business.

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