Congratulations England women (4 Viewers)

skybluelee · Tuesday at 3:12 PM

harvey098 said:
It’s amazing what they’ve achieved and the amount of lives they will change (even if it is just giving people a new hobby they wouldn’t have had otherwise).

So many young people will be inspired to start playing because of these women.

The standard will keep getting better and better, which will in turn bring in more funding and hopefully one day equal pay can be achievable. You have to be inherently sexist to not want that to be the end goal.

I have managed a girls football team since 2020 (when my players were 8 and 9 yo). We took a coach to the Euros final in 2022. I have therefore seen at first hand the impact the Lionesses have had on helping young girls fall in love with football and feeling like they belong.

Most of those players are still playing for me now as we move up to U15s. And there are still 20 girls teams at our age level playing in Dorset (excluding Bournemouth). A few years back you'd have been laughed at for suggesting such a thing could be possible. So much of that is down to the Lionesses.

I find the best thing is to just put misogynist attention seekers like that wife beater Barton on mute and enjoy the fantastic achievement of this group of exceptional and talented role models.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Tuesday at 3:14 PM

chiefdave said:
Lets hope so. I see a couple of potential problems they need to avoid.

One is the old favourite, concentring all the money at the top. The top players want big money, they need to make sure enough gets to all levels so they can have more competitive divisions.

Would be great to have a CCFC Women in a tier 2 or 3 pro league at some point in the next decade. Seems to be a bit of a tendency to have big money at the top, some money at grassroots and everything in-between struggling. Don't make the same mistakes as the mens games.

The other is bringing up the standard of the other nations to avoid things getting stale quickly. Cricket had the big push in the womens game but then people realised only England, India and the Aussies could put out half decent teams and it becomes a real battle to sustain interest. Nobody wants to go to one side games regularly and nobody wants tournaments where you know the semi-finalists before you start.

My biggest bugbear with the women's game is how they just parachuted all the big men's teams into a league and just shat all over the few teams that had actually been supporting women's football for years, like Doncaster Belles. Just leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Grendel · Tuesday at 5:51 PM

harvey098 said:
Obviously right now it’s unviable. I’m saying I hope these are all the building blocks to one day being equal. How can anyone not want that.

If you had it every club would go bust.

Outside the protected few even PL crowds are not great

Go down a couple of levels and it’s a couple of hundred or so at best

ProfessorbyGrace · Tuesday at 6:11 PM

It’s unfortunate that the women’s game is so highly governed by politics, to be honest.

A game is a game, it’s not a platform for anything aside from being a greedy bastard with 20 whopper sponsorships.

harvey098 · Tuesday at 10:06 PM

Grendel said:
If you had it every club would go bust.

Outside the protected few even PL crowds are not great

Go down a couple of levels and it’s a couple of hundred or so at best

What you going on about?

If one day, maybe decades down the line, men and women generated the same revenue and had equal pay, every club would go bust? Where do you make this stuff up from

Grendel · Tuesday at 10:16 PM

harvey098 said:
What you going on about?

If one day, maybe decades down the line, men and women generated the same revenue and had equal pay, every club would go bust? Where do you make this stuff up from

Well they can’t generate the same revenue.

There isn’t equal pay in either game now.

harvey098 · Tuesday at 11:46 PM

Grendel said:
Well they can’t generate the same revenue.

There isn’t equal pay in either game now.

Why can’t they generate the same revenue one day? The interest has already grown exponentially in the past 20 years. Why can’t that keep growing?

Can you explain your working out on how every club would go bust if one day the men and women’s game were on a more even keel? (In terms of participation, interest, sponsorship, TV money etc).

baldy · Wednesday at 12:22 AM

harvey098 said:
Why can’t they generate the same revenue one day? The interest has already grown exponentially in the past 20 years. Why can’t that keep growing?

Can you explain your working out on how every club would go bust if one day the men and women’s game were on a more even keel? (In terms of participation, interest, sponsorship, TV money etc).

Bit of a thick question - they can't generate the same revenue because mens football will always be more attended & popular
Dunno how you can't grasp that

harvey098 · Wednesday at 9:18 AM

baldy said:
Bit of a thick question - they can't generate the same revenue because mens football will always be more attended & popular
Dunno how you can't grasp that

You’ve misunderstood

Grendel · Wednesday at 9:28 AM

baldy said:
Bit of a thick question - they can't generate the same revenue because mens football will always be more attended & popular
Dunno how you can't grasp that

There isn’t equal pay now in either game.

There is of course a far bigger problem in Harvey’s fantasy island

Nick · Wednesday at 9:37 AM

Only have to look at Cov United ladies to see that was dreamland.

Soon as nobody wanted to throw loads of money in it went, they weren't generating any money.

Otis · Wednesday at 9:40 AM

Anyone know how much Sky pay for the rights to women's football as opposed to men's?

Nick · Wednesday at 9:44 AM

Otis said:
Anyone know how much Sky pay for the rights to women's football as opposed to men's?

Apparently £65m between Sky and BBC - WSL agrees record £65m domestic five-year TV deal with Sky Sports and BBC

Sky and TNT Sports - £6.7bn - Sky and TNT score TV rights to Premier League in £6.7bn deal

Just a quick google, could be wrong.

Liquid Gold · Wednesday at 11:08 AM

The equal pay argument stems from the US women’s team who were paid less than the men despite bringing more in through sponsorship and viewers.

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