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Skyblueweeman

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  • Monday at 3:41 PM
  • #106
Grendel said:
I don’t know why @Skyblueweeman is laughing I guess he has comprehension issues.
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Yeah, that'll be it G.
 

Grendel

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  • Monday at 3:58 PM
  • #107
SBT said:
Because it’s a high profile team sport where there’s considerable overlap between the ways both the men’s game and women’s games are presented, and where (unlike many other sports) teams/tournaments are run by the same organisations. I really don’t see why making comparisons between the two is so upsetting to some people.
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There is normally a differential. It’s the only sport I know where both are compared directly. So they are the first team to achieve back to back and last time the “hurt” of not winning since 1966 has been removed.

Women in other sports are referenced to women and vica versa.
 
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SBT

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  • Monday at 4:01 PM
  • #108
Grendel said:
There is normally a differential. It’s the only sport I know where both are compared directly. So they are the first team to achieve back to back and last time the “hurt” of not winning since 1966 has been removed.

Women in other sports are referenced to women and vica versa.
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The women in football are also referenced to as women last time I checked

It doesn’t even matter whether someone compares the two of course
 

Grendel

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  • Monday at 4:19 PM
  • #109
SBT said:
The women in football are also referenced to as women last time I checked

It doesn’t even matter whether someone compares the two of course
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The reference refers to comparisons in Sport.

When Andy Murray won the US the reference was to Fred Perry and not Virginia Wade

Conversely Radacanu was referenced to Virginia Wade not Andy Murray

Jessica Ennis Hill and KJT are not compared to Daley Thompson
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Monday at 4:23 PM
  • #110
FGS!! It’s women v women and ours are the best in Europe again. Celebrate that.
 
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SBT

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  • Monday at 4:24 PM
  • #111
Grendel said:
The reference refers to comparisons in Sport.

When Andy Murray won the US the reference was to Fred Perry and not Virginia Wade

Conversely Radacanu was referenced to Virginia Wade not Andy Murray

Jessica Ennis Hill and KJT are not compared to Daley Thompson
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….OK? Sorry this has rattled you I guess.
 

Grendel

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  • Monday at 4:25 PM
  • #112
SBT said:
….OK? Sorry this has rattled you I guess.
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It really hasn't got me rattled at all.

Why would it?
 

ccfctommy

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  • Monday at 4:29 PM
  • #113
It's a feel good moment for the country if not nothing else. The national team winning on the European stage.

Not sure why the same tired arguments have arisen. Been done to death.
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Monday at 4:36 PM
  • #114
Can't be arsed with the mens England team - but loved it last night. Well done ladies of England.
 
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baldy

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  • Monday at 5:59 PM
  • #115
ccfctommy said:
It's a feel good moment for the country if not nothing else. The national team winning on the European stage.

Not sure why the same tired arguments have arisen. Been done to death.
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I really don't think it has that much effect tbh
 

Grendel

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  • Monday at 6:02 PM
  • #116
baldy said:
I really don't think it has that much effect tbh
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It doesn’t. The mens wouldn’t either after a day or two.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Monday at 6:13 PM
  • #117
Was lucky enough to be at Wembley to watch them win last time and this year watched at Truck Festival. Two screens showing it and ours was absolutely rammed.

Great atmosphere with loads of kids watching. If it inspires anyone, male or female to start playing football, that's such a good thing.

 
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Joy Division

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  • Monday at 6:18 PM
  • #118
Why men seem to get rattled by it I don't know. Calling it 'not proper football' or degrading the standard of it etc. I'm sure there is one thing we can all agree on and that is football is fucking brilliant, its the best thing in the world. Why would we not want to share this with everybody and let people play the game, showcase it to the world and let everybody have a go.
 
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Grendel

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  • Monday at 7:09 PM
  • #119
Joy Division said:
Why men seem to get rattled by it I don't know. Calling it 'not proper football' or degrading the standard of it etc. I'm sure there is one thing we can all agree on and that is football is fucking brilliant, it’s the best thing in the world. Why would we not want to share this with everybody and let people play the game, showcase it to the world and let everybody have a go.
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I don’t see anyone rattled
 

Calista

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  • Monday at 7:56 PM
  • #120
Grendel said:
I don’t see anyone rattled
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Just people coming on here to keep saying they don't care about it.
 

Joy Division

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  • Monday at 8:06 PM
  • #121
Grendel said:
I don’t see anyone rattled
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I mean if you read the comments section of any news reporting on it its full of bitter angry men.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Monday at 8:14 PM
  • #122
Grendel said:
I don’t see anyone rattled
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You're borderline tbf.
 

Grendel

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  • Monday at 8:38 PM
  • #123
Skyblueweeman said:
You're borderline tbf.
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Doubt it. I sponsor the local women’s football team.
 
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eyesee

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  • Monday at 8:54 PM
  • #124
Calista said:
Just people coming on here to keep saying they don't care about it.
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there's bound to be knockers in women's football. it's inevitable.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Monday at 8:59 PM
  • #125
Grendel said:
Doubt it. I sponsor the local women’s football team.
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Bizarre given some of your posts.

But kudos to you if true.
 
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Rodders1

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  • Monday at 9:12 PM
  • #126
Joy Division said:
Why men seem to get rattled by it I don't know. Calling it 'not proper football' or degrading the standard of it etc. I'm sure there is one thing we can all agree on and that is football is fucking brilliant, its the best thing in the world. Why would we not want to share this with everybody and let people play the game, showcase it to the world and let everybody have a go.
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Football’s football. Some of the insecure comments make me laugh.

Anyone mentioning the standard I suppose will be wondering off to support Liverpool, PSG, or Madrid next season then - certainly a better level than the Cov men’s team.
 
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Otis

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  • Monday at 9:45 PM
  • #127
Rodders1 said:
Football’s football. Some of the insecure comments make me laugh.

Anyone mentioning the standard I suppose will be wondering off to support Liverpool, PSG, or Madrid next season then - certainly a better level than the Cov men’s team.
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Yeah I don't get it.

Folkestone Invicta here, are many levels below where we are, so they are never going to be as good, or the players be top quality. There are many levels of football, from junior, to youth, to non-league, to professional, to women's, to Premier league and international.

They are all just different.

I love watching the women's game and the women's cricket and the women's rugby too

It's just different.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Monday at 9:58 PM
  • #128
Otis said:
Yeah I don't get it.

Folkestone Invicta here, are many levels below where we are, so they are never going to be as good, or the players be top quality. There are many levels of football, from junior, to youth, to non-league, to professional, to women's, to Premier league and international.

They are all just different.

I love watching the women's game and the women's cricket and the women's rugby too

It's just different.
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There's plenty of people in Coventry and the surrounding areas who say they support CCFC as a 'second team' and glory hunt off someone in the top flight. More broadly there's loads of people who think it's weird to support clubs who don't win most of the time or who at least aren't in the Prem.

Taking an interest into how England women are doing is little different
 

Otis

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  • Tuesday at 2:33 AM
  • #129
I obviously support the City, but now also take a vested interest in Folkestone Invicta (not been yet, mind).

I then also follow England, but England at all levels, so men's, women's and if it's the U21 Euro Championship, I will watch all England's games for that. Even U17's.

For me, the England men's games are completely different to the U21's and the women's. It's just different levels .

The one big difference in the women's game is that the keepers are shorter, on the whole.

Average height for a male goalkeeper is 6ft 2 and for women, it's 5ft 8. This very much in part makes women's goalkeepers look worse, because they have more of the goal to cover and it's easier to fire the ball over their heads and past them etc.

Women's football is still evolving, but I very much expect that on a skill level, the women will very quickly catch up with the men.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Tuesday at 8:00 AM
  • #130
Womens Euros
Lions smashing Wallabies
England Cricket playing out a great series against India
Lando Norris fighting for the F1 drivers championship
U21s Euros

It's a great year for English sport. If you don't like it then go and talk about something else and let the rest of us be proud of national achievements.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Tuesday at 8:16 AM
  • #131
Liquid Gold said:
Womens Euros
Lions smashing Wallabies
England Cricket playing out a great series against India
Lando Norris fighting for the F1 drivers championship
U21s Euros

It's a great year for English sport. If you don't like it then go and talk about something else and let the rest of us be proud of national achievements.
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And the Coventry youth winning the Sevens in Singapore - we have some good young ones coming along
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Tuesday at 9:05 AM
  • #132
Is that Donald on the open top bus?
 
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spwaverley4916

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  • Tuesday at 12:26 PM
  • #133
Grendel said:
There is normally a differential. It’s the only sport I know where both are compared directly. So they are the first team to achieve back to back and last time the “hurt” of not winning since 1966 has been removed.

Women in other sports are referenced to women and vica versa.
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"the first Senior International team to achieve back to back"
 
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wingy

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  • Tuesday at 12:31 PM
  • #134
Loving the band renditions of a couple of terrace staples!
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Tuesday at 12:44 PM
  • #135
Grendel said:
Doubt it. I sponsor the local women’s football team.
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Skyblueweeman said:
Bizarre given some of your posts.

But kudos to you if true.
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Good lord, I hope they never invite you to give them some motivational words.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Tuesday at 12:59 PM
  • #136
MusicDating said:
Was lucky enough to be at Wembley to watch them win last time and this year watched at Truck Festival. Two screens showing it and ours was absolutely rammed.

Great atmosphere with loads of kids watching. If it inspires anyone, male or female to start playing football, that's such a good thing.

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And here's some footage of the celebrations

https://www.facebook.com/
 
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harvey098

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  • Tuesday at 1:24 PM
  • #137
It’s amazing what they’ve achieved and the amount of lives they will change (even if it is just giving people a new hobby they wouldn’t have had otherwise).

So many young people will be inspired to start playing because of these women.

The standard will keep getting better and better, which will in turn bring in more funding and hopefully one day equal pay can be achievable. You have to be inherently sexist to not want that to be the end goal.
 
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Grendel

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  • Tuesday at 1:26 PM
  • #138
harvey098 said:
It’s amazing what they’ve achieved and the amount of lives they will change (even if it is just giving people a new hobby they wouldn’t have had otherwise).

So many young people will be inspired to start playing because of these women.

The standard will keep getting better and better, which will in turn bring in more funding and hopefully one day equal pay can be achievable. You have to be inherently sexist to not want that to be the end goal.
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The notion of equal pay is laughable. Outside the elite clubs as you even go a couple of leagues below players are unpaid and fund their own transport
 

chiefdave

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  • Tuesday at 1:54 PM
  • #139
harvey098 said:
It’s amazing what they’ve achieved and the amount of lives they will change (even if it is just giving people a new hobby they wouldn’t have had otherwise).

So many young people will be inspired to start playing because of these women.

The standard will keep getting better and better, which will in turn bring in more funding and hopefully one day equal pay can be achievable. You have to be inherently sexist to not want that to be the end goal.
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Lets hope so. I see a couple of potential problems they need to avoid.

One is the old favourite, concentring all the money at the top. The top players want big money, they need to make sure enough gets to all levels so they can have more competitive divisions.

Would be great to have a CCFC Women in a tier 2 or 3 pro league at some point in the next decade. Seems to be a bit of a tendency to have big money at the top, some money at grassroots and everything in-between struggling. Don't make the same mistakes as the mens games.

The other is bringing up the standard of the other nations to avoid things getting stale quickly. Cricket had the big push in the womens game but then people realised only England, India and the Aussies could put out half decent teams and it becomes a real battle to sustain interest. Nobody wants to go to one side games regularly and nobody wants tournaments where you know the semi-finalists before you start.
 

harvey098

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  • Tuesday at 2:23 PM
  • #140
Grendel said:
The notion of equal pay is laughable. Outside the elite clubs as you even go a couple of leagues below players are unpaid and fund their own transport
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Obviously right now it’s unviable. I’m saying I hope these are all the building blocks to one day being equal. How can anyone not want that.
 
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