I know yes terrible , fa cup semi finalists and 9th place last year .. same bloody players7 /12 points is a reasonable start given what he has to work with
That's true but your saying losing 2-1 Vs poor team ain't so bad but beating a poor team 2-1 isnt reason to be happy either lolI said it was poor and disappointing, it just wasn't the all-time low it has become in some people's imaginations.
The fact is Derby scored twice having had one shot on target, and even with the scrappy performance we should have had three points.
Derby are currently above us tbhThat's true but your saying losing 2-1 Vs poor team ain't so bad but beating a poor team 2-1 isnt reason to be happy either lol
When did I say that last bit?That's true but your saying losing 2-1 Vs poor team ain't so bad but beating a poor team 2-1 isnt reason to be happy either lol
That was the game I lost a lot of hope in the system as it was all over the place.Tactically, it was appalling.
Sakamoto was played central, a position he struggles in anyway and Robins didn't think to change it sooner even though Adams was basically doing nothing but man mark him all game, completely stifling him.
The Rudoni left back experiment came to a crashing end.
Our shape was completely all over the place until Robins finally changed things but it was too little too late.
Need I go on.
They are indeed which should be distinctly worryingDerby are currently above us tbh
maybe it's just others then. But it's the general vibe in this thread. Who cares about beating hull etcWhen did I say that last bit?
Not me, I loved yesterday's win.maybe it's just others then. But it's the general vibe in this thread. Who cares about beating hull etc
I thought it was a lot brighter and a fair start to the game, went behind to a counter, then carried on with a dominant performance,it wasn't what I was particularly expecting either and the use of the hotel actually had effect all round, I didn't see anything but a raised performance yesterday.Not me, I loved yesterday's win.
Last season, we had some great performances v Leicester, Leeds and Southampton. The issue was more playing the teams around us like PNE, Norwich, WBA and so on. We lost just about every 6 pointer last season home or away. Our record against top half teams cost us a playoff spot.
I don't think they will be come mayThey are indeed which should be distinctly worrying
A win against any of the 4 teams that came to the CBS and beat us would have us above the team in question. All really really poor results.They are indeed which should be distinctly worrying
And wins against two of them would have had us challenging for the playoffs now. Could very easily have happened but for a few errors and small twists and turns in those games.A win against any of the 4 teams that came to the CBS and beat us would have us above the team in question. All really really poor results.
You expect some poor results in a season but facts are we were getting way too many and the home form had actually been embarrassing for some time.
Nice summary. Frank is doing OK at the moment. Mark could of got the same results but we will never know. What we do know is the "deck" has some obvious weaknesses so it is what Frank does to address these issues that will be interesting. We can then judge him on his players, training and tactics. Only caveat is we may have to wait until after the summer transfer window to judgeRobins had gone like it or not. The current situation is that Lampard has to work with the players he has inherited. We all probably acknowledge that our defence is gash . There are positive signs but until new signings arrive sanctioned by Lampard it will be very difficult to judge the merits of his relative success or failure. Lets see what happens after a few transfer windows . Anything above mid table will be a positive this season in my opinion .
But the argument all season has been we should have been scoring more and therefore winning games we lost or turning games we narrowly won into full your boots wins.
Not sure you can take beating an appalling bottom of the league side 2-1 at home as a sign of any particular improvement on the basis that we should have scored more.
Just seems to be more of the same to me.
I think your Avatar gives you away
Derby didn’t even try to play, to only have 11 shots/2 on target/1.23 xg is poor.Quite puzzled by the way the Derby defeat seems to have gone into SBT folklore as one the worst performances ever. Yes it was poor and disappointing, and it triggered Robins’ demise. But for me, it fits into the pattern of much of the season – chances spurned, goals given away, points unfortunately lost. We struggled to break them down, but the two they scored were complete freaks weren’t they?
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Yeah I said it was poor didn't I? It was still a freak defeat against a stubborn team.Derby didn’t even try to play, to only have 11 shots/2 on target/1.23 xg is poor.
You’ve also got the fact he was playing 5 at the back at home with our marquee attacking midfield signing at LWB and Saka out of position in the centre.
Chance creation has been significantly better in all of Frank’s games. Even in his toughest fixture, WBA, we bettered our Derby stats (17/4/2.21).
Don't worry when lampard has an inevitable bad patch at some point , these same posters will be arguing with us again as to why we need change again .. you will seeYeah I said it was poor didn't I? It was still a freak defeat against a stubborn team.
So is most of the league, doesn’t mean they looked a good side. Nobody has except LeedsDerby are currently above us tbh
We are 15th not 21st mateSo is most of the league, doesn’t mean they looked a good side. Nobody has except Leeds
I’ll relax when we pass 50 points and not beforeWe are 15th not 21st mate
Relegation is getting further away you can relax now
I’ll relax when we pass 50 points and not before
I don't know how long you have supported the team, but if you look back at our history, that has always been our problem since we got promoted to top flight football.
Play well against a good side and shite against a bad side and too many teams we just never can beat.
Let's just hope Frank Lampard can beat the hoodoo when we play teams like, Swansea and Preston North End.
Derby didn’t even try to play, to only have 11 shots/2 on target/1.23 xg is poor.
You’ve also got the fact he was playing 5 at the back at home with our marquee attacking midfield signing at LWB and Saka out of position in the centre.
Chance creation has been significantly better in all of Frank’s games. Even in his toughest fixture, WBA, we bettered our Derby stats (17/4/2.21).
It just seems to be a constant thing from the same people. Last week EMC and Rudoni were a waste of money and poor signings. They were Robins signings. Wouldn't surprise me if they congratulate others for choosing them in the future.Don't worry when lampard has an inevitable bad patch at some point , these same posters will be arguing with us again as to why we need change again .. you will see
Last season (presumably 22/23 too) we our record against the bottom half was impressive, iirc. Hull were one such hoodoo team so that’s a positive step in the right direction!
Just as the Swansea and Sheffield Wednesday were freak results? We were just unable to break down those kind of teams that are happy defending and hitting teams on the counter.Yeah I said it was poor didn't I? It was still a freak defeat against a stubborn team.
The big problem with these players is their inconsistency. The Derby performance which got MR sacked followed on from two encouraging ones. Then got two decent games followed by another stinker at Burnley.Btw , we've taken 9 points from 5 of the top 7 too , to balance out your last point
Won 2 drew 3
I don’t think it’s on the players necessarily. To me, it’s a tactical issue because the trend was that we’d struggle against the ‘lumpy’ sides. Not only did we lose, we didn’t get shots on target.The big problem with these players is their inconsistency. The Derby performance which got MR sacked followed on from two encouraging ones. Then got two decent games followed by another stinker at Burnley.
Not knowing which CCFC will turn up must be infuriating for management.
Just as the Swansea and Sheffield Wednesday were freak results? We were just unable to break down those kind of teams that are happy defending and hitting teams on the counter.
Just looking at how we attack, part of the problem is that under MR, we didn’t get the ball in quickly enough compared to how we do under Lampard.
Robins didn’t become a bad manager overnight, I just think he got the coaching structure fundamentally wrong and that cost him his job in the end.
I love the way we now get so many bodies in the area and close to the goal. To me it's the one noticeable change so far. I feel we're going to hammer someone soon.Just looking at how we attack, part of the problem is that under MR, we didn’t get the ball in quickly enough compared to how we do under Lampard.
Fair, but Sheff W and Burnley are hardly those sorts of sides. In the former game we had players arguing on the pitch and even allowing for dubious instructions we saw things that were just inexcusable.I don’t think it’s on the players necessarily. To me, it’s a tactical issue because the trend was that we’d struggle against the ‘lumpy’ sides. Not only did we lose, we didn’t get shots on target.
We also didn’t know who was going to play or what formation from game to game at points. Which is a bit of a red flag if the manager doesn’t have a clear plan.
is that the players though?The big problem with these players is their inconsistency. The Derby performance which got MR sacked followed on from two encouraging ones. Then got two decent games followed by another stinker at Burnley.
Not knowing which CCFC will turn up must be infuriating for management.
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