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Transfer Rumour Confirmed - Bradley Collins (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jul 9, 2023
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Balli001

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #211
napolimp said:
Are you OK? May be time for a lie down.
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Fine thanks. You are the one fighting to justify your incorrect opinion.
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #212
Balli001 said:
Fine thanks. You are the one fighting to justify your incorrect opinion.
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I'm fighting am I. Which incorrect opinion is that?
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #213
Fuck me we sign a player and all shit hits the fan.
We sign no one and all shit hits the fan.
Some people need to give their heads a wobble.

Give the bloke a chance before righting him off.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #214
Perryccfc said:
A lot has been made of Collins ability with the ball at his feet. Wonder if this is inkeeping with the assumed change of tactics. We often played the ball long from Wilson, usually for Gyokeres to feed off scraps and create something for himself which he was superb at.
Maybe this signing offers a small clue into a more keep ball swing and playing out from the back which we have played previously under MR.
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Robins often berated Wilson during games and looked frustrated

I don’t think it’s change of tactics wilson just can’t play out - nowadays keepers are expected to be an extra defender
 
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blunted

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #215
I would say on form an upgrade on Moore who seemed to lose the plot after a great first season. We need continuous improvement in every position and his signing makes us stronger. Wilson's shirt to lose. Can he save pens?
 

Perryccfc

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #216
Grendel said:
Robins often berated Wilson during games and looked frustrated

I don’t think it’s change of tactics wilson just can’t play out - nowadays keepers are expected to be an extra defender
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Very fair comment
 
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ptr

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #217
Tell you what, it’s absolutely mad the amount of people that are convinced Collins has come in as number 1 - people naming starting 11’s for Leicester on Twitter and he’s in goal.

What more did you want from Wilson last year?

hE HaD A SOliD DefENce in FrONT of HiM

He was superb. Will be starting v Leicester.
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #218
Grendel said:
Robins often berated Wilson during games and looked frustrated

I don’t think it’s change of tactics wilson just can’t play out - nowadays keepers are expected to be an extra defender
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I think Collins is a slight improvement over what we have, and welcome competition, which Moore wasn't last season. Its good business from MR and I'm sure he will give Collins a chance to earn the no1 spot, and hopefully we'll see a couple of centrehalves and a right wingback this week too.
 

baldy

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #219
ptr said:
Tell you what, it’s absolutely mad the amount of people that are convinced Collins has come in as number 1 - people naming starting 11’s for Leicester on Twitter and he’s in goal.

What more did you want from Wilson last year?

hE HaD A SOliD DefENce in FrONT of HiM

He was superb. Will be starting v Leicester.
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He’ll definitely start as number one but at least Collins provides more of a threat to his position than Moore does
 
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ptr

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #220
baldy said:
He’ll definitely start as number one but at least Collins provides more of a threat to his position than Moore does
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Absolutely and I think that’s key. Keeps him on his toes. If we didn’t make play offs last year most of the blame could have been on Moore, lost us those games at the start of the season.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #221
ptr said:
Tell you what, it’s absolutely mad the amount of people that are convinced Collins has come in as number 1 - people naming starting 11’s for Leicester on Twitter and he’s in goal.

What more did you want from Wilson last year?

hE HaD A SOliD DefENce in FrONT of HiM

He was superb. Will be starting v Leicester.
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Superb is maybe pushing it for a lot of the season, but I'll agree that by the end he looked an actual goalkeeper, and I'd be perfectly happy with him starting the season.

Unless he goes elsewhere himself, of course...
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #222
I wouldn’t put it past Robins to start Collins against Leicester
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #223
Seems we will be more possession based this year which may give Collins the edge.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #224
there’s an argument that a defence plays better when they trust the goalkeeper.

that being said can anyone point to a game where Wilson won it for us? For me he was a competent keeper, that didn’t have much to do for the majority of his clean sheets

I expect Wilson to be No1 he deserves that much, but it doesn’t leave much margin for error
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #225
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
there’s an argument that a defence plays better when they trust the goalkeeper.

that being said can anyone point to a game where Wilson won it for us? For me he was a competent keeper, that didn’t have much to do for the majority of his clean sheets

I expect Wilson to be No1 he deserves that much, but it doesn’t leave much margin for error
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He was the 6th best keeper in the league on the xG stats.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #226
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
there’s an argument that a defence plays better when they trust the goalkeeper.

that being said can anyone point to a game where Wilson won it for us? For me he was a competent keeper, that didn’t have much to do for the majority of his clean sheets

I expect Wilson to be No1 he deserves that much, but it doesn’t leave much margin for error
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Yeah nothing special but by the end, in a league of flawed keepers, he was solid while making the occasional top save to go with it.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #227
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
there’s an argument that a defence plays better when they trust the goalkeeper.

that being said can anyone point to a game where Wilson won it for us? For me he was a competent keeper, that didn’t have much to do for the majority of his clean sheets

I expect Wilson to be No1 he deserves that much, but it doesn’t leave much margin for error
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Wilson's goal away at Blackburn not only salvaged a point for us but cost them 2 points that played a massive part in them missing out on a playoff place.
That result was absolutely massive for us.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #228
fatso said:
Wilson's goal away at Blackburn not only salvaged a point for us but cost them 2 points that played a massive part in them missing out on a playoff place.
That result was absolutely massive for us.
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But that’s not his goalkeeping is it?
PVA said:
He was the 6th best keeper in the league on the xG stats.
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Yeah nothing special but by the end, in a league of flawed keepers, he was solid while making the occasional top save to go with it.
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And again that’s what I said - he was a competent keeper. He isn’t irreplaceable.

in terms of xG how much are we talking difference between top and bottom?

if Collins is better with the ball at his feet it is likely that Wilson will have to improve that area.

he isn’t like say Westwood, who pulled of a number of great saves.
 
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DannyThomas_1981

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #229
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
But that’s not his goalkeeping is it?


And again that’s what I said - he was a competent keeper. He isn’t irreplaceable.

in terms of xG how much are we talking difference between top and bottom?

if Collins is better with the ball at his feet it is likely that Wilson will have to improve that area.

he isn’t like say Westwood, who pulled of a number of great saves.
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Disagree HDW on this one - Ben made some fantastic saves last season.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #230
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
But that’s not his goalkeeping is it?


And again that’s what I said - he was a competent keeper. He isn’t irreplaceable.

in terms of xG how much are we talking difference between top and bottom?

if Collins is better with the ball at his feet it is likely that Wilson will have to improve that area.

he isn’t like say Westwood, who pulled of a number of great saves.
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Seems harsh to knock him considering his record last season.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #231
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
in terms of xG how much are we talking difference between top and bottom?
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18 goals between top and bottom, it's a huge difference.

On purely shotstopping he was statistically one of the best in the league.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #232
DannyThomas_1981 said:
Disagree HDW on this one - Ben made some fantastic saves last season.
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fatso said:
Seems harsh to knock him considering his record last season.
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PVA said:
18 goals between top and bottom, it's a huge difference.

On purely shotstopping he was statistically one of the best in the league.
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I’m not saying he’s Lee Burge - I thought when the defence clicked, the defence was fantastic and a lot of those clean sheets were down to him being largely anonymous. We had something like 8th least shots on target against us

he’s also low statistically in the amount of passes he makes so as people have previously stated - we’re clearly looking to play out of the back more.

my argument is that he isn’t an extraordinary keeper to mitigate this fact. And again I expect him to be no1 and he deserves his chance to begin as no10
 

ccfc1234

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #233
Could this move signal Wilson might be sold and that money reinvested elsewhere? He is the golden glove winner and it's hard to see his stock rising much higher than now? Seems well liked and played a part in our success so hope he stays.

With new confirmed signings, I often look at the fans reaction of the team we are buying the player from and it does on the whole seem like he will be missed by most Barnsley fans

[Official Site] BRAD COLLINS JOINS COVENTRY CITY

BRAD COLLINS JOINS COVENTRY CITY Club News We can confirm that Brad Collins has today joined Sky Bet Championship outfit Coventry City for an...
barnsleyfc.org.uk
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 17, 2023
  • #234
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’m not saying he’s Lee Burge - I thought when the defence clicked, the defence was fantastic and a lot of those clean sheets were down to him being largely anonymous. We had something like 8th least shots on target against us

he’s also low statistically in the amount of passes he makes so as people have previously stated - we’re clearly looking to play out of the back more.

my argument is that he isn’t an extraordinary keeper to mitigate this fact. And again I expect him to be no1 and he deserves his chance to begin as no10
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No10? I know we're short on CAM's, but bit extreme don't you think? Although he did score more goals than O'hare last season, so I see where you're coming from.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #235
ccfc1234 said:
Could this move signal Wilson might be sold and that money reinvested elsewhere? He is the golden glove winner and it's hard to see his stock rising much higher than now? Seems well liked and played a part in our success so hope he stays.

With new confirmed signings, I often look at the fans reaction of the team we are buying the player from and it does on the whole seem like he will be missed by most Barnsley fans

[Official Site] BRAD COLLINS JOINS COVENTRY CITY

BRAD COLLINS JOINS COVENTRY CITY Club News We can confirm that Brad Collins has today joined Sky Bet Championship outfit Coventry City for an...
barnsleyfc.org.uk
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I had that thought too. I did think we might have seen Wilson being the subject of gossip etc but there's been very little - even less about Moore. My guess is they'll save some wages if they can move Moore, being a senior pro, making the transfer cost neutral to a plus in that respect.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #236
We needed another goalkeeper simple as that. Simon Moore will be moved on, id think Wilson will carry on from last season and Collins will have to wait his chance unless Mark Robins sees him as his better keeper.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #237
SleepyGinger said:
I wouldn’t put it past Robins to start Collins against Leicester
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If Wilson is still here and fit he will start.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #238
Hopefully he comes into the side Saturday otherwise it’s looking like more money wasted.
 
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Martin180

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #239
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Hopefully he comes into the side Saturday otherwise it’s looking like more money wasted.
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Wilson hasn't looked half the player this season, fair enough we've lost Doyle and McNally but tonight was dreadful
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #240
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Hopefully he comes into the side Saturday otherwise it’s looking like more money wasted.
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More money wasted I’m afraid. He looked poor against Wimbledon and in one of the pre season games.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #241
CV22SBA said:
More money wasted I’m afraid. He looked poor against Wimbledon and in one of the pre season games.
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Then that’s a shocker if we spent the reported figure and he’s not going to be our long term goalkeeper.

It does feel like the signings of him, Da Silva, Palmer, Kane etc. doesn’t go far beyond being ex Chelsea youth
 
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ptr

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #242
I would say Collins deserves a go but if he does drop Wilson think that’s it for him. So hard to return as a goalkeeper after being dropped. Ask Moore, Marosi etc.
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #243
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Then that’s a shocker if we spent the reported figure and he’s not going to be our long term goalkeeper.

It does feel like the signings of him, Da Silva, Palmer, Kane etc. doesn’t go far beyond being ex Chelsea youth
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The 'Chelsea kids' transfer policy feels like a bunch of mates being half-cut in a boozer talking about a lad at school who was awesome at footy & can't work out why he's not at Real Madrid!
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #244
ptr said:
I would say Collins deserves a go but if he does drop Wilson think that’s it for him. So hard to return as a goalkeeper after being dropped. Ask Moore, Marosi etc.
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Wilson went the bulk of 2021/22 and the very beginning of last season second fiddle to Moore to be fair
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #245
I’m surprised Collins hasn’t played yet. Another one signed as he once was seen at Stamford Bridge
 
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