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Confirmed ACL in CET (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter dongonzalos
  • Start date Jun 11, 2013
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dongonzalos

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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THE part council owned company that runs the Ricoh Arena has bid to buy the Sky Blues.

The Telegraph has learned of Ricoh firm Arena Coventry Limited’s dramatic swoop to buy Coventry City Football Club Limited out of administration - a closely guarded secret until now.

It will be seen as controversial by some, given the potential for taxpayer involvement in the loss-making club relegated last year to the third tier of English football.

Coventry City Council leaders themselves had previously maintained it is not the business of a taxpayer-funded council to own the football club, which last year recorded annual losses of £6.7million and is up to £70million in debt.

But we can reveal ACL is one of what is believed to be six parties which submitted an “indicative bid” with administrator Paul Appleton in time for last Friday’s deadline.

ACL is now working on the details to meet Mr Appleton’s final deadline of Thursday for bidders’ “best and final offers”.

ACL is an arms-length private company set up by Coventry City Council in 2003 when it stepped in to ensure the Ricoh project went ahead. It is jointly owned by the council and Alan Edward Higgs Charity.

The council and ACL want to unite the club and Ricoh - and see potential profit for the “sleeping giant” club and taxpayer if the club can secure commercial revenues from the stadium.

Until now, leading councillors and ACL have favoured a new private investor stepping in to take over the club from hedge fund Sisu, and become partners in the stadium.

If successful, ACL’s bid to buy CCFC Ltd could keep the Sky Blues playing home matches at the Ricoh.

Sisu-owned Coventry City Football Club (Holdings) Limited - which has continued to operate the club after related hedge fund Arvo placed CCFC Ltd in administration - is threatening to build a new stadium within three years and take the club out of the city in the meantime.

More than 13,000 people have signed a Telegraph petition to keep the Sky Blues in Coventry.

ACL is bidding against Sisu/Holdings to buy whatever assets are in CCFC Ltd.

Those assets could include the Football League’s golden share, which grants the club a licence to play in the league.

It ACL becomes the administrator’s preferred bidder after Thursday’s deadline - it would have to hold discussions with Sisu and Holdings, which holds the players’ contracts.

Holdings boss Tim Fisher insists “the club is not for sale”.

Council leaders insist ACL is a sustainable business with or without a football club - and its last accounts recorded a £1million profit.

But, in January, councillors agreed in private to use £14million of taxpayer “cash balances” to bail out the Ricoh company by buying out its mortgage - with ACL under financial pressure from lost football-related sponsorship and the club’s refusal to pay rent.

The council and ACL have been locked in a legal and financial dispute with Sisu over stadium rent, ownership and revenues.

Another bidder hoping to buy CCFC Ltd is the party headed by suspended Sky Blues life-president Joe Elliott and ex-director Gary Hoffman, with potential investment from US property magnate Preston Haskell IV.

But a bid by North Warwickshire-based businessman Michael Byng, with Chinese investment, is out of the running - after the Telegraph was told he had failed to submit an emailed indicative bid before Friday’s deadline.

Mr Byng insists he had done so, as we reported, and said he was “checking transmission records”.

The administrator announcement yesterday of Thursday’s final deadline has raised fans’ hopes he is close to announcing his preferred bidder, or bidders - who would then have to be assessed by the Football League.

The identities of remaining bidders are not known. But sources claim two other bids are “strong contenders” and come from businessmen previously involved with football. Mr Appleton’s statement said: “I believe the sale process must conclude quickly in order that arrangements can be made for the participation (in the league) of Coventry City Football Club in the forthcoming season.”
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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I assume the council will back them they buy it out and sell it to someone as a package 50% of ACL and the football club.

Fingers crossed.
 

bamalamafizzfazz

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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Stuart Linnell said at the forum that he had spoken to Michael Byng and despite his investors wanting to drop out he had convinced them to stay in and an offer has been made. Which is it?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #4
bamalamafizzfazz said:
Stuart Linnell said at the forum that he had spoken to Michael Byng and despite his investors wanting to drop out he had convinced them to stay in and an offer has been made. Which is it?
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I hope he hasn't bid then, the last thing you want us new owners who have been dragged into the bidding.
 
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Sky blue north east

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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Well it seems to me that the cinese out the running,were'nt convinced by this byng bloke another dhinsa looking for publicity maybe ?
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #6
This could actually be a good move, ACL buys ltd out of admin, then ACL & Club are sold wholesale to Haskell & Co. Council keep hold of the bricks and mortar so that they still have a finger in the pie.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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Not very ethical to distress CCFC to get them cheap.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #8
Deleted member 5849 said:
Not very ethical to distress CCFC to get them cheap.
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Not going to be cheap though is it. Ltd may have the golden share but it has bugger all else. If they want the players from SISU then they are going to have to pay for them.
 

Samo

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #9
Deleted member 5849 said:
Not very ethical to distress CCFC to get them cheap.
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Haha! Hilarious!
 

kg82

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #10
Did they not get a £14million bail out from the council recently?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #11
Yep............
 
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Cranfield Sky Blue

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #12
dongonzalos said:
Yep............
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Not strictly a bail out, it was effectively a re-mortgage??
 

duffer

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Not very ethical to distress CCFC to get them cheap.
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If ACL were planning to distress CCFC why did they negotiate a rent decrease?
 

italiahorse

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #14
Deleted member 5849 said:
Not very ethical to distress CCFC to get them cheap.
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Engage brain before opening mouth :facepalm:
 
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RPHunt

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #15
One thing this bid does show - ACL and the council are not at all worried about the Judicial Review.
 
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Cranfield Sky Blue

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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duffer said:
If ACL were planning to distress CCFC why did they negotiate a rent decrease?
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Think you may have just been a victim of irony.....
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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italiahorse said:
Engage brain before opening mouth :facepalm:
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Fisher said the council had an agenda for trying to put CCFC into administration, it's becoming clear now.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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Cranfield Sky Blue said:
Not strictly a bail out, it was effectively a re-mortgage??
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Les Reid stated he had seen papers given to those voting on the loan that stated if they didn't approve the loan ACL would be insolvent.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #19
dongonzalos said:
I assume the council will back them they buy it out and sell it to someone as a package 50% of ACL and the football club.
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Don't really see the point of owning 50% of ACL, think the club needs to own 100% and unless there's a plan to do that at some point all that's really happening is Higgs being moved out.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #20
only at CCFC could we have potential billionaire chineese powerhouses looking to buy us, but their email didnt get sent !
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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ccfcway said:
only at CCFC could we have potential billionaire chineese powerhouses looking to buy us, but their email didnt get sent !
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If he is so incompetent as to rely on an unreliable media & not have backup (ie registered courier etc) then he isn't worth worrying about.

Anyway, email is a story, the real issue is that his investors have cold feet, so even if he bids I suspect he will dip out sooner or later.
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #22
Media Hungry for PR or Stalking Horse , take your pick.
 

skyblueman

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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Manchester_sky_blue said:
Not going to be cheap though is it. Ltd may have the golden share but it has bugger all else. If they want the players from SISU then they are going to have to pay for them.
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The players??? Hardly a deal breaker is it
 

covcity4life

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #24
what we need is the badge and name

players dont matter and thats not a joke
 
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SkyBlueBlood

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #25
Manchester_sky_blue said:
Not going to be cheap though is it. Ltd may have the golden share but it has bugger all else. If they want the players from SISU then they are going to have to pay for them.
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Can't pay SISU for them though as that would be 3rd party as they would not be a football club and the players contracts would be in breech.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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SkyBlueBlood said:
Can't pay SISU for them though as that would be 3rd party as they would not be a football club and the players contracts would be in breech.
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Im not sure that rule applies when you buy a club out of administration
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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skyblueman said:
The players??? Hardly a deal breaker is it
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I know what you mean but the club has to have the academy players and it would be tricky to build an entire new first team squad in the time available
 

Sub

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #28
Manchester_sky_blue said:
I know what you mean but the club has to have the academy players and it would be tricky to build an entire new first team squad in the time available
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we seem to do that every season after we have a new manager
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #29
IF anybody else gets Ltd withthe right tto play in the FL the players in Holdings walk because their right to ply their trade cannot be fulfilled by Holdings I would have thought. High Court anyone?
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #30
Rangers in reverse.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #31
Sounds crazy and unlikely but if you were not held accountable for holdings and its contracts.

You potentially could have the contract with the Ricoh. The option buy half of ACL with a view to buying all.

Not have to worry about the likes if David Bell on six k a week.

You could enquire about setting up a new academy, building that deal into your deal with Higgs to purchase their share.

Then in theory if you are not tied into the contracts of holdings you will have your pick of players if you can convince them to sign. You also free up the ones you don't want.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
IF anybody else gets Ltd withthe right tto play in the FL the players in Holdings walk because their right to ply their trade cannot be fulfilled by Holdings I would have thought. High Court anyone?
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If they become no longer contracted to a club with the right to play in a league then I should imagine their registrations revert to the FA.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 11, 2013
  • #33
Jack Griffin said:
If they become no longer contracted to a club with the right to play in a league then I should imagine their registrations revert to the FA.
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PFA aren't going to stand for that I wouldn't have thought. If there's a CCFC in the FL next season they will expect players contracts to be honoured. The FL will have to do something to move the registrations and the share together. The issue will be what compensation SISU demand and if they take any further legal action. This could be why the FL is staying very quiet, they're hoping SISU take over ltd and then they won't have to deal with the problem.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jun 11, 2013
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chiefdave said:
PFA aren't going to stand for that I wouldn't have thought. If there's a CCFC in the FL next season they will expect players contracts to be honoured. The FL will have to do something to move the registrations and the share together. The issue will be what compensation SISU demand and if they take any further legal action. This could be why the FL is staying very quiet, they're hoping SISU take over ltd and then they won't have to deal with the problem.
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Sure, they'll end up playing for whoever controls the club when the dust settles.. meaning the squad will transfer lock stock & barrel to any new owner.
 
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