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Collins signs for Luton (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jun 29, 2017
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steve82

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #36
covcity4life said:
do we not get compensation fee for willis if he goes next summer?

willis and g thomas would be first teamers imo. stevenson would play his fair share of games over course of season
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Yes we would. shame situation as George.


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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #37
Am I surprised? No, he chose Swindon over us the last time we were in for him and I didn't expect differently this time.
 

larry_david

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #38
Truth with Collins is, he scores goals from 8 yards out, he don't do much more. Needs it on a plate as well. I backed Northampton for the title in league 2 so when they signed Collins I saw a bit of him and he scored about 9 goals but every one was from about 2yards out. They had Ricky Holmes and John marquis doing the creative stuff and he finished it. Am I disappointed? Yes. Is there better out there available and willing for cheaper, almost certainly
 
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oucho

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #39
For all those disappointed we've missed Collins, I say who cares....we'll finish above Luton and we'll score more goals than them, regardless of how many Collins gets. I have a good feeling about this one.
 
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coop

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #40
no_loyalty said:
Reuben Reid's contract with Exeter ends on the 30th June, he could be an option?
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Shit
 

steve82

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #41
larry_david said:
Truth with Collins is, he scores goals from 8 yards out, he don't do much more. Needs it on a plate as well. I backed Northampton for the title in league 2 so when they signed Collins I saw a bit of him and he scored about 9 goals but every one was from about 2yards out. They had Ricky Holmes and John marquis doing the creative stuff and he finished it. Am I disappointed? Yes. Is there better out there available and willing for cheaper, almost certainly
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That's what the role of a target man does? Scores goals from in the box while everyone supplies him.



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steve82

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #42
Striker reveals he asked Crawley to let him join Luton


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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #43
Beside himself to come here then.
 
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steve82

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #44
Nick said:
Beside himself to come here then.
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Think he fancies Luton more than cov.

That said I think they are a better option for promotion than us currently but he could of swung that


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vow

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #45
Personally, I'd offer G. Thomas a little more in his wage packet now.
 
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larry_david

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #46
Aren't mcnulty and the new Sutton guy supposed to be the powerful, strong in the air target men though? We need George Thomas /John marquis type tricky runners to compliment those two.
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #47
vow said:
Personally, I'd offer G. Thomas a little more in his wage packet now.
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Why do fans think we have any chance of keeping Thomas? If a host of premier league and championship want him, along with the wages that brings, then we have zero chance whether we want him to stay or not. Truth is he had half a good season and is replaceable right now.
 

vow

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #48
Garryb80 said:
Why do fans think we have any chance of keeping Thomas? If a host of premier league and championship want him, along with the wages that brings, then we have zero chance whether we want him to stay or not. Truth is he had half a good season and is replaceable right now.
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It's all speculation so far regarding clubs higher up wanting him.
Agreed he had half a good season when played regularly and improved ten-fold, so for that reason I want him to stay.
 

steve82

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #49
I think 99% of us want George to stay and hope he carries on the form he found but the ball ain't in our court on this one. It's all his choice now

I think a few of the fan base may favour the reported 500k compensation fee in exchange.

I can see why, "if allowed" to reinvest back into the team then thats very handy to improve the current squad.


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Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #50
Nick said:
Beside himself to come here then.
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If you read the article he talks about the importance of being close to home. His preference was the city, obviously Crawley would not accept our offer. He was always going to move and I guess he heard that we would not meet the Crawley valuation and needed to make the decision to go to Luton. I don't think it's the end of the world, if we still have cash to play with I trust Robins to find the right player.
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #51
vow said:
It's all speculation so far regarding clubs higher up wanting him.
Agreed he had half a good season when played regularly and improved ten-fold, so for that reason I want him to stay.
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We all want him to stay but offering a few extra pounds isn't the clincher in this deal really is it? If he wants to go then there is nothing we can do about it.
 

Nick

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #52
Garryb80 said:
We all want him to stay but offering a few extra pounds isn't the clincher in this deal really is it? If he wants to go then there is nothing we can do about it.
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There's no way a few extra quid would get close to what he would going into a Premier League U23 squad.
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #53
Nick said:
There's no way a few extra quid would get close to what he would going into a Premier League U23 squad.
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Exactly. Some fans seem to think they we should be offering what they can when firstly we cant afford to and secondly he isn't worth it anyway.The compensation figure quoted sounds realistic to me and I wouldn't object to that happening.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #54
Garryb80 said:
Exactly. Some fans seem to think they we should be offering what they can when firstly we cant afford to and secondly he isn't worth it anyway.The compensation figure quoted sounds realistic to me and I wouldn't object to that happening.
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But if he's going i want it to happen now so MR can move on other targets.
 
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smileycov

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #55
Hope we helped push the cost up and he has a shite season lol
 

vow

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #56
Garryb80 said:
he isn't worth it anyway
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Garryb80 said:
We all want him to stay
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Garryb80 said:
Truth is he had half a good season and is replaceable right now.
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So you do want him stay or not? I believe he is worth it, by offering him a better contract now.
We should be trying to keep our talent by offering contracts early, but GT bloomed late on in the season as he was inconsistent at the start and I for one never thought he would make a footballing career, but I was proved wrong.
 
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steve82

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #57
Liquid Gold said:
But if he's going i want it to happen now so MR can move on other targets.
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I'd imagine it will be concluded in the next 2 weeks.

He's not gonna fancy not being part of a group training alone.


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Super_Johnny_Gayle

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #58
Maybe Robins didn't want to blow his load on 1 player.
 

steve82

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #59
vow said:
So you do want him stay or not? I believe he is worth it, by offering him a better contract now.
We should be trying to keep our talent by offering contracts early, but GT bloomed late on in the season as he was inconsistent at the start and I for one never thought he would make a footballing career, but I was proved wrong.
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It's not as simple as offering a new contract.
We cannot offer what he can get higher up the leagues and we cannot break any possible wage caps at the club just to try and secure him.
It upsets the balance of the group and others will want new deals and gives players more power to negotiate when renewing contracts.


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Nick

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #60
then when you have guaranteed first team appearances, how can you guarantee if his form dips and Vincenti is doing better than him for example?
 
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vow

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #61
steve82 said:
It's not as simple as offering a new contract.
We cannot offer what he can get higher up the leagues and we cannot break any possible wage caps at the club just to try and secure him.
It upsets the balance of the group and others will want new deals and gives players more power to negotiate when renewing contracts.
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He's our best player, he deserves a better contract than most. If he doesn't wanna stay and wants to go higher up, good luck to him, he'll earn even more.

Nick said:
then when you have guaranteed first team appearances, how can you guarantee if his form dips and Vincenti is doing better than him for example?
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How do you know MR has guaranteed anyone first team apps? It's a squad as far as I'm concerned and players gotta battle for first team places and I reckon MR prolly thinks that way too and hasn't guaranteed anyone a place and btw that's just football if someones form dips.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #62
larry_david said:
Truth with Collins is, he scores goals from 8 yards out, he don't do much more. Needs it on a plate as well. I backed Northampton for the title in league 2 so when they signed Collins I saw a bit of him and he scored about 9 goals but every one was from about 2yards out. They had Ricky Holmes and John marquis doing the creative stuff and he finished it. Am I disappointed? Yes. Is there better out there available and willing for cheaper, almost certainly
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Can someone let Gary Lineker know he was shit please?
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #63
vow said:
So you do want him stay or not? I believe he is worth it, by offering him a better contract now.
We should be trying to keep our talent by offering contracts early, but GT bloomed late on in the season as he was inconsistent at the start and I for one never thought he would make a footballing career, but I was proved wrong.
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Yes I do but he isn't worth the money some on here claim we should offer him.
 

Si80

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #64
All this talk of Collins being a 20+ goals a season striker, thought I'd check wiki to see his stats.

He's notched 20 once in 6 seasons where he's played 35+ games. Going on that I'm not sure we've missed out on the 20+ a season goalscorer he's been lauded as on here.
 

pastythegreat

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #65
Skybluefaz said:
He did want to come to Cov though.
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Yeah that's why he signed for us..... oh wait!!

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woody11462

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #66
pastythegreat said:
Yeah that's why he signed for us..... oh wait!!

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He can't sign for us if we never agree a fee. Luton appear to have some finances available so they were always favourites.
 
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Chipfat

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #67
If we never had a bid accepted then talks with the player would of only been between his agent and us in regards to what he is on, what we could offer in additions and length of deal . So even if he wanted to come, without that agreement between the clubs we were never an option for him when it really came down to it.

Luton will compete agian this season at the top end of the table, he just adds to a decent squad for L2 for them.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jun 29, 2017
  • #68
On the bright side we should see Glenn soon
 

pastythegreat

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  • Jun 30, 2017
  • #69
steve82 said:
That's what the role of a target man does? Scores goals from in the box while everyone supplies him.



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No, thats a poachers job. A target man will work hard and be strong, hold the ball up and bring other players around him into play. And maybe chip in with a few headers from set pieces.

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larry_david

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  • Jun 30, 2017
  • #70
clint van damme said:
Can someone let Gary Lineker know he was shit please?
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Are you actually comparing Gary Lineker with a striker who's never made it past League 2? Wow... That's skyblueruffian bad mate
 
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