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Evo1883

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #316
Gynnsthetonic said:
Probably because I don't think he's any good. It worked perfectly well before. Too many cooks and all that!
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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That's fine , but you can't tell me I'm crying about rob gurney when you've been slagging him off for over a year mate come on .. suggesting fans should lay off him is more than reasonable
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #317
Evo1883 said:
That's fine , but you can't tell me I'm crying about rob gurney when you've been slagging him off for over a year mate come on .. suggesting fans should lay off him is more than reasonable
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I wish him no ill but he's a BBC presenter, people will have there opinions. He should be thick skinned or he shouldn't be doing the job. Do you think people like Lineker and Vine don't have there critics
 

biggymania

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #318
I like Rob & he holds a special place in the heart of a lot of us because of all he's been through with Coventry back in the good/bad old days.

I also enjoy much of the debates, arguments and teasing between him, Clive & Oggy. I get annoyed at Clive a lot for getting names wrong (almost any dark skinned player seems interchangeable to his eyes) but having been forced to listen to comms from our opponents a fair bit on iFollow, we are extremely lucky to have the team we have, there are few better.

Since Rob's return to CWR, I definitely have noticed how negative he tends to be when commenting during the game particularly, he can kind of suck the energy out of it. I think this is really because he's a fan and really incapable of separating that from perhaps the tone he / we might prefer. Last night's phone in was a bit over the top and "meta".

If I had Rob's ear I'd just encourage him to ease off a little bit and perhaps skip the self-referential texts / emails / calls for a while and focus on the football and genuine contributions. People will soon get bored of this and we'll all enjoy ourselves a bit more.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #319
biggymania said:
I like Rob & he holds a special place in the heart of a lot of us because of all he's been through with Coventry back in the good/bad old days.

I also enjoy much of the debates, arguments and teasing between him, Clive & Oggy. I get annoyed at Clive a lot for getting names wrong (almost any dark skinned player seems interchangeable to his eyes) but having been forced to listen to comms from our opponents a fair bit on iFollow, we are extremely lucky to have the team we have, there are few better.

Since Rob's return to CWR, I definitely have noticed how negative he tends to be when commenting during the game particularly, he can kind of suck the energy out of it. I think this is really because he's a fan and really incapable of separating that from perhaps the tone he / we might prefer. Last night's phone in was a bit over the top and "meta".

If I had Rob's ear I'd just encourage him to ease off a little bit and perhaps skip the self-referential texts / emails / calls for a while and focus on the football and genuine contributions. People will soon get bored of this and we'll all enjoy ourselves a bit more.
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A perfectly reasonable post .. without the unnecessary nastiness
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #320
Evo1883 said:
A perfectly reasonable post .. without the unnecessary nastiness
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He wasn’t with us as a pundit in the bad days. He left as soon as we were relegated and commented on Aston Villa
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #321
Grendel said:
He wasn’t with us as a pundit in the bad days. He left as soon as we were relegated and commented on Aston Villa
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Which is why you dislike him , just say that
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #322
Grendel said:
He wasn’t with us as a pundit in the bad days. He left as soon as we were relegated and commented on Aston Villa
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So he got promoted?
 

covcity4life

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  • Feb 12, 2025
  • #323
I don't wish him any Ill will I just prefer the phone in when Clive used to do it.
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #324
Why was he questioning the attendance,it didn't seem off to me, like the old days of Wasps it was?
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #325
wingy said:
Why was he questioning the attendance,it didn't seem off to me, like the old days of Wasps it was?
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Inside the ground there were a lot less than 24,000 but it’s just season ticket holders clearly stayed at home
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #326
Grendel said:
Inside the ground there were a lot less than 24,000 but it’s just season ticket holders clearly stayed at home
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He was obsessed with it though, we all know a lot ST holders didn't turn up, he didn't shut up about it either. Same when he was calling Blackburns support pathetic
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #327
I've got nothing against him as a person but he's incredibly negative and is overly forceful with his opinions.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #328
Gynnsthetonic said:
He was obsessed with it though, we all know a lot ST holders didn't turn up, he didn't shut up about it either. Same when he was calling Blackburns support pathetic
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To be fair Clive is obsessed with gloves and pink boots.
 
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Joy Division

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #329
Grendel said:
He wasn’t with us as a pundit in the bad days. He left as soon as we were relegated and commented on Aston Villa
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He was forced out by Strachan/Richardson who banned him from the club for speaking out about him and the owners. So not leaving as a choice of his own really.
 

usskyblue

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #330
Kinell.. talk about old men yelling at clouds

Sure fire sign we’re winning too many fuckinggames recently.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #331
Joy Division said:
He was forced out by Strachan/Richardson who banned him from the club for speaking out about him and the owners. So not leaving as a choice of his own really.
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He works for the BBC, so it would have been inevitable. At this rate the same will happen again.
 
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Theonlywayisskyblue

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #332
Blimey what an odd thread this is I listened also on Tuesday and the only point worth making is that Rob turned it into the Rob Gurney show rather than a post-match phone in which is what it's supposed to be. It's the same with any presenter in the media - as soon as the story's about you then it's time to turn off - which is what I did and from the comments it's what quite a few others did also
 
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rob9872

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #333
Normally, I listen to the phone in, but with the rest of my accas in and finished, I was waiting on Forest to beat Exeter against 10 men with 10 mins injury time and the big guns on. Never happened and cost me a fekkin grand. Wish I'd listened to Rob's ramblings instead
 

Incognitocov

Active Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #334
SomersetSB said:
I enjoy listening to them on I follow, they are passionate about our club.
Not sure what people want really!!
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To know at least our players’ names?
 

JimmyHillsbeard

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #335
I prefer to have Rob Gurney on the radio talking about Cov than not but his return has made me appreciate Clive Eakin a little more if I’m honest.

RG crossed a boundary over the change of manager. Wrote on the BBC website that King was obviously waiting for an excuse to sack Robins and the three game winning streak only postponed what was inevitable as soon as we lost to Derby.

Subsequently he (although he was not the worst in this regard - that was Lorna Bailey) mistook the role of the radio station at the Dougfest fans’ forum. In their eagerness to “represent the fans” they forgot to analyse the “news” coming from the club and they missed out several juicy pieces of information that Doug King and Dean Austin said that night. Instead they repeated most of the lines that King had rebutted in the opening minute of his statement. Tbh many a club owner would have refused to deal with him or his organisation after such hostility.

I didn’t hear what RG said after the Norwich game. I was at the game and not listening and was too angry myself with the outcome (esp Lati’s failure to tackle after getting back into position despite being fouled in the run up to their winner) to be bothered to listen online, but there was a hostile atmosphere among our fans - and for the first time I can ever remember from some Norwich fans towards us.

Listening to the phone in on the way home up north lately RG has been a fan. He was angry after the Leeds game feeling we didn’t even try to compete, he was amused by a lucky victory over QPR and was refusing to see recent results as evidence of an inevitable march to the premier league. I am largely in agreement with both of these views but he sounded snippy and self-obsessed on Tuesday night. It didn’t make for good broadcasting.

All in all, something isn’t right. I hope it gets back to normal as I was pleased to welcome his return but I suspect eyebrows will have been raised at the radio station and probably at the club.
 
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rob9872

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #336
If he is a big City fan, I'd be surprised I'd he isn't at least aware of this place or being from the area, that someone wouldn't have at least pointed it out to him to read. He might even be a contributor although I doubt he'd break cover to acknowledge that (especially as most of us have at best checkered posting history on many topics ccfc related and otherwise to be used against us) but I'd genuinely like to read his input to many of the comments on here.

Fwiw (and if you are reading Rob then apologies) I'm not a big fan. I'm at most games so only hear the phone ins and not the commentary, but I don't like his style or his tone. I'm not a huge fan of Oggy on there either. They're often quite dismissive of alternative views to their own (a bit like on here) which is disappointing for a show that can't really survive without opinion. Then they agree with people like Nick from Birmingham who phones up but never goes to the game and has an opinion based on what their commentary was, which of course is in line with their thinking as he's basing his argument on what they've said.

Needs some new blood all round I think.
 
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EalingSB

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #337
I was genuinely concerned for Rob on Tuesday. I found it very odd that he said the words to the Bobby Thomas song twice albeit without the swearing and he definitely went down a rabbit hole and made it about him unfortunately. Would make sense for the production staff to screen the texts, assuming they have the personnel, to help the show to flow better.

I think Clive and Oggy are great. Clive has delivered some iconic goal comms and I think Oggy has come on loads, is erudite and worth listening to. Having listened to comms from other clubs, we’re doing pretty well with these guys.

Great comms for an iconic moment
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #338
JimmyHillsbeard said:
RG crossed a boundary over the change of manager. Wrote on the BBC website that King was obviously waiting for an excuse to sack Robins and the three game winning streak only postponed what was inevitable as soon as we lost to Derby.
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This is best conspiracy of them all. King was so desperate to sack Robins that he gave him and AV new contracts not all that long ago.
 
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SkyBluePower

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #339
Problem is he is Sports Editor which should carry a bit of responsibility.
Instead he sounds like the lowest common denominator caller with his views - he was goading people on the phone ins to call for Robins to be sacked then acted all hurt when it happened ( the fans forum fiasco)
The club and players will be giving him a very wide berth which isn’t right either- can’t see him ever interviewing Lampard or King ever again.
The BBC also have a duty of care to remove him for a while as he is clearly suffering . CWR doesn’t have a great record in this area ( Russell Joslin being bullied by Liz Kershaw)
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #340
Sick Boy said:
This is best conspiracy of them all. King was so desperate to sack Robins that he gave him and AV new contracts not all that long ago.
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Robins and Viveash signed their new contracts in May 23, was, Gurney saying King wanted to sack them then?

Or was he referring to the rumours doing the rounds at Preston away on Oct 19th 24 that Robins was going and Lampard was coming in?

Because I doubt King decided to sack Robins the day before he did so if he's intimating he'd decided weeks before that's just standard practice in football.

Not sure why he'd bring it up but equally not sure why people get touchy about it and refer to it as a conspiracy either. It happens all the time.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #341
clint van damme said:
Robins and Viveash signed their new contracts in May 23, was, Gurney saying King wanted to sack them then?

Or was he referring to the rumours doing the rounds at Preston away on Oct 19th 24 that Robins was going and Lampard was coming in?

Because I doubt King decided to sack Robins the day before he did so if he's intimating he'd decided weeks before that's just standard practice in football.

Not sure why he'd bring it up but equally not sure why people get touchy about it and refer to it as a conspiracy either. It happens all the time.
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It’s not being touchy and King wasn’t desperate or looking for an excuse to sack Robins. He lost his job because results weren’t good enough and we needed a change.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #342
Sick Boy said:
It’s not being touchy and King wasn’t desperate or looking for an excuse to sack Robins. He lost his job because results weren’t good enough and we needed a change.
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But the rumours started in October so I'm not sure how you can dismiss something as a conspiracy if it comes true!
I heard the rumours and they were posted in one of my WhatsApp groups on Oct 20th, I thought it was bollocks but clearly it wasn't.


Yes, it was based on results, but it seems King had made his mind up for a few weeks, that's not a King thing, or a CCFC thing it's just a football thing so it's nothing earth shattering, (look at the recent saga with the West Ham manager).

But using words like conspiracy is just using language to try and belittle people who don't agree with you, which is doubly ridiculous when what they say actually comes true.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #343
clint van damme said:
But the rumours started in October so I'm not sure how you can dismiss something as a conspiracy if it comes true!
I heard the rumours and they were posted in one of my WhatsApp groups on Oct 20th, I thought it was bollocks but clearly it wasn't.


Yes, it was based on results, but it seems King had made his mind up for a few weeks, that's not a King thing, or a CCFC thing it's just a football thing so it's nothing earth shattering, (look at the recent saga with the West Ham manager).

But using words like conspiracy is just using language to try and belittle people who don't agree with you, which is doubly ridiculous when what they say actually comes true.
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Perhaps conspiracy was the wrong word but he lost his job because of results and nothing else.
 

AOM

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #344
EalingSB said:
I was genuinely concerned for Rob on Tuesday. I found it very odd that he said the words to the Bobby Thomas song twice albeit without the swearing and he definitely went down a rabbit hole and made it about him unfortunately. Would make sense for the production staff to screen the texts, assuming they have the personnel, to help the show to flow better.

I think Clive and Oggy are great. Clive has delivered some iconic goal comms and I think Oggy has come on loads, is erudite and worth listening to. Having listened to comms from other clubs, we’re doing pretty well with these guys.

Great comms for an iconic moment
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Clive's voice cracks when we score late are genuinely brilliant.

Do agree about the filtering of messages sent to the CWR commentary team as well. I'm surprised there isn't some kind of editing in place, and I think they literally do just read what gets sent to them over Twitter or text.
BBC budgeting and all that I guess
 
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SkyBluePower

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #345
Yep it’s an unfiltered feed and the presenter has to make the editing choice live. Hence the amount of repeats of comments already read out .
 
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rob9872

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #346
Surely someone filtering if they don't know or understand the situation wouldn't have a handle on what to filter and if they do would only filter those that agree with their own line. I don't mind them being unfiltered, also many of the same opinion might make someone think if there is a trend rather than one message. What he needs to do is take out the personal and emotional stuff.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #347
AOM said:
Clive's voice cracks when we score late are genuinely brilliant.

Do agree about the filtering of messages sent to the CWR commentary team as well. I'm surprised there isn't some kind of editing in place, and I think they literally do just read what gets sent to them over Twitter or text.
BBC budgeting and all that I guess
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His commentary of the liam Walsh goal was fabulous too
 
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AOM

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #348
rob9872 said:
Surely someone filtering if they don't know or understand the situation wouldn't have a handle on what to filter and if they do would only filter those that agree with their own line. I don't mind them being unfiltered, also many of the same opinion might make someone think if there is a trend rather than one message. What he needs to do is take out the personal and emotional stuff.
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Yeah, I agree that any footballing opinions should be valid and sent through for discussion.
I meant more things like abuse (Rob said he received a nasty message on Tuesday night), but I guess that could be him reading his direct messages rather than something sent to CWR's text number
 

Captain Dart

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #349
JimmyHillsbeard said:
I prefer to have Rob Gurney on the radio talking about Cov than not but his return has made me appreciate Clive Eakin a little more if I’m honest.

RG crossed a boundary over the change of manager. Wrote on the BBC website that King was obviously waiting for an excuse to sack Robins and the three game winning streak only postponed what was inevitable as soon as we lost to Derby.

Subsequently he (although he was not the worst in this regard - that was Lorna Bailey) mistook the role of the radio station at the Dougfest fans’ forum. In their eagerness to “represent the fans” they forgot to analyse the “news” coming from the club and they missed out several juicy pieces of information that Doug King and Dean Austin said that night. Instead they repeated most of the lines that King had rebutted in the opening minute of his statement. Tbh many a club owner would have refused to deal with him or his organisation after such hostility.

I didn’t hear what RG said after the Norwich game. I was at the game and not listening and was too angry myself with the outcome (esp Lati’s failure to tackle after getting back into position despite being fouled in the run up to their winner) to be bothered to listen online, but there was a hostile atmosphere among our fans - and for the first time I can ever remember from some Norwich fans towards us.

Listening to the phone in on the way home up north lately RG has been a fan. He was angry after the Leeds game feeling we didn’t even try to compete, he was amused by a lucky victory over QPR and was refusing to see recent results as evidence of an inevitable march to the premier league. I am largely in agreement with both of these views but he sounded snippy and self-obsessed on Tuesday night. It didn’t make for good broadcasting.

All in all, something isn’t right. I hope it gets back to normal as I was pleased to welcome his return but I suspect eyebrows will have been raised at the radio station and probably at the club.
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"Dougfest", is this an annual event.
 
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SBbucks

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #350
Sky Blue Wozza said:
People saying Rob Gurney “ruined” the post-match phone in.

It’s not the high-mark of Reithian output. It’s a local football phone-in!

Try listening to any other regional Beeb footvall ouput and you’ll realise how good you have it in Cov.

Whenever I listen, and before it goes out of range, it’s always an entertaining listen. As others have said, the paucity and quality of the fans calling in doesn’t give them an awful lot to work with.

In short, Gurney/ Eakin/ Ogrizovic rule.
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Listen to it on BBC Sounds app and it will never go out of range..
 
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