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  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Jul 20, 2022
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #106

Science | AAAS

www.science.org
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #107
eastwoodsdustman said:
CO2 Emissions per Capita
#CountryCO2 Emissions per capita (tons)
1China7.38
2United States15.52
3India1.91
4Russia11.44

There's the problem.
We do more than most and produce 1% of the worlds emissions. Whatever we do as a country wont matter a jot if the above don't get their acts together.
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Even if we do nothing to mitigate carbon emissions (which I think is both morally reprehensible and stupid strategy if you’re trying to move others) we’d have to spend trillions on flood defences, infrastructure upgrades, home retrofits, etc for the new climate.

There’s no “do nothing” option here. There’s spend a little and have clean air and hope others follow your lead and there’s spend a lot and hope for the best.

Also we’re not a million miles behind China here and have exported a load of out emissions to them through manufacturing and shipping.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #108
Deleted member 5849 said:
You think if everyone was eating a vegan diet they'd stop deforestation? They get rid of things for whatever's most profitable and don't really care if that's a cow or a carrot, so the main thing to do in that example would be to compensate people fairly for keeping their trees.
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There’s enough land to grow crops for human consumption. Meat and dairy has the double whammy of needs land for grazing, needs land to grow crops for animal feed. We’re actually sending aid to countries in developing countries that are growing crops to feed animals for western markets. They need hand outs because they’re feeding us instead of themselves.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #109
shmmeee said:
Even if we do nothing to mitigate carbon emissions (which I think is both morally reprehensible and stupid strategy if you’re trying to move others) we’d have to spend trillions on flood defences, infrastructure upgrades, home retrofits, etc for the new climate.

There’s no “do nothing” option here. There’s spend a little and have clean air and hope others follow your lead and there’s spend a lot and hope for the best.

Also we’re not a million miles behind China here and have exported a load of out emissions to them through manufacturing and shipping.
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No, but there's a do too Little too late option which I think is the course we're on and will stay on until we're in deep shit.
I can't see us getting out of this.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #110
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Apart from the methane etc. and the energy used in other areas of the production process like butchery, we could change land use from grazing or growing animal crops to other plants which could have a greater ability to store carbon. Of course some of that land would need to be used to make alternative crops to replace the meat eaten but would still be better.
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Takes a 1000ltr of water to produce 1 steak.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #111
clint van damme said:
No, but there's a do too Little too late option which I think is the course we're on and will stay on until we're in deep shit.
I can't see us getting out of this.
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Dare I say a few of the attitudes expressed on here match up with what ADM and ISB opened the thread with in their concerns.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #112
From 2018, but an example of how the Sahara might be used

Climate model shows large-scale wind and solar farms in the Sahara increase rain and vegetation (science.org)
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #113
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
After two days of unbearable heat does anyone now have more sympathy with those who block motorways etc in the name of addressing climate change ?
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I have no objections to their blocking roads providing it is between the hours of midnight and one minute past. Other than that, they need to embrace their eco lifestyle first. Then, perhaps I will have sympathy for this method of demonstration.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #114
Grendel said:
Better transport and not driving cars aren’t the same thing

Some dimwit was on the news the other day saying scrap the car and make bikes the priority
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I had a terrible vision of Old Aggie cycling up the street.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #115
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Dare I say a few of the attitudes expressed on here match up with what ADM and ISB opened the thread with in their concerns.
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Its human nature unfortunately.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #116
Deleted member 5849 said:
I guess one argument is if we get a lead on technology, we're in a position to rake it in as and when those countries do decide to do something about it.
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Except of course they won’t do anything about it
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #117
Grendel said:
Except of course they won’t do anything about it
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They will if there’s an economical argument for it which there already is. Renewables are getting cheaper and cheaper whereas fossil fuels are getting more and more expensive.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #118
Marty said:
Surely the only long term solution is a vast reduction in the global population? Everything else is just papering over the cracks.
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Take it easy Thanos
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #119
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Dare I say a few of the attitudes expressed on here match up with what ADM and ISB opened the thread with in their concerns.
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There have been some very good points raised. I just think that there are too many people around the world just not interested enough in what will, inevitably, kill us all, whether that is in 50 or 100 years from now. We've already crossed 1°c pre industrial figure and a couple of days ago the BBC showed a graphic of the world at 2° and at 4° increase. It made me laugh. What they didn't attempt to do was tell us how many people would actually survive at the latter nor the disastrous scenario at even 2°c. It's as if they've already accepted those figures as inevitable but couldn't bring themselves to actually put that into a survival context.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #120
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
There have been some very good points raised. I just think that there are too many people around the world just not interested enough in what will, inevitably, kill us all, whether that is in 50 or 100 years from now. We've already crossed 1°c pre industrial figure and a couple of days ago the BBC showed a graphic of the world at 2° and at 4° increase. It made me laugh. What they didn't attempt to do was tell us how many people would actually survive at the latter nor the disastrous scenario at even 2°c. It's as if they've already accepted those figures as inevitable but couldn't bring themselves to actually put that into a survival context.
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Another thing not mentioned much-where will the many millions of people in the Middle East go when that region becomes uninhabitable?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #121
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Another thing not mentioned much-where will the many millions of people in the Middle East go when that region becomes uninhabitable?
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Well their economies will collapse without oil anyway so they’ll be like the third world feeding off scraps and farming the land. Not with animals of course as they’ll all be dead as the planet goes vegan
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #122
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Another thing not mentioned much-where will the many millions of people in the Middle East go when that region becomes uninhabitable?
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That's Farage's next grift sorted
 
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Marty

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #123
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Another thing not mentioned much-where will the many millions of people in the Middle East go when that region becomes uninhabitable?
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Coming over here on dinghy's, raising our house prices, bloody foreigners!
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #124
Could ADM not just stand his fat arse in front of the sun?
 

JAM See

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #125
Grendel said:
Did they pick you up from your house?
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No.

Which bit of the post did you not understand?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #126
Grendel said:
Well their economies will collapse without oil anyway so they’ll be like the third world feeding off scraps and farming the land. Not with animals of course as they’ll all be dead as the planet goes vegan
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In all seriousness where do they go?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #127
JAM See said:
No.

Which bit of the post did you not understand?
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I understand it - how did everyone get to the pick up point? What happens when you are at work and there’s an emergency did you get a taxi back to your house?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #128
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In all seriousness where do they go?
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Well I was being serious the planets population will fall dramatically
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #129
David O'Day said:
Could ADM not just stand his fat arse in front of the sun?
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The IRA recruitment officer has arrived. Is it too hot on the ladies footy thread?
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #130
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Another thing not mentioned much-where will the many millions of people in the Middle East go when that region becomes uninhabitable?
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Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal next .
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #131
Marty said:
Coming over here on dinghy's, raising our house prices, bloody foreigners!
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They'll be able to paddle their way to Peterborough on Sea.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #132
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
The IRA recruitment officer has arrived. Is it too hot on the ladies footy thread?
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Ha ha yes made more posts on that thread than any ccfc ones - weirdo
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #133
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
The IRA recruitment officer has arrived. Is it too hot on the ladies footy thread?
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No, i was just saying you are so fat you can stand in front of the sun.

We have established you are really stupid and can't read but surely even you can understand that?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #134
David O'Day said:
No, i was just saying you are so fat you can stand in front of the sun.

We have established you are really stupid and can't read but surely even you can understand that?
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So ADMs backside is 864,000 miles across? That’s almost as many posts you’ve made about womens football
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #135
What is the life span of an electric car before they need big money spent on them?
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #136
Nick said:
What is the life span of an electric car before they need big money spent on them?
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And ,if you don't mind, Nick, is it true that once the battery dies the car is more or less scrap material. I've been told replacing the battery is so expensive it's not worth it.
 

Nick

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #137
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
And ,if you don't mind, Nick, is it true that once the battery dies the car is more or less scrap material. I've been told replacing the battery is so expensive it's not worth it.
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Tesla batteries look to be about 10-13k (dollars). It looks like the warranty is 8 years.

So if it gets to 10 years old it could potentially be getting scrapped.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #138
How many years before owning an electric car is feasible?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #139
Nick said:
It isn't really as it's hardly used but just causes more issues.
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How do you know it's hardly used?

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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 20, 2022
  • #140
fernandopartridge said:
How do you know it's hardly used?

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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Because I drive all the way down roads with them on multiple times a day and see how it's caused more traffic with hardly any people actually cycling on them.
 
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