I'd love to travel by bike more, but I don't have a death wish so I'm not doing that.It helps though doesn't it. If I could go half the week by public transport, that'd be a start. Ditto about bikes, if there were some non lethal way to cycle it, it'd be cheaper and help my fitness levels too. A bit better planning would set us off in the right direction.
When I started work in a car factory in 1983, works buses were a given.Why would they have to buy them? Midland Meat Packers used to bus people all around Rugby not that many years ago, they used a local coach firm to do it, no one is suggesting that they have to go nuclear and buy a coach and employ a driver.
A relative of mine does a round trip of 35 miles each day by bike to work and back. Nutter is one word I'd use!I'd love to travel by bike more, but I don't have a death wish so I'm not doing that.
There’s no doubt we have to but the implications have to be considered
How many people would have no income if we had no car production?
There won’t be any combustion engine cars by 2050
Surely the only long term solution is a vast reduction in the global population? Everything else is just papering over the cracks.
Apart from the methane etc. and the energy used in other areas of the production process like butchery, we could change land use from grazing or growing animal crops to other plants which could have a greater ability to store carbon. Of course some of that land would need to be used to make alternative crops to replace the meat eaten but would still be better.I’m also not sure what being vegetarian will achieve
Apart from the methane etc. and the energy used in other areas of the production process like butchery, we could change land use from grazing or growing animal crops to other plants which could have a greater ability to store carbon. Of course some of that land would need to be used to make alternative crops to replace the meat eaten but would still be better.
Well the point at which there are just too many people on the planet will come but one would hope not in this century
When I started work in a car factory in 1983, works buses were a given.
Yes, it put about twenty minutes on your day, but it also saved money as we, a young couple with children could manage with one car.
I don't think anyone's disagreeing with that. It's that the systems and services need to be put in place or improved that enable the change. That's not happening. Even after a huge pandemic the desire was to just 'get back to normal', even for things which didn't need to go back to the way they were before.Oh there are routes, it's just that they are all on different ones.
Why am I going to spend 3 hours extra per day travelling?
And all of the new "bike lane" shite that has been put in around Cov just causes even more issues and traffic because of how much narrower the roads are. So if you are behind a bus, everybody is behind a bus until it gets to where it's going.
There's difficult and unviable.Well with that attitude why bother doing anything difficult? Fossil fuels will run out at some point this century-what do we do then if we haven't found an alternative?
Surely we're at that point already? if the planet can't sustain the level at what we're consuming and producing emissions then we've hit that point.
There's difficult and unviable.
I do plenty of difficult things as it is to get by, I don't need to be sat on public transport every day if I don't need to.
I'd happily drive a car that's better for the environment and cheaper for me to run, however they cost a lot of money so I can't justify it.
It's nowhere near as simple as sell your car and work from home.
So whos going to pay? Everybody gets an electric car and new boiler, pay rise as well for good measure.Which is why, as I've repeatedly said, it needs to be made easier for you to make those switches. Likewise I'm well aware a gas boiler is environmentally terrible but a heat pump is far too expensive and might still be even with the grant they're bringing in for them.
I accept what I've put is radical for individuals and for governments but the situation is so precarious we haven't got much time for being incremental.
So whos going to pay? Everybody gets an electric car and new boiler, pay rise as well for good measure.
In a few years a new car will be viable for me, it isn't going to just turn up on my drive.
We teach how global warming and climate change work to teenagers and they get it easily enough.
Top 3 things an individual could do
Stop driving
Go veggie
Install a heat pump in place of a gas boiler
Top 3 things the government could do
Go for a nuclear/renewable energy mix
Commit with other nations to using solar beacons in the Sahara to meet the energy demands of two continents
Incentivise people to trade in their petrol or diesel cars for electric
Well if we could all use public transport more conveniently, we'd be saving a fair whack on fuel, tax, repairs etc to go towards that new car...So whos going to pay? Everybody gets an electric car and new boiler, pay rise as well for good measure.
In a few years a new car will be viable for me, it isn't going to just turn up on my drive.
Ultimately, everyone will pay.So whos going to pay? Everybody gets an electric car and new boiler, pay rise as well for good measure.
In a few years a new car will be viable for me, it isn't going to just turn up on my drive.
Synthetic fuels ?How is anyone going to drive anywhere if we're still relying on petrol and diesel by the time they run out?
So whos going to pay? Everybody gets an electric car and new boiler, pay rise as well for good measure.
In a few years a new car will be viable for me, it isn't going to just turn up on my drive.
| # | Country | CO2 Emissions per capita (tons) |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | China | 7.38 |
| 2 | United States | 15.52 |
| 3 | India | 1.91 |
| 4 | Russia | 11.44 |
But how many more people would be employed manufacturing the alternative methods of transport? Same as those that work in oil/gas etc - how many people would be employed in solar/wind/hydroelectric instead?There’s no doubt we have to but the implications have to be considered
How many people would have no income if we had no car production?
The chuckle brothers had it right with their pedal car.
There will be houses burning every single day, sadly.Ultimately, everyone will pay.
See those houses burning yesterday? Few years time that could be any of our homes.
But how many more people would be employed manufacturing the alternative methods of transport? Same as those that work in oil/gas etc - how many people would be employed in solar/wind/hydroelectric instead?
I'd be all up for getting an electric car and I'm sure many would, its just my perception I haven't actually looked but aren't they much more expensive? Also, although I am starting to see the odd charging point, they're extremely rare. Infrastructure needs to change quicker to get people on board quicker. I'm sure it's easy to understand but a lot of these teenagers may not work yet or have to travel for work in a car etc so I'd argue it's an easier transition for them while in that position. Not disagreeing with anything you say btw, just purely my initial thoughts.We teach how global warming and climate change work to teenagers and they get it easily enough.
Top 3 things an individual could do
Stop driving
Go veggie
Install a heat pump in place of a gas boiler
Top 3 things the government could do
Go for a nuclear/renewable energy mix
Commit with other nations to using solar beacons in the Sahara to meet the energy demands of two continents
Incentivise people to trade in their petrol or diesel cars for electric
I guess one argument is if we get a lead on technology, we're in a position to rake it in as and when those countries do decide to do something about it.CO2 Emissions per Capita
# Country CO2 Emissions per capita (tons) 1 China 7.38 2 United States 15.52 3 India 1.91 4 Russia 11.44
There's the problem.
We do more than most and produce 1% of the worlds emissions. Whatever we do as a country wont matter a jot if the above don't get their acts together.
There will be houses burning every single day, sadly.
That sort of nonsense doesn't wash really
Ultimately yes, but we've still got far too many people in the world beholden to ancient ideas and religion. "Go forth and multiply"Surely the only long term solution is a vast reduction in the global population? Everything else is just papering over the cracks.
I'd be all up for getting an electric car and I'm sure many would, its just my perception I haven't actually looked but aren't they much more expensive? Also, although I am starting to see the odd charging point, they're extremely rare. Infrastructure needs to change quicker to get people on board quicker. I'm sure it's easy to understand but a lot of these teenagers may not work yet or have to travel for work in a car etc so I'd argue it's an easier transition for them while in that position. Not disagreeing with anything you say btw, just purely my initial thoughts.
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Surely the only long term solution is a vast reduction in the global population? Everything else is just papering over the cracks.
Its too late now, we're doomed!
Thanos?Surely the only long term solution is a vast reduction in the global population? Everything else is just papering over the cracks.
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