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City's MPs back campaign to #bringCityhome (1 Viewer)

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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #1
All three Coventry MPs call for the club's return:

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...try-mps-back-telegraphs-bringcityhome-7484595
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #2
Maybe they could put some pressure on ACL to listen to Sisu's offer.
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #3
Maybe they could encourage Sisu to move away from the litigation route.
 

Rob S

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #4
Isn't the only person who doesn't want the Sky Blues back home that Villa fan in Holbrooks?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #5
Rob S said:
Isn't the only person who doesn't want the Sky Blues back home that Villa fan in Holbrooks?
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Seems ACL don't.
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #6
We all want ccfc home. Everyone should forget the owners and get city home and go back to Ricoh.

What has happened has happened it's time to move on not look back in anger.

Sisu or no sisu we support ccfc.

It is a ludicrous situation and it would make a good joke if it wasn't so serious.
 

The Penguin

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #7
Maybe they could encourage both sides to stop being dicks?
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #8
Will MPs from Nuneaton, Rugby & other areas surrounding Coventry also throw their weight behind the campaign?
 
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diggerdaley

New Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #9
Why do some people keep blaming ACL ,they are trying to run a business for the City of Coventry not for some offshore hedge fund.
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #10
Kingokings204 said:
We all want ccfc home. Everyone should forget the owners and get city home and go back to Ricoh.

What has happened has happened it's time to move on not look back in anger.

Sisu or no sisu we support ccfc.

It is a ludicrous situation and it would make a good joke if it wasn't so serious.
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I agree, it's no longer about the owners, it's about getting the Club home now.

If we get back to the Ricoh, with the signings we have made and the calibre of players we are looking at, there could be a real buzz.


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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #11
Jack Griffin said:
Will MPs from Nuneaton, Rugby & other areas surrounding Coventry also throw their weight behind the campaign?
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Might also be worth asking them if they would oppose any new stadium being built in their constituency.
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #12
RoboCCFC90 said:
I agree, it's no longer about the owners, it's about getting the Club home now.

If we get back to the Ricoh, with the signings we have made and the calibre of players we are looking at, there could be a real buzz.


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Agree with you there with some on pitch optimism, but it is about the owners unfortunately. The buck stops with them in regard to the direction of travel for the club. Still don't understand why the FL aren't treating our situation with any urgency - it's as if this situation is business as usual for them.
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #13
diggerdaley said:
Why do some people keep blaming ACL ,they are trying to run a business for the City of Coventry not for some offshore hedge fund.
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Prob because in a way, the original deal suited ACL to the core in terms of keeping revenues, and should never been signed in the first place, they was basically robbing the club even before SISU signed documents to take control of the Football Club.

If ACL sold the rights to Compass like some seem to think, this should of never happened either.

All football clubs no matter who need some sort of right to match day revenues.
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #14
RoboCCFC90 said:
I agree, it's no longer about the owners, it's about getting the Club home now.

If we get back to the Ricoh, with the signings we have made and the calibre of players we are looking at, there could be a real buzz.


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It could really be the start of something and needs to happen before the season starts not mid season.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #15
Kingokings204 said:
It could really be the start of something and needs to happen before the season starts not mid season.
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I agree.

A big step was yesterday's statement if CCFC really have a proposal then ACL need to listen, now! Not in a few weeks time, the owed £590,000 is an Escrow Account, the JR has nothing to do with a new deal being agreed to bring the Club home, so why not get it done.

Simon - A statement from ACL with respect to the last two CCFC statements is well over due IMO!


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olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #16
RoboCCFC90 said:
the JR has nothing to do with a new deal being agreed to bring the Club home, so why not get it done.
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Robo, can you just explain that bit for me please? Let's just say SISU win an appeal, would that have no bearing on ACL in the future?
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #17
RoboCCFC90 said:
I agree.

A big step was yesterday's statement if CCFC really have a proposal then ACL need to listen, now! Not in a few weeks time, the owed £590,000 is an Escrow Account, the JR has nothing to do with a new deal being agreed to bring the Club home, so why not get it done.

Simon - A statement from ACL with respect to the last two CCFC statements is well over due IMO!


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ACL maintain they need the two requirements first. I do agree with them tbh as they need the money they are owed and you don't do a deal with someone who is taking you to court. You can't blame ACL for this.

However with that said I agree with Robo. Why can't they see the 590k is in an escrow account which isn't ideal sure but it's been paid to an extent and as for the appeal I am pretty sure sisu would drop the appeal based on any deal back. They aren't that stupid I hope.

The above means that the two should talk now and what do ACL have to lose. Worst case is they say piss off.
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #18
olderskyblue said:
Robo, can you just explain that bit for me please? Let's just say SISU win an appeal, would that have no bearing on ACL in the future?
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The JR was based on establishing whether ACL tried to wrest control of the Club from Sisu, that has nothing to do with being able to agree a deal to get the Club back to the Ricoh Arena. It's putting differences aside and doing the best for both businesses.


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diggerdaley

New Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #19
How can ACL be confident sisu will pay the rent what ever it is,I would'nt trust the bastards,sisu should be made to pay upfront for the season.
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #20
Kingokings204 said:
ACL maintain they need the two requirements first. I do agree with them tbh as they need the money they are owed and you don't do a deal with someone who is taking you to court. You can't blame ACL for this.

However with that said I agree with Robo. Why can't they see the 590k is in an escrow account which isn't ideal sure but it's been paid to an extent and as for the appeal I am pretty sure sisu would drop the appeal based on any deal back. They aren't that stupid I hope.

The above means that the two should talk now and what do ACL have to lose. Worst case is they say piss off.
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The deadline IMO is 12th August.. The two games upcoming after that, Cardiff and Sheffield United would be huge games at the Ricoh attendance wise, why not try and get something done before then?

The two parties should talk now, the £590,000 has been placed into an escrow account, the Club is willing to pay that full amount, forget the JR - it's totally separate from this situation anyhow! - and get the Club back to the Ricoh!


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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #21
Kingokings204 said:
ACL maintain they need the two requirements first. I do agree with them tbh as they need the money they are owed and you don't do a deal with someone who is taking you to court. You can't blame ACL for this.

However with that said I agree with Robo. Why can't they see the 590k is in an escrow account which isn't ideal sure but it's been paid to an extent and as for the appeal I am pretty sure sisu would drop the appeal based on any deal back. They aren't that stupid I hope.

The above means that the two should talk now and what do ACL have to lose. Worst case is they say piss off.
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Do you not also accept that SISU can't throw all their eggs in one basket in the same way? Particularly in the context of previous attempts at negotiation where ACL played hard ball until it was too late.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #22
RoboCCFC90 said:
The deadline IMO is 12th August.. The two games upcoming after that, Cardiff and Sheffield United would be huge games at the Ricoh attendance wise, why not try and get something done before then?

The two parties should talk now, the £590,000 has been placed into an escrow account, the Club is willing to pay that full amount, forget the JR - it's totally separate from this situation anyhow! - and get the Club back to the Ricoh!


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Really? There was 12k there last time we played Sheff Utd in August 2012. First home game in League 1.
 
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Monners

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  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #23
RoboCCFC90 said:
The deadline IMO is 12th August.. The two games upcoming after that, Cardiff and Sheffield United would be huge games at the Ricoh attendance wise, why not try and get something done before then?

The two parties should talk now, the £590,000 has been placed into an escrow account, the Club is willing to pay that full amount, forget the JR - it's totally separate from this situation anyhow! - and get the Club back to the Ricoh!


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Sisu are disputing the amount they have to pay. They have placed "substantial" funds in the account. The FL will decide how much needs to be paid. Also they have given no indication whatsoever about dropping legal action. Hence why ACL have said wha tthey have. We may not like it, but that is the reality at the mo.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #24
RoboCCFC90 said:
The deadline IMO is 12th August.. The two games upcoming after that, Cardiff and Sheffield United would be huge games at the Ricoh attendance wise, why not try and get something done before then?

The two parties should talk now, the £590,000 has been placed into an escrow account, the Club is willing to pay that full amount, forget the JR - it's totally separate from this situation anyhow! - and get the Club back to the Ricoh!


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Agree with the money side Robo but not the legal side. You cant do a deal with a business who are taking you through the courts it just doesn't happen. If I took you to court for fraud and then I wanted a deal to be done with you would you talk to me?

I assume as I say that sisu are smart business people and would drop the legal as part of a deal. I remain convinced sisu want to come back and not the theories on here although I understand people thinking them. Just no reason to put out statements like they have with no blame if they didn't want to come back.

There is a deal ready to be viewed and "ready to go" so as I say ACL just need to hear it and worst case they say do one. Nothing to lose but everything to gain. Let alone naming right to the ricoh and cov community on behalf of the council.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #25
fernandopartridge said:
Really? There was 12k there last time we played Sheff Utd in August 2012. First home game in League 1.
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Sheffield United usually take a good following and in a season which they will probably be favourites they will probably take a good following to most grounds this season.


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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #26
fernandopartridge said:
Really? There was 12k there last time we played Sheff Utd in August 2012. First home game in League 1.
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Wasn't this a midweek game with andy thorn as manager? 12k was high.
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #27
fernandopartridge said:
Do you not also accept that SISU can't throw all their eggs in one basket in the same way? Particularly in the context of previous attempts at negotiation where ACL played hard ball until it was too late.
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That works both ways though does it not? Also, didn't Ms Seppala veot the deal which TF shook on? I would call that hard ball.
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #28
Monners said:
Sisu are disputing the amount they have to pay. They have placed "substantial" funds in the account. The FL will decide how much needs to be paid. Also they have given no indication whatsoever about dropping legal action. Hence why ACL have said wha tthey have. We may not like it, but that is the reality at the mo.
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Again the parties involved have caused confusion. The football league have been quoted as saying the "full amount" and sisu have said "substantial" They really don't help us fans do they.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #29
Kingokings204 said:
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Wasn't this a midweek game with andy thorn as manager? 12k was high.
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Yes and yes. Though the NOPM affect would have a bearing on a Saturday.
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #30
Monners said:
Sisu are disputing the amount they have to pay. They have placed "substantial" funds in the account. The FL will decide how much needs to be paid. Also they have given no indication whatsoever about dropping legal action. Hence why ACL have said wha tthey have. We may not like it, but that is the reality at the mo.
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The whole £590,000 has been placed into that account, of course the Club wants clarification with respect to how much they need to pay, now that the £300,000 guarantor payment had been mentioned?


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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #31
Monners said:
That works both ways though does it not? Also, didn't Ms Seppala veot the deal which TF shook on? I would call that hard ball.
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Why not negotiate a deal that makes SISU recognise that dropping the JR is the best thing to do? Why can't that be done? The deal can be on the table
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #32
Kingokings204 said:
Again the parties involved have caused confusion. The football league have been quoted as saying the "full amount" and sisu have said "substantial" They really don't help us fans do they.
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They certainly don't help mate. Stuck in the middle of all this is proving to be very disheartening.
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #33
fernandopartridge said:
Why not negotiate a deal that makes SISU recognise that dropping the JR is the best thing to do? Why can't that be done? The deal can be on the table
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Which is why dropping the JR has to happen in the first instance surely. If Sisu are genuine about any return to the Ricoh, then they have to give something. How can professional and thorough negotiation take place until the spectre of ongoing litigation is removed - it simply can't. ACL would have to do a deal then.
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #34
fernandopartridge said:
Yes and yes. Though the NOPM affect would have a bearing on a Saturday.
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Some people will never come back with sisu in charge and whilst I do not agree with this myself and I would go back, I completely understand their view.

So yes it would have an effect on attendance.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jul 23, 2014
  • #35
Monners said:
They certainly don't help mate. Stuck in the middle of all this is proving to be very disheartening.
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As mentioned on another thread why the FL cant come out today and take 10 minutes to authorise a decision on the 590k is beyond many of us.

Many of us don't care on the amount but just want clarification and closure. Not too hard to ask is it.
 
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