Was it ever in doubt? Wasps will want to make as much money out of us as possible, so they would hardly kick us out.
I don't think it's a step in the right direction, as it makes leaving at the end of the 4 years and building a new ground far more likely,
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Was it ever in doubt? Wasps will want to make as much money out of us as possible, so they would hardly kick us out.
I don't think it's a step in the right direction, as it makes leaving at the end of the 4 years and building a new ground far more likely,
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all the hysteria on here assumed otherwise?
also at the minute i would take a new ground because the ricoh Saturday was depressing again and a new ground aslong as in the coventry boundaries would be brilliant. a nice tiday 20k ground would be idea. generate a better atmosphere etc..
talksport breaking news said city would still play at ricoh and that's confirmed
If we continue to slump on the field I don't see how a 5,000 crowd in a 20,000 seater stadium would be any better than 7,000 in a 32,000 seater stadium.
People criticise the Ricoh, but what would Old Trafford be like with only 18,500 fans in?
We may have to play on Sundays.
surely thats a good thing?
yes i feel sorry for wasps fans but ccfc is my priority so that's a step in the right direction
all the hysteria on here assumed otherwise?
also at the minute i would take a new ground because the ricoh Saturday was depressing again and a new ground aslong as in the coventry boundaries would be brilliant. a nice tiday 20k ground would be idea. generate a better atmosphere etc..
talksport breaking news said city would still play at ricoh and that's confirmed
No, my hysteria about this is:
a) it's wrong to permanently move a club 100 miles from it fan base
b) wasps will eventually want to rebrand the stadium including seats, etc
C) the stadium was build for us, we will feel even more like tenants than we are now.
D) sisu won't be here forever but we will very likely never get to own/leasehold the Ricoh . Why would Wasps want want to sell it, when it will be funding them? This will have a major medium to long impact on us.
E) it will negatively impact on both the club and cov RFC. 2 Coventry community based sports teams that have been in existence for 150 years
F) the hypocrisy of trying to sue Northampton, stating moving cov is wrong then moving in someone else.
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No, my hysteria about this is:
a) it's wrong to permanently move a club 100 miles from it fan base
b) wasps will eventually want to rebrand the stadium including seats, etc
C) the stadium was build for us, we will feel even more like tenants than we are now.
D) sisu won't be here forever but we will very likely never get to own/leasehold the Ricoh . Why would Wasps want want to sell it, when it will be funding them? This will have a major medium to long impact on us.
E) it will negatively impact on both the club and cov RFC. 2 Coventry community based sports teams that have been in existence for 150 years
F) the hypocrisy of trying to sue Northampton, stating moving cov is wrong then moving in someone else.
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No, my hysteria about this is:
a) it's wrong to permanently move a club 100 miles from it fan base - Agree.
b) wasps will eventually want to rebrand the stadium including seats, etc - Sorry, but speculation. Can't see why both brands couldn't be in place.
C) the stadium was build for us, we will feel even more like tenants than we are now. - Agree.
D) sisu won't be here forever but we will very likely never get to own/leasehold the Ricoh . Why would Wasps want want to sell it, when it will be funding them? This will have a major medium to long impact on us.- Maybe. Not sure on this one.
E) it will negatively impact on both the club and cov RFC. 2 Coventry community based sports teams that have been in existence for 150 years - We simply do not know this to be the case. You might be right, but am guessing we will only know tomorrow what the impact will be. I keep coming back the duty of CCC to act for the benefit of the people of this city.
F) the hypocrisy of trying to sue Northampton, stating moving cov is wrong then moving in someone else. - Agree.
G) sisu keep banging on about the new stadium, we all think it's bollocks, but the wasps take over makes this far more likely. - If they were serious why haven't we even identified any land yet,despite the numerous times we have been told that we have identified the land and are only 3 weeks/a couple of months from confirmation?
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i see you've missed one major factor. SISU are the ones who have constantly talked about only using ricoh again as stop gap until this 'new' stadium is built. SISU are the ones who initiated this indirectly. CCC/ACL covering there backs which most companies would do.
most ccfc fans couldn't care less about cov rugby nor wasps rugby. aslong as city are playing in cov that's enough for me. sisu have ruined this club along with richardson back the 1990's. CCC are not to blame for our demise but yet many posters including you do like to blame them. if it wasnt for the council the ricoh wouldn't be here in the first place.
So the whole franchise / moving stuff is ok as they were covering their backs? Does that mean it would be ok to move us if SISU were just covering their backs?
Of course some of it is speculation. They are my thoughts, worries and opinions on this.
A lot of it cannot be proved until it happens, by then thought it will be too late. Will wasps want to play (medium to long term) in a stadium with sky blue seats and ccfc, sky blues, etc patterns in them?
Also re: cov rugby, it's not about losing the current hardcore support, it's about the ability to attract new fans, young rugby fans, students, etc will v likely opt to watch wasps over cov.
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Of course some of it is speculation. They are my thoughts, worries and opinions on this.
A lot of it cannot be proved until it happens, by then thought it will be too late. Will wasps want to play (medium to long term) in a stadium with sky blue seats and ccfc, sky blues, etc patterns in them?
Also re: cov rugby, it's not about losing the current hardcore support, it's about the ability to attract new fans, young rugby fans, students, etc will v likely opt to watch wasps over cov.
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one question.. do you personally care about cov rugby before the wasps takeover of the ricoh? seems to me many fans are taking the moral high ground to prove a point but before couldn't care less.
one question.. do you personally care about cov rugby before the wasps takeover of the ricoh? seems to me many fans are taking the moral high ground to prove a point but before couldn't care less.
Do people personally care about the club back at the Ricoh? 20k signatures, 60k likes on FB but only 7.8k turning up last Saturday suggests otherwise.
one question.. do you personally care about cov rugby before the wasps takeover of the ricoh? seems to me many fans are taking the moral high ground to prove a point but before couldn't care less.
if you owned a sporting venue and your current tenants were saying come 2017 were leaving would you not be looking for new tenants? Simple question
as for sisu covering there backs, do you really think they moved us to cover there backs? of course not, they moved us to distress ACL/Council which worked because they (acl/ccc) then looked for alternative backers etc... true or false?
one question.. do you personally care about cov rugby before the wasps takeover of the ricoh? seems to me many fans are taking the moral high ground to prove a point but before couldn't care less.
I'm not a rugby fan but I do keep my eye/ear out for their results as I do the local football teams. I like to hear them do well, when driving home from the Ricoh listening to cwr.
I didn't go to MK Dons because I thought I was hypocritical given what we were going through last year.
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Surely they wanted to distress ACL to cover their own backs / their own interests.
If I owned a sporting venue I wouldn't give it loads about how it was wrong to move a tenant away, try to sue the other club for the tenant moving, play on the fans emotions about the club being away and how much I wanted it back to then just move a team up. If it was Cov RFC it would have been entirely different wouldn't it?
Don't give it the emotional crap and it wouldn't come back to bite you. Of course it is just business, so just treat it like business from the off rather than bullshitting about the fans and loving the club etc.
After all, SISU moving us was just business to them, the same as it is just business to ACL moving another team up.
one question.. do you personally care about cov rugby before the wasps takeover of the ricoh? seems to me many fans are taking the moral high ground to prove a point but before couldn't care less.
nick you seriously believe this wasps takeover is the councils fault?
No one needed to show that they were worried about the future of Cov RFC before, because it wasn't under threat.
What's worse in my book is someone pretending to care about them, or to claim to stand against franchising in general, when actually they're not really fussed as long as it doesn't affect their own narrow self-interest (e.g. the one team that they support).
I think all parties are to blame, but I think the council are being massive hypocrites. I think moving teams is wrong full stop, whether it is SISU doing it, Wasps or anybody else. It isn't only wrong when SISU do it but only business when other people do it.
Like I say, it would be different if it was Cov Rugby Club moving in wouldn't it?
are you sure? http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-rugby-club-goes-administration-3071266
narrow self interest? - id say 113 million investment is not narrow
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They may put money into further Ricoh developments in and around the ground.
I didn't go to MK Dons because I thought I was hypocritical given what we were going through last year.
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No one needed to show that they were worried about the future of Cov RFC before, because it wasn't under threat.
What's worse in my book is someone pretending to care about them, or to claim to stand against franchising in general, when actually they're not really fussed as long as it doesn't affect their own narrow self-interest (e.g. the one team that they support).
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