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  • Thread starter Maupet
  • Start date Aug 15, 2012
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Maupet

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  • Aug 15, 2012
  • #1
Where has the chinaman gone. Or was he never here
 
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RichieGunns

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  • Aug 15, 2012
  • #2
Probably more Hoffman rubbish...the guy seems to like the attention...this could probably be what its always been about...a little publicity.

I do wish (and pray) that it isn't and that he really is drumming up new owners...but i guess only time will tell!
 
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DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe

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  • Aug 15, 2012
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I think it is easy to accuse Hoffman of revelling in the attention if you don't know him. He watches us play games with his Dad and young son. He goes with his friends and contacts. It is apparent that he is there because you have seen him in the paper. At one away game, he was accused of lording it on the front row. He arrived just before kick off and it was unallocated seating, so went on the empty row with his Dad and son. The crux of the issue is that fans are frustrated that a deal didn't go through. Some people didn't like particular aspects of how it played out in the press. Does it mean he did it to make Coventry fans more aware of him? Of course not... he has made enough money and prestige through business to not even consider this aspect. He did it because he is a Coventry fan - one who can talk with a decent amount of football intellect about the team he has supported since childhood - and he hoped he might be able to make a difference. It didn't happen and it looks unlikely, once again. Doesn't mean false accusations should be levelled at him.
 
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Maupet

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  • Aug 15, 2012
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DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe said:
I think it is easy to accuse Hoffman of revelling in the attention if you don't know him. He watches us play games with his Dad and young son. He goes with his friends and contacts. It is apparent that he is there because you have seen him in the paper. At one away game, he was accused of lording it on the front row. He arrived just before kick off and it was unallocated seating, so went on the empty row with his Dad and son. The crux of the issue is that fans are frustrated that a deal didn't go through. Some people didn't like particular aspects of how it played out in the press. Does it mean he did it to make Coventry fans more aware of him? Of course not... he has made enough money and prestige through business to not even consider this aspect. He did it because he is a Coventry fan - one who can talk with a decent amount of football intellect about the team he has supported since childhood - and he hoped he might be able to make a difference. It didn't happen and it looks unlikely, once again. Doesn't mean false accusations should be levelled at him.
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i have no griped with hoffman other than him being a banker. But is the chinaman deal dead
 

ashbyjan

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  • Aug 15, 2012
  • #5
Bottom line Hoff tried to get something done because he cares about this club as much as any of us, ultimately it has so far resulted in nothing but a few non-Hoff fabricated false dawns but that doesn't belittle the man or his efforts. Hopefully he may come up with something in the future or maybe will work with the supporters to get ownership of the club away from SISU but we should be grateful that at least he has tried to make something happen and because he cares not because he is a self publicist.
 
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Maupet

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  • Aug 15, 2012
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ashbyjan said:
Bottom line Hoff tried to get something done because he cares about this club as much as any of us, ultimately it has so far resulted in nothing but a few non-Hoff fabricated false dawns but that doesn't belittle the man or his efforts. Hopefully he may come up with something in the future or maybe will work with the supporters to get ownership of the club away from SISU but we should be grateful that at least he has tried to make something happen and because he cares not because he is a self publicist.
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i agree. Hope he can do it
 
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RichieGunns

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  • Aug 15, 2012
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DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe said:
I think it is easy to accuse Hoffman of revelling in the attention if you don't know him. He watches us play games with his Dad and young son. He goes with his friends and contacts. It is apparent that he is there because you have seen him in the paper. At one away game, he was accused of lording it on the front row. He arrived just before kick off and it was unallocated seating, so went on the empty row with his Dad and son. The crux of the issue is that fans are frustrated that a deal didn't go through. Some people didn't like particular aspects of how it played out in the press. Does it mean he did it to make Coventry fans more aware of him? Of course not... he has made enough money and prestige through business to not even consider this aspect. He did it because he is a Coventry fan - one who can talk with a decent amount of football intellect about the team he has supported since childhood - and he hoped he might be able to make a difference. It didn't happen and it looks unlikely, once again. Doesn't mean false accusations should be levelled at him.
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Thats fair enough but sometimes people don't always have the facts to hand.

I called it purely on how i see it but im not doubting his sincerity and i apologise for causing offence.

But i did say that i hoped it wasn't about the publicity so i wasn't entirly having a go, just making a statement (that turned out to be false)

I do dearly hope he can get buyers for our club. Until SISU go we will still be stuck in this uncomfortable position and i for one hope they leave soon so we can start building for hte future again with proper backers/owners!
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Aug 15, 2012
  • #8
I don't doubt his intentions were good but I don't believe he ever had anyone seriously interested. This is why I got annoyed when Hoffman was saying a deal is ready to be done but SISU won't talk to us or that his men were waiting in the wings ready to bid

I think he kept getting our hopes up too much when he didn't have anything credible to back him up
 
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Sky

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  • Aug 15, 2012
  • #9
Anyone can dress it up how they want, bottom line is hoffman wants the club for nothing SISU want money that's where all specualtion ends
 

Moff

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  • Aug 15, 2012
  • #10
DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe said:
I think it is easy to accuse Hoffman of revelling in the attention if you don't know him. He watches us play games with his Dad and young son. He goes with his friends and contacts. It is apparent that he is there because you have seen him in the paper. At one away game, he was accused of lording it on the front row. He arrived just before kick off and it was unallocated seating, so went on the empty row with his Dad and son. The crux of the issue is that fans are frustrated that a deal didn't go through. Some people didn't like particular aspects of how it played out in the press. Does it mean he did it to make Coventry fans more aware of him? Of course not... he has made enough money and prestige through business to not even consider this aspect. He did it because he is a Coventry fan - one who can talk with a decent amount of football intellect about the team he has supported since childhood - and he hoped he might be able to make a difference. It didn't happen and it looks unlikely, once again. Doesn't mean false accusations should be levelled at him.
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I apprecaite we havent agreed on all subjects in the past, but that is an excellent post that really hits the nail on the head.
 
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thechase

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  • Aug 15, 2012
  • #11
Despite what many on here wish to beleive i am of the opinion its all for self publicity and with zero substance. He wanted fans to turn against the clubs owners by trying to bully SISU into giving the club up for nothing. Amazingly now SISU are being slagged off by fans for trying to bully the players over the bonuses row. Amazing hypocrisy.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 15, 2012
  • #12
DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe said:
I think it is easy to accuse Hoffman of revelling in the attention if you don't know him. He watches us play games with his Dad and young son. He goes with his friends and contacts. It is apparent that he is there because you have seen him in the paper. At one away game, he was accused of lording it on the front row. He arrived just before kick off and it was unallocated seating, so went on the empty row with his Dad and son. The crux of the issue is that fans are frustrated that a deal didn't go through. Some people didn't like particular aspects of how it played out in the press. Does it mean he did it to make Coventry fans more aware of him? Of course not... he has made enough money and prestige through business to not even consider this aspect. He did it because he is a Coventry fan - one who can talk with a decent amount of football intellect about the team he has supported since childhood - and he hoped he might be able to make a difference. It didn't happen and it looks unlikely, once again. Doesn't mean false accusations should be levelled at him.
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But he feels the need to turn up in a suit looking important
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Aug 15, 2012
  • #13
Just a small point of order, but the term 'chinaman' isn't exactly considered complementary. 'Chinese businessman' is a much more agreeable term
 

usskyblue

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  • Aug 15, 2012
  • #14
Get a glip
 

Colonel Mustard

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  • Aug 15, 2012
  • #15
thechase said:
Despite what many on here wish to beleive i am of the opinion its all for self publicity and with zero substance. He wanted fans to turn against the clubs owners by trying to bully SISU into giving the club up for nothing. Amazingly now SISU are being slagged off by fans for trying to bully the players over the bonuses row. Amazing hypocrisy.
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A tad harsh. Even if SISU had walked away, Hoffman would still have needed financial backers to complete a takeover. That said, it is a bit naive for anyone to think that "Hoffman was just a fan at the games" considering he'd turn up at the casino with Keys, Elliott and Ranson in tow!
 
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