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chiefdave

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #36
Skyblueweeman said:
Transport costs on top of that as well. Crazy situation.
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Anywhere that's not local they fly by private jet, that's not going to be possible any more so that on its own will be a big culture shock for them. Going to be a problem for Champions League.
 

Frostie

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #37
No issue at all with this all things considered but you do have to wonder how it's simultaneously perfectly acceptable for Newcastle to be run by who they are.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #38
chiefdave said:
Anywhere that's not local they fly by private jet, that's not going to be possible any more so that on its own will be a big culture shock for them. Going to be a problem for Champions League.
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Yep 100%. It surprises me that these clubs bleat about Green credentials and have Carbon Neutral policies yet fly for domestic games, when a coach journey would be 2hrs.

I work with a L1 club who fly to the odd game due to location but they'll often coach for 5-6 hrs.
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #39
Frostie said:
No issue at all with this all things considered but you do have to wonder how it's simultaneously perfectly acceptable for Newcastle to be run by who they are.
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There's a really interesting disconnect between golf and football in that matter. The Saudi Public Investment Fund which has been responsible for the the takeover of Newcastle, is also funding a new potential breakaway Golf league.

However there's been a decent backlash in the US Sports Media and some players about where this money is coming from. Players are turning down mega-bucks compared to what they're earning on the PGA tour, partly because of the 'link' between the SPIF and those who murdered Jamal Khashoggi.
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #40
 

Jesse Carver

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #41
AOM said:
Thomas Tuchel is on the phone to Megabus as we speak
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Be realistic. You get the best rates through their website.
 
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Jesse Carver

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #42
Essentially they can't benefit from any money coming in (ticket sales/TV revenue/Prize Money etc). All their existing commitments have to be funded by their cash reserves. Their current wage bill is about £28m per month. No way is this sustainable.

If any takeover fails to come to fruition (and at the moment any buyer must be asking where the money is going) eventually they will run out of money, be unable to prove ongoing funding and could in theory be expelled from the league as with Buy and Macclesfield.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #43
chiefdave said:
No more private jets and fancy hotels. Ryan Air it is!

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Lille away is about as local as you could get for a Champions League game. It is about two hours on the train from London, if that.
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #44
Pretty damning

"Abramovich was found by the UK government to have “received preferential treatment and concessions” from the Kremlin and through his business links been “involved in destabilising Ukraine, and undermining and threatening the territorial integrity, sovereignty, and independence” of the eastern European country"

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Skyblueweeman

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #45
stupot07 said:
Pretty damning

"Abramovich was found by the UK government to have “received preferential treatment and concessions” from the Kremlin and through his business links been “involved in destabilising Ukraine, and undermining and threatening the territorial integrity, sovereignty, and independence” of the eastern European country"

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Assume there's no retrospective look at the 'Fit and Proper' owners test?

Or maybe Russian money into the Govt meant that it wasn't needed...
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #46
Skyblueweeman said:
Assume there's no retrospective look at the 'Fit and Proper' owners test?

Or maybe Russian money into the Govt meant that it wasn't needed...
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Manchester City had someone owning the club who according to the CEO was a good guy to play golf with. He was a human rights offender on a huge scale. Blackpool were owned by a rapist - its hardly a stick to beat a government with
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #47
So where is the cash coming from to pay the wages?

Chelsea can't have much in cash reserves to keep the wage bill going
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #48
chiefdave said:
Of course but what I mean is if a requirement of participation in the PL is that you supply x number of tickets for away supporters and Chelsea can't do that then shouldn't there be a penalty?
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I think they can gift the tickets I.e give up there commission% on the ticket sales to away fans.

That is what Simon jordan seemed to think
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #49
Skyblueweeman said:
This is crazy.

With regards to their team stays at away matches - I've not worked on a Chelsea team stay for a few years but they would happily spend £10-£15k on a team stay 5 years ago so with inflation and the cost of hotels (making money after making nothing for two years due to the pandemic), it's definitely going to alter their match preparation.

Transport costs on top of that as well. Crazy situation.

Could be quite seismic this.
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Apparently a lot of the transport arrangements will have been arranged and paid for on a season contract at the start of the season so it might not be quite clear
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #50
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Apparently a lot of the transport arrangements will have been arranged and paid for on a season contract at the start of the season so it might not be quite clear
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Dealing with clubs and their accommodation and logisitics, I can confirm that that's not necessarily the case but on a case by case basis. Budgets can be allocated but often it's more bespoke.

If there's a sponsorship agreement (like Man Utd had with Aeroflot), that would likely entail pre-season financials that covered the seasons transport costs but I think that's rare. Even in the top clubs.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #51
Grendel said:
Manchester City had someone owning the club who according to the CEO was a good guy to play golf with. He was a human rights offender on a huge scale. Blackpool were owned by a rapist - its hardly a stick to beat a government with
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Oh well that's ok then if Russian money is going into the govt.....
 
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chiefdave

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #52
This thing about the shirts is a wind up isn't it? I assumed it was but blue ticked journos from places like the Times are reporting it.

3 have asked for their logo to be removed immediately but Chelsea are in Norwich for a 7:30pm kick off. Be like our game against them all over again.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #53
It won't be real until EA remove them from FIFA22
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Mar 10, 2022
  • #54
Skyblueweeman said:
Yep 100%. It surprises me that these clubs bleat about Green credentials and have Carbon Neutral policies yet fly for domestic games, when a coach journey would be 2hrs.

I work with a L1 club who fly to the odd game due to location but they'll often coach for 5-6 hrs.
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Plymouth?

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Skyblueweeman

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  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #55
skyblue1991 said:
Plymouth?

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Nope
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 11, 2022
  • #56
Skyblueweeman said:
Nope
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Sunderland?
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Mar 13, 2022
  • #57
They still have the 3 logo on their shirts, after 3 asked them to be removed.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #58

Middlesbrough ticket update

Since the below article was first published, the following statement has been released by the FA...
www.chelseafc.com

They can’t sell any more tickets for their away game at Middlesbrough on Saturday, so they want the FA to have the game played behind closed doors “for matters of sporting integrity”. I’m sure Boro will be delighted to help.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #59
Boro should just send them this.


 
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SBT

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  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #60
They didn’t disappoint

Middlesbrough FC - Middlesbrough FC

Welcome to the official website of Middlesbrough Football Club. Visit for Boro's latest news, videos and highlights, plus tickets and match information.
www.mfc.co.uk
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #61

How will they cope.
 
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oakey

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  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #62

The poor wee lambs have to travel by coach, instead of plane, to Boro.
The horror
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #63
oakey said:

The poor wee lambs have to travel by coach, instead of plane, to Boro.
The horror
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Its pretty stupid to be honest.
 
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xcraigx

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #64
Since when has sitting down for 10 hours been hard work?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #65
xcraigx said:
Since when has sitting down for 10 hours been hard work?
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Its not the point is it? I have flown to Newcastle for meetings in preference to driving
 

Nick

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  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #66
Grendel said:
Its not the point is it? I have flown to Newcastle for meetings in preference to driving
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And?
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #67
Nick said:
And?
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And its absurd to make the players take a bus trip. Its ridiculous when I am sure the Newcastle players flew down to London - at least this time they didn't hack a journalist to pieces while murdering him
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #68
SBT said:

Middlesbrough ticket update

Since the below article was first published, the following statement has been released by the FA...
www.chelseafc.com

They can’t sell any more tickets for their away game at Middlesbrough on Saturday, so they want the FA to have the game played behind closed doors “for matters of sporting integrity”. I’m sure Boro will be delighted to help.
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Using that logic wouldn't every home game also have to be behind closed doors which would mean season ticket holders would be after refunds.
 
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Nick

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  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #69
Grendel said:
And its absurd to make the players take a bus trip. Its ridiculous when I am sure the Newcastle players flew down to London - at least this time they didn't hack a journalist to pieces while murdering him
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Pretty sure if they really dislike it that much they could get a plane sorted between them.

Probably the same as me and my mates getting an Uber to town.

I'd happily watch the same happen to Newcastle too.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 15, 2022
  • #70
Nick said:
Pretty sure if they really dislike it that much they could get a plane sorted between them.

Probably the same as me and my mates getting an Uber to town.

I'd happily watch the same happen to Newcastle too.
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Why should they have to sort it between them - its just laughable and pointless.
 
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