Tbf he is left wing but I get what you meanI dunno I'm catching up now via this thread lol.
Either way it doesn't rly matter. My point is some posters don't wanna hear about it if shooter is right wing and say leave it out!
But if left wing it's ok
He wanted him to be right wing so he could have said ‘gotcha’ very strange behaviourTbf he is left wing but I get what you mean
is that co firmed now?Tbf he is left wing but I get what you mean
is that co firmed now?
Nooooooo it's just normal lad group chats. But some have lefties and the other has righties lolPeople are in political WhatsApp groups? Fuck that.
Can't tell if you're on the wind up or this is a genuine question. We literally had Trump giving a statement blaming the left before anyone knew a thing about the shooter.Who? Certainly not many if any and your now tempered excitement is no better. All it does is further the narrative that both sides are wrong.
i’m reading in the last couple hours he’s nick fuentes influenced right winger so i’m not sure
All blacks loved Charlie Kirk....New Zealanders really do seem like a great bunch of respectful people. The haka is great, class people
Have seen lots of people from all races devastated at what’s happenedAll blacks loved Charlie Kirk....
I thought you were on about posters on here, I certainly was.Can't tell if you're on the wind up or this is a genuine question. We literally had Trump giving a statement blaming the left before anyone knew a thing about the shooter.
Tbf it's blue hair or a skinhead, I can spot them both a mile offIt does seem the far left has a lot more of them
loner weirdo types. Maybe it gives them something to feel part of so they are relevant.
The far right you can spot them a mile off, I suppose you know what you are getting with them.
It’s not getting better it’s getting worse, everywhere seems so divided.
right wing usually have a very cropped gelled quiffTbf it's blue hair or a skinhead, I can spot them both a mile off
It does seem the far left has a lot more of them
loner weirdo types.
Nah im talking extreme right. The ones who can eat poppadoms without breaking themright wing usually have a very cropped gelled quiff
Maybe the are just all angry people as they don’t have any mates or fit in. Let’s face it this stuff is rarely done by popular happy people.Anders Breivik, Thomas Mair etc - extreme right wing loner nutcases is a massive thing too.
Yeah I reckon his parents will be targets now
which is totally wrongYeah I reckon his parents will be targets now
I’d imagine in a lot of cases there’s always someone behind it grooming vulnerable people to actually go and carry out the violence.Maybe the are just all angry people as they don’t have any mates or fit in. Let’s face it this stuff is rarely done by popular happy people.
Maybe in places like Russia and China, but in the west? Come on!While this is true, you have to recognise that in practice, both communism and fascism have historically led to authoritarian regimes that oppressed dissent or minorities in different ways.
Fascism is inherently bad. You can't argue against that. But as mentioned a lot of whitewashing has gone into covering up why communism as a political and economic ideology has so often failed, usually at a massive human cost.
Logistically, to get the system to work and get buy in from the population, you need to get rid of vast numbers of the citizens that don't wish to abide by it.
Wherever it’s been tried, it’s brought famine, mass executions, gulags, and economic ruin.
As an ideology it might dress itself up as providing equality, but in reality it has basically always meant trading one form of oppression for another.
Over the years it has changed quite a bit.I couldn't give a toss either tbf. It just seems its the "popular" thing atm.
Its nothing new. For as long as I remember, the gaza strip has been on the news for in-fighting. Even when I was too young to watch, understand, or care for the news, I still remember it being on in the background and it would always include fighting in Gaza. I still to this day dont understand it (bar it being Muslim v Jews) nor do I give a shit. So why now, all of a sudden, it has become popular for singers to wave Palestine flags at festivals ill never know. Its fucking bizarre at best!
It just makes me laugh, when you see "gays for palestine", when in Palestine homosexuality is illegal and carries a prison sentence. And people that are clearly anti-Jew, calling others, a Nazi! Its some fucked up, backwards world we live in today! It really is!
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None of the absolutely horrific school shootings led to any meaningful change, nor will this one. Heck another one of those happened the same day Kirk was killed.I've seen people say that this is some big turning point in American history but really fuck all will actually change, someone tried to take Trump's head off last year and it was almost an afterthought after a few weeks. Being accustomed to gun violence leads to being desensitised by it.
I mean obviouslyI think the rape of 10 year olds is the bigger issue, surely.
Weird as fuckFair play to them, great respect. He won’t be forgotten
Weird as fuck
Why does anyone in England care that much to go out and stand in the streets over a creepy religious guy who hates women thinks rape victims should carry babies to term
I'd never want to live there and think it's pretty horrendous on a societal level but there are definitely much worse places.I can't think of a worst place to live than the United States.
I'd never want to live there and think it's pretty horrendous on a societal level but there are definitely much worse places.
Maybe in places like Russia and China, but in the west? Come on!
We and America have always been staunchly anti Communist and not shy to advertise that. People used to be blacklisted from jobs for being communists. The BBC had a symbol they put on employee records they suspected of being communists so they could keep an eye on them. The security services kept a very watchful eye on known or suspected communists. The likes of Stalin and Mao were definitely seen as bad/evil and that they were responsible for the deaths of tens of millions and were oppressive, executing or disappearing those who dissented.
I don't know what you think the definition of a whitewash is but it sure isn't the same as mine.
By the same criteria there is a whitewashing of the failures of capitalist ideology. It constantly talks up those few that have got rich while ignoring the millions that struggle to get by. It glamorises wealth and oppulence under the pretence that you can have this to if you try hard enough when that is just not true. Many of the richest cities have the highest levels of deprivation. Even the common metric of economic growth deliberately hides the massive discrepancies of a tiny few getting much richer while most get poorer by lumping it all into a single figure.
And for what it's worth, I'm hugely anti-Communist. I think even in its purest form it can't succeed as it's absolutely impossible for everyone to be equal in terms of power, influence and wealth especially when you take human nature and greed into account. And even if you could give everyone exactly the same then you just get a race to the bottom cos if people can't get more by doing more the only way they can 'win' is to get that equal share doing less.
Socialism on the other hand can be done with an equitable, but not equal, share and while there will be an almost infinite number of ways that could occur, and you can reasonably argue about whether it is possible to overcome things like the potential corruption, it does have the possibility of creating a society with a fairer distribution of wealth and power. Not perfect, but better.
Capitalism on the other hand we can see does not do that. It deliberately chooses to value and reward a very small set of circumstances that do not necessarily have any correlation to effort or ability so that a tiny number of people get a lot in perpetuity while most of the people get little. It is an inherently unfair system.
Well, yes of course there are, but there are people over there who are scared to go out of their homes for fear of being attacked or arrested by ICE,just because of their heritage.
Its a hateful place.
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