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CraigSBA · 2026-03-27T18:25:38+0000

shmmeee said:
Just edgy nonsense isn’t it? Of course the owners who lost the ground relegated us to our lowest level in generations and split the fan base in two did more damage.

I agree with you tbh , sisu came here the club had moved onto a new stadium and were averaging over 21000 , they took on 38 million pounds worth of debt and they knew about this before they took over (look at how doug king has navigated us to where we are as a club )

The sisu years were frankly dogshit for 9 years until league 2 and even then the mental shite fans had to endure during the good robins years with further ground shares .
They destroyed the fanbase

Listen , the best way to sum up the sisu years was buying club merch off a pasting table in block 16 , we were by definition tinpot

Shannerz · 2026-03-27T18:36:43+0000

Grendel said:
Come on we’re Man U players reacting negatively to Radcliffes comments? Footballers generally don’t care

Apparently unhappy that they let him ooze his way into the dressing room.

An invasion of space.

Also, your last statement isn't one you can in any way corroborate. Footballers, generally, are advised to keep quiet. That's all you can say. Apart from perhaps that they are also a disparate collection of young men, and so no doubt hold as many different opinions on the world as in any other section of society.

covcity4life · 2026-03-27T18:54:51+0000

Flying Fokker said:
If so, why did Fokking SISU choose to take us on so many unwanted journeys?

Because of damage done by previous owners?

Sisu overall did more good than harm once it was all said and done. They left us much better offf in championship than we were before they arrived . It wasn't just back to where we started. We now had potential and they got us closer to stadium by taking on the council for years and calling their bluff etc

They may have been shite and got perhaps got lucky many times along the way but they still overall helped improve our situation after what had come before they arrived. It's just a fact wether you like them or not.

Grendel · 2026-03-27T18:58:47+0000

shmmeee said:
Just edgy nonsense isn’t it? Of course the owners who lost the ground relegated us to our lowest level in generations and split the fan base in two did more damage.

We lost the ground as the council refused extensions on the original stadium and then gave an unworkable deal - as you and your family know all too well

shmmeee · 2026-03-27T19:01:10+0000

CraigSBA said:
I agree with you tbh , sisu came here the club had moved onto a new stadium and were averaging over 21000 , they took on 38 million pounds worth of debt and they knew about this before they took over (look at how doug king has navigated us to where we are as a club )

The sisu years were frankly dogshit for 9 years until league 2 and even then the mental shite fans had to endure during the good robins years with further ground shares .
They destroyed the fanbase

Listen , the best way to sum up the sisu years was buying club merch off a pasting table in block 16 , we were by definition tinpot

Yeah Richardson and McGinnity were poor but not on the same scale and were dealing with a club relegated for the first time with football finance going crazy. Sisu took over a midtable Champ club with an option on a ground and took us out of the city to the lowest level while running up huge debt in the process. Without Robins we don’t get bought out by King and god knows where we’d be. Towards the end even as a top ten Champ side we were selling players to pay for the pitch. Just a shambles all round. And that’s before you look at the fact the club ended up paying £40m for the thing they broke the rent because they didn’t want it at half that price.

fernandopartridge · 2026-03-27T19:03:16+0000

shmmeee said:
Just edgy nonsense isn’t it? Of course the owners who lost the ground relegated us to our lowest level in generations and split the fan base in two did more damage.

The ground was lost in 1999 when HR was sold. SISU were the consequences of what happened before that.

Grendel · 2026-03-27T19:05:55+0000

shmmeee said:
Yeah Richardson and McGinnity were poor but not on the same scale and were dealing with a club relegated for the first time with football finance going crazy. Sisu took over a midtable Champ club with an option on a ground and took us out of the city to the lowest level while running up huge debt in the process. Without Robins we don’t get bought out by King and god knows where we’d be. Towards the end even as a top ten Champ side we were selling players to pay for the pitch. Just a shambles all round. And that’s before you look at the fact the club ended up paying £40m for the thing they broke the rent because they didn’t want it at half that price.

Sisu only were here as your wanker mates at the council forced them forward as the only option to own the club

Just fuck off with your revisionist bollocks

Grendel · 2026-03-27T19:08:16+0000

fernandopartridge said:
The ground was lost in 1999 when HR was sold. SISU were the consequences of what happened before that.

Then of course the cretin McGinnity sold the buy back rights in the hope his company would get the seating contract

CraigSBA · 2026-03-27T19:25:24+0000

Without arguing

didnt mcginnity reduce debts by over half from over 60 million in the 4 years before joe elliot took over ?

How is he as bad as sisu , im interested

Im all ears , i was only 17/18 during these years

Lamps · 2026-03-27T19:35:16+0000

CraigSBA said:
Without arguing

didnt mcginnity reduce debts by over half from over 60 million in the 4 years before joe elliot took over ?

How is he as bad as sisu , im interested

Im all ears , i was only 17/18 during these years

Without McGinnity there wouldn't have been SISU.

Grendel · 2026-03-27T19:39:31+0000

CraigSBA said:
Without arguing

didnt mcginnity reduce debts by over half from over 60 million in the 4 years before joe elliot took over ?

How is he as bad as sisu , im interested

Im all ears , i was only 17/18 during these years

the clubs external debt was very low and also was mainly with co op bank. We could under rules at the time just put the club into admin with no penalties.

Richardson wanted that but was booted out as the debt was mainly owed to Robinson - McGinnity was just his stooge so he decided to then just run the club down to still stay in business.

McGinnity was slaughtered in the Justice Taylor report on how he exploited the Hillsborough disaster to try with his crony Bert Millichip to make a killing on all seater stadiums. He assumed he’d be given the Ricoh deal if he effectively handed over the purchase rights to the original ground and moved

He didn’t get the seating contract. Much of the original debt just carried over when Sisu purchased and was dumped in SBS and L

torchomatic · 2026-03-27T19:39:50+0000

fernandopartridge said:
The ground was lost in 1999 when HR was sold. SISU were the consequences of what happened before that.

Absolutely. Started with BR.

CraigSBA · 2026-03-27T19:41:42+0000

Grendel said:
the clubs external debt was very low and also was mainly with co op bank. We could under rules at the time just put the club into admin with no penalties.

Richardson wanted that but was booted out as the debt was mainly owed to Robinson - McGinnity was just his stooge so he decided to then just run the club down to still stay in business.

McGinnity was slaughtered in the Justice Taylor report on how he exploited the Hillsborough disaster to try with his crony Bert Millichip to make a killing on all seater stadiums. He assumed he’d be given the Ricoh deal if he effectively handed over the purchase rights to the original ground and moved

He didn’t get the seating contract. Much of the original debt just carried over when Sisu purchased and was dumped in SBS and L

Ok didnt know much of this

To be honest though in my match going years the sisu years felt pretty terrible for many years .. it was a long winded war of attrition and left the fans feeling hopeless .. it was a pretty terrible time

Brighton Sky Blue · 2026-03-27T19:50:39+0000

CraigSBA said:
Ok didnt know much of this

To be honest though in my match going years the sisu years felt pretty terrible for many years .. it was a long winded war of attrition and left the fans feeling hopeless .. it was a pretty terrible time

Put it another way, we went from a club that had spent 34 years in the top flight to a bottom half second tier one very rapidly. That doesn’t happen without something quite seriously wrong at the top of the club. There were compounding factors with the ITV Digital collapse and generally getting relegated at a very bad time, just before TV money accelerated in the Prem. But those running the club made it especially exposed and vulnerable.

This is to take nothing from what SISU did and Ray Ranson especially gets off lightly for his role in things going pear shaped in my opinion. We have just been very badly run for nearly a quarter of a century-had the previous lot stayed in charge instead things would likely have been little better.

robbiethemole · 2026-03-27T20:00:49+0000

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Put it another way, we went from a club that had spent 34 years in the top flight to a bottom half second tier one very rapidly. That doesn’t happen without something quite seriously wrong at the top of the club. There were compounding factors with the ITV Digital collapse and generally getting relegated at a very bad time, just before TV money accelerated in the Prem. But those running the club made it especially exposed and vulnerable.

This is to take nothing from what SISU did and Ray Ranson especially gets off lightly for his role in things going pear shaped in my opinion. We have just been very badly run for nearly a quarter of a century-had the previous lot stayed in charge instead things would likely have been little better.

just like what's happened at Leicester?

Brighton Sky Blue · 2026-03-27T20:02:18+0000

robbiethemole said:
just like what's happened at Leicester?

That is a fall from grace for the record books.

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