Brighton Sky Blue
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Clubs that are ruining the sport are fair game for me.
Clubs that are ruining the sport are fair game for me.Oh come on. It's obvious what I mean. Football fans were obsessed with the sport as a whole. I would take great pleasure in reading the history of the European cup past winners or watching aidre Vs rangers in Scottish cup. Doesn't mean I had to sit there and praise those clubs I just didn't hate them
I get that and your entitled to your opinionClubs that are ruining the sport are fair game for me.
I was about 5 when Blackburn won the title and I wasn’t even born when Elton John was spending money at Watford.So you didn’t like Watford Blackburn or Wigan? Strangely you like Steve “cheat code”’Gibson - the Fl did us a lot of favours by allowing us to flounce a lot of rules that pissed off a lot of clubs by the way
I wasn’t even born when Watford splashed the cash and was a tiny boy when Blackburn won the league. Give me Wimbledon’s rise up the leagues over what either club did any day.I get that and your entitled to your opinion
I think Grendel was just asking why you not vocal about Watford or Blackburn etc who did it in the past
What if a tycoon takes over in prem and tries to buy lots of players for big transfer fees? How will you feel?I wasn’t even born when Watford splashed the cash and was a tiny boy when Blackburn won the league. Give me Wimbledon’s rise up the leagues over what either club did any day.
Clubs that are ruining the sport are fair game for me.
That would depend on what sort of tycoon it was. If you mean a richer version of Doug King or an oil tycoon looking to turn us into a sportswashing operation that is.What if a tycoon takes over in prem and tries to buy lots of players for big transfer fees? How will you feel?
What if a tycoon takes over in prem and tries to buy lots of players for big transfer fees? How will you feel?
I wasn’t even 2 at the start of the first PL season.People in glass houses.......
The founding members of the Premier league started the rot.
I wasn’t even born when Watford splashed the cash and was a tiny boy when Blackburn won the league. Give me Wimbledon’s rise up the leagues over what either club did any day.
Of course you do, it's the contrary position to take.I just read all this about Wrexham and don’t get it. I hope they go up
I wasn’t even 2 at the start of the first PL season.
Of course you do, it's the contrary position to take.
You're completely right that it's hardly the first instance of a club being inflated by massive financial input unrelated to success on the pitch, though.
They may well be the first to do it with this degree of fawning, however.
What? I’m talking about the 80s and their rise from non league to FA Cup winners and the top flight.Wimbledon went bust - you are just spouting shite
Fair enough mate, I should have refused to support Coventry because they founded a league while I was still in nappies.What’s that to do with anything - you’ve just used Wimbledon from the 80’s as an example!
I wasn’t even 2 at the start of the first PL season.
But Elton John was before?Not really relevant, we helped form the PL, we played our part in facilitating everything that followed.
Stop being obsessed with celebrities!But Elton John was before?
Says the guy whos been fawning over Ryan Reynolds all day!Stop being obsessed with celebrities!
Says the guy whos been fawning over Ryan Reynolds all day!
When it comes to deciding which club to support, ie my hometown club or nobody else, it is relevant. It’s not a deal breaker.Not really relevant, we helped form the PL, we played our part in facilitating everything that followed.
Sorry dont put me in detention!
You need a spanking!Sorry dont put me in detention!
Fair enough mate, I should have refused to support Coventry because they founded a league while I was still in nappies.
Fair enough mate, I should have refused to support Coventry because they founded a league while I was still in nappies.
I'd probably keep following the team but the success would feel pretty empty. I know a Man City fan who's supported them since the 60s, he's pleased to see the club performing as it is but he's also said it doesn't really feel like 'his' club anymore and the success feels a bit hollow.If you were a Wrexham supporter before the takeover would you have then refused to support again?
I'd probably keep following the team but the success would feel pretty empty. I know a Man City fan who's supported them since the 60s, he's pleased to see the club performing as it is but he's also said it doesn't really feel like 'his' club anymore and the success feels a bit hollow.
I don't think anyone is denying football is brokenI'd probably keep following the team but the success would feel pretty empty. I know a Man City fan who's supported them since the 60s, he's pleased to see the club performing as it is but he's also said it doesn't really feel like 'his' club anymore and the success feels a bit hollow.
It really isn't.Sorry that’s bollocks
And I've said countless times they're just the latest in a long list of examples. To say I don't care about Chelsea and their Russian oil tycoon who really got the ball rolling on all this piss taking is bizarre.I don't think anyone is denying football is broken
But Wrexham are not doing anything worse than those that came before them. They just have more eyeballs on their project that's all
Famous old club, their history isn't wiped out cos of ownership
Look at Oldham. Would you hate their long suffering fans if they got some money all of a sudden?
All I'm saying is it's not a perfect world I get that but so many clubs contribute to that not just Wrexham.
Chelsea just got done for cheating and no one really cares. But a non League team move up the leagues and that's bang out of order.
Alright, come along and meet him on Saturday morning and you can tell him he's talking shite.Sorry that’s bollocks
When it comes to deciding which club to support, ie my hometown club or nobody else, it is relevant. It’s not a deal breaker.
Taking aside that I think English football has been ruined by ownership rules, not the Premier League’s formation. And that’s what the discussion is really about: should we allow tycoons to come in and take the piss or should we have some sorts of controls as they do in Germany.
I was asked why I don’t have a problem with Blackburn or Watford based on what those clubs did 30-40 years ago. If I were an adult football fan around those times I would have done. Wimbledon’s famous rise up the leagues at a similar time is just my preferred football ‘story’ compared to the moving story of a club that spent £50-100 million to achieve 4 promotions.
The founding of the Premier League is unrelated to the rules concerning club ownership and football finance. On the contrary, in a different timeline we have an abundance of TV money making its way through the pyramid with clubs that are still in the hands of their supporters. When we welcomed in Roman Abramovich that's when it really started to run away.I'd be all for some of the controls they have in Germany. But it's never going to happen.
And when the PL was formed, which we voted for, it lead us to where we are now, so not much point in crying over something we helped to create.
I find Wrexhams owners far less objectionable than Man Us, Newcastles, Liverpool or even Stokes or Brightons.
I think the distaste for Wrexham stems from who rather than how. There's not a lot of love for the Yanks in general atmI'd be all for some of the controls they have in Germany. But it's never going to happen.
And when the PL was formed, which we voted for, it lead us to where we are now, so not much point in crying over something we helped to create.
I find Wrexhams owners far less objectionable than Man Us, Newcastles, Liverpool or even Stokes or Brightons.
It really isn't.
Lived in Manchester for a long time, and knew a good few Manchester City fans. A good few had become jaded with it and felt the club was no longer one they felt a part of. Not all, obviously, but a good few.
Success at all costs isn't the be-all and end-all for a lot of supporters.
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