Championship thread 25/26! (53 Viewers)

Ccfcisparks said:

Soft at the back against us

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That's not what David stated though is it?

For the record I'd agree with you on that as Ayling was clearly the wrong selection. Against a side with as much firepower as you have we ideally should have employed him in a CB 3, or at the very least had Fry start in his place. Still, it's a learning curve and at least Hellberg has learned from that as we saw against Brum.

In the same way you were utterly useless upfront against Ipswich. But I'd hardly dismiss you full stop as "utterly useless up front" (and doubt many Ipswich fans would either tbh) as the rest of your championship stats say you're very potent up front.

Ipad Boro said:

That's not what David stated though is it?

For the record I'd agree with you on that as Ayling was clearly the wrong selection. Against a side with as much firepower as you have we ideally should have employed him in a CB 3, or at the very least had Fry start in his place. Still, it's a learning curve and at least Hellberg has learned from that as we saw against Brum.

In the same way you were utterly useless upfront against Ipswich. But I'd hardly dismiss you full stop as "utterly useless up front" (and doubt many Ipswich fans would either tbh) as the rest of your championship stats say you're very potent up front.

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TBF mate we've scored 3 or more goals against you in 5 of the last 6 games.

Shannerz said:

No, I don't! And neither do you.

I'm not going to pretend that I'm not a little sceptical, but I'm not going to make ridiculous pronouncements either.

I'm not denying anything, I'm reserving judgement, which, call me old fashioned, seems the more rational path to take.

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The rational path is not pretending EMC and Kitching and Sakamoto are relevant comparables. It’s saying “huh this guy is not following the normal path first team signings of that expenditure make”.

DACMAC said:

I know this isn't news, but a lot can change over the last 10 games of the season. Look at last year for range of outcomes.

	After 36	After 46	Points final 10
Leeds	76​	100​	24​
Sheff Utd	76​	90​	14​
Burnley	74​	100​	26​
Sunderland	68​	76​	8​
Coventry	56​	69​	13​
West Brom	55​	64​	9​
Bristol City	53​	68​	15​

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I read this with my fingers in my ears. Just believe.

shmmeee said:

Maybe you can name players we’ve signed who had played eight minutes after a month and then went on to become a regular.

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Don’t think Ian Wallace did that much until 6 or 7 weeks.

shmmeee said:

The rational path is not pretending EMC and Kitching and Sakamoto are relevant comparables.

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You asked for players who didn't feature much on arrival but went on to be regulars; I gave you a couple of examples.

I'm hardly going to compare them to a player I haven't seen play in any meaningful sense. It's you who's doing that.

shmmeee said:

The rational path is not pretending EMC and Kitching and Sakamoto are relevant comparables. It’s saying “huh this guy is not following the normal path first team signings of that expenditure make”.

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Did he cost £4.5m? That seems high. I assumed £1m or so. How do we know this?

curly_tom said:

Did he cost £4.5m? That seems high. I assumed £1m or so. How do we know this?

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I think it was reported in the Swiss media, but may have been based on comments from the selling club's chairman.

Derby, Wrexham and Stoke fan tonight. Charlton tomorrow.

fernandopartridge said:

TBF mate we've scored 3 or more goals against you in 5 of the last 6 games.

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Indeed. However, the majority of those games are as valid to our side's overall defensive abilities now as the two nil nils prior to those being valid to your current strength of attack.

We have different LBs and RBs, two new CBs, and a completely different manager.

Again though I'd refer you to my original point; in no way shape or form do two games against you act as an accurate benchmark of whether we can fairly consistently defend or not. We're nowhere near Burnley last year levels, I'll grant you. But we're certainly not shabby at the back, overall.

Unless of course you want to accept a 3 goals scored total from your last 5 meetings with Ipswich Town as a fitting benchmark of your team's current strength up front, as it's about as good am indicator as that.

Both of which are ridiculous notions full stop.

Liquid Gold said:

Never did I think I’d see posts saying they don’t want premier league football or if we do get there to barely spend any money.

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Who has said barely spend any money? Not seen that myself.

How much do you think we should spend without a big cash injection?