Brighton Sky Blue
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If not an outright sale, welcoming some investment is an option too.
If not an outright sale, welcoming some investment is an option too.I think Doug enjoys the limelight to much and will stay so can't see him selling up. He'll improve the infrastructure ofvl club even more i think, Ryton upgrade and buy the Connexion back, develop the accedmy. He'll want his face and shiny haircut on the Sky cameras more than ever
Did he spill any secrets about selling or staying?
I wouldn't say I'm a proponent of it but if you like scoring Internet points please take one.I think he’ll want to sell it or keep us up. I can’t see why you’d spend £70m getting here then not try and stay personally and I think it’s cope from fans who want an excuse when we’re relegated.
The irony of the “come straight back up” proponents like yourself is the one club to do what you propose went down to L1 after their relegation.
On the Coventry homes on cwr said he couldn’t do it aloneNo. This was well before we were flying this season though.
I wouldn't say I'm a proponent of it but if you like scoring Internet points please take one.
I am explaining what I think Doug's approach will be. Ideal state you stay up without endangering the long term stability of the club if it fails - I don't think Doug is going to bet the farm on staying up, nor is he going to do nothing. I think he'll look to invest in players as assets - and that means likely not buying proven Premiership quality, which is a risk that you have to mitigate - hence needing to have a plan for those signings failing and relegation happening.
Markelo will be in the squad as will Eccles25 man squad. As it stands it’s:
GK: Wilson, Dovin (1 short)
RB: MvE, KKH (probably OK)
LB: Dasilva, Brau (surely Brau isn’t up to scratch so 1 short)
CB: Thomas, Kitch, Lats, Woolf (Think most agree we need an upgrade over Lats/Kitch here Lats has a year left so probably he’ll be allowed to leave - 1 short)
DM: Grimes, Onyeka, Torp (1 short with Allen OOC)
AM: Rudi, Eccles
RW: Saka, Markelo
LW: EMC (1 short)
ST: Wright, Simms, BTA (most agree need one here BTA or Simms likely to go - 1 short)
That’s 24 so one more somewhere else.
That’s 8 including Onyeka and includes players like Markelo who have struggled to make the team at this level. I think you add a RW as clearly Markelo isn’t an upgrade. Then if we’re brutally honest probably upgrade Eccles too.
It is only right to pass judgement on his ability after he’s failed to impress in 8 minutes of first team football.Markelo will be in the squad
It is only right to pass judgement on his ability after he’s failed to impress in 8 minutes of first team football.
Doug has spoken in the past that if you get to the Prem and become established you have to look at investors. I suspect there could be some minority shareholdings on offer for investment.
People definitely underestimate the gap. It will be interesting to see what Doug does if we get promoted.
There are 2 ends of the spectrum that have been successful -
Brentford (trust your squad approach)
- only signed 3 outfield first-team players & 2 back up keepers in the summer window
- already had Raya, Norgard, Mbuemo, & Toney in the squad
Sunderland (fuck your squad approach)
- 14 first-team players
- Only 2 players from the play-offs make their best XI (Ballard & Le Fee)
Think we'll fall somewhere in the middle
Only on SBT is failing to get on the pitch a reason you might actually be really good.
But how many would Grimes have if he could shoot like Rudoni instead of like Sheaf?He's a centre mid... Grimes has 0 and 2 lol
Where you getting that transfer data from? Wiki has Brentford signing a lot more than that;
Where you getting that transfer data from? Wiki has Brentford signing a lot more than that;
These have confused me too many times. I read "us" and think that we have already played 2, 3, and 4. Am I somehow looking at a message from December? Then I realize "us" is boro.With Charlton, the Baggies and QPR after they face us I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish the season the strongest of the top 4 either tbh. If so this could feasibly get them over the line OR it could get them in good form for the playoffs.
It's all guesswork, but if we get to that stage with a cushion it would help.
| After 36 | After 46 | Points final 10 | |
| Leeds | 76 | 100 | 24 |
| Sheff Utd | 76 | 90 | 14 |
| Burnley | 74 | 100 | 26 |
| Sunderland | 68 | 76 | 8 |
| Coventry | 56 | 69 | 13 |
| West Brom | 55 | 64 | 9 |
| Bristol City | 53 | 68 | 15 |
A lot of really good players for us were phased in very gradually. Also, he’s 23, chill out. He might not be very good, point is we don’t know yet.
I think Doug enjoys the limelight to much and will stay so can't see him selling up. He'll improve the infrastructure ofvl club even more i think, Ryton upgrade and buy the Connexion back, develop the accedmy. He'll want his face and shiny haircut on the Sky cameras more than ever
I know this isn't news, but a lot can change over the last 10 games of the season. Look at last year for range of outcomes.
After 36 After 46 Points final 10 Leeds Sheff Utd Burnley Sunderland Coventry West Brom Bristol City
I prefer to look at what most probably will happen than what might happen.There’s two unknowns though: a) if the club’s owner sells up and b) if we get big offers in for any of this season’s regulars.
Can you name these really good players?
Why would we sign him for multiple millions, at a point where we were top of the league, if we didn’t think he could play a part in the prem?Only on SBT is failing to get on the pitch a reason you might actually be really good.
Tbf Sunderland were the side overwhelmingly most likely to finish in the playoffs after that point and wanted to make sure they got no injuries for them, so just tossed it off for a lot of their remaining games. Their points haul in the last 10 games can be taken with a pinch of salt.I know this isn't news, but a lot can change over the last 10 games of the season. Look at last year for range of outcomes.
After 36 After 46 Points final 10 Leeds Sheff Utd Burnley Sunderland Coventry West Brom Bristol City
So we should spend an absolute fortune in transfer fees and then have a massive wage bill in the hope of staying up?The whole “putting our future at risk” angle doesn’t really stand up to scrutiny unless we literally signed no good players. Most of the time, if you’re relegated you can sell 2-3 players and recoup over 50% of your spend.
So we should spend an absolute fortune in transfer fees and then have a massive wage bill in the hope of staying up?
Even the Prem sides that have been up there for years are now paying the price. It has to be done in a sustainable way. Spurs are now in serious trouble. This season we have benefited from the sides being relegated. We just need to keep within our means to get a stronger squad and see what happens. There's so many clubs in financial difficulties that just being within our means with a stronger squad will put us above most.
So we should spend an absolute fortune in transfer fees and then have a massive wage bill in the hope of staying up?
Even the Prem sides that have been up there for years are now paying the price. It has to be done in a sustainable way. Spurs are now in serious trouble. This season we have benefited from the sides being relegated. We just need to keep within our means to get a stronger squad and see what happens. There's so many clubs in financial difficulties that just being within our means with a stronger squad will put us above most.
So we should spend an absolute fortune in transfer fees and then have a massive wage bill in the hope of staying up?
Even the Prem sides that have been up there for years are now paying the price. It has to be done in a sustainable way. Spurs are now in serious trouble. This season we have benefited from the sides being relegated. We just need to keep within our means to get a stronger squad and see what happens. There's so many clubs in financial difficulties that just being within our means with a stronger squad will put us above most.
We wouldn't really be left with a massive wage bill though?
All contracts would have relegation clauses inserted in them which typically amount to around 40-50% upon relegation.
I would've thought similar to Ipswich there would be a player or two that we'd be able to move on for sizeable fees as well which should cover any operating costs we're stuck with - plus we'd receive a couple of years of parachute payments on top of that.
Spurs is a bit of a backward comparison. They'll be in huge trouble because they've deployed such a conservative approach and didn't heed the warnings of last season.
Also their situation is far more complex and unique. They lost around £130m last year and much of their income is quite literally dependent on them remaining in the PL and/or Europe - e.g. sponsorships.
If they get relegated you're also possibly looking at a massive drop off in attendance.
Sunderland stuck with 'whathisface' on £60k a week in L1 after successive relegations. Nearly crippled them at the time.There are no examples of clubs trying to stay up in the PL and causing themselves massive financial difficulties. It’s become a shibboleth on here that you mustn’t spend any money or the FFP goblins will eat you and you’ll become Bury but that’s not what fucked us under Sisu and it’s not fucked any parachute club ever. At worse clubs come down and fart about back in th Championship for a bit. Clubs that get into serious trouble tend to do so from below the PL cos the PL gives you stacks of cash. Spurs are not going to go bust.
It’s like the “we must own our stadium” stuff. Just a rock that keep away bears when our fortunes are far more closely tied to how competent our owners are at this level and below and we can’t impact that.
There are no examples of clubs trying to stay up in the PL and causing themselves massive financial difficulties. It’s become a shibboleth on here that you mustn’t spend any money or the FFP goblins will eat you and you’ll become Bury but that’s not what fucked us under Sisu and it’s not fucked any parachute club ever. At worse clubs come down and fart about back in th Championship for a bit. Clubs that get into serious trouble tend to do so from below the PL cos the PL gives you stacks of cash. Spurs are not going to go bust.
It’s like the “we must own our stadium” stuff. Just a rock that keep away bears when our fortunes are far more closely tied to how competent our owners are at this level and below and we can’t impact that.
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