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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 11:53 AM
  • #14,876
Ipad Boro said:
It's not, as he mentions that the underlying issue is that it shouldn't come down to decisions if all is well. He knows changes need to be made within our approach, takes that on the chin, and always absolves his players of guilt, blaming himself instead (as he did about the first half against yourselves for example)

But when it comes to lifelines being given, they should be consistent. The Leicester game tbh I wasn't surprised to see the eventuality, think that was merely the most recent in his mind at the time.
But our penalty against Oxford and your penalty against us should have had the same outcome, either they were both penalties or they both weren't.

In my own opinion they both were, so I'm hardly going to begrudge you yours. But we should have then likely beaten Oxford with one, (despite their record against the top 4 they offer less going forward to try and come back from a goal down) and as a result had more breathing space ahead of Ipswich.

A fact which won't be lost on Hellberg, and by not mentioning it, there's more chance it will go unnoticed by those that run the game and are ultimately responsible for inconsistent decisions, which I'm sure you'd agree the Championship has been rife with this season.
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every team feels like they are hard done to by decisions. facts are that over the season they balance out. you got lucky with Hackney not being sent off the other week.
 
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Shannerz

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  • Today at 12:06 PM
  • #14,877
Ipad Boro said:
What I would complain at is the fact that Oxford handled too in similar circumstances in the box and unintentional or not, by the same laws of the game, penalty to Boro would have been the only right decision.
When that decision has been laid bare with reasoning in just the game previous and would pretty likely have put us 8 points above Ipswich and not 6 to nullify their games in hand.
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We can all point to decisions that haven't gone the way of our team.

We've had a spate of them; in fact, clustered around the Christmas / January period there were several, possibly the most significant being Ipswich not having a man sent off for committing the same offence when on a booking that our player had been previously booked for. It was 0-0 at the time and we were on top. We ended up losing 3-0.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 12:07 PM
  • #14,878
Ipad Boro said:
Nah, it clearly perplexed and frustrated him and he had a great point.

IMHO Targett's handball in our game against you wasn't intentional, but that's not the point. It may have came at a crucial time when we pulled a goal back and were dominant which made it frustrating at the time, but it came when it came and by the laws of the game, it was a penalty, I wasn't surprised to see it given and have no complaints about your being awarded it at all.

What I would complain at is the fact that Oxford handled too in similar circumstances in the box and unintentional or not, by the same laws of the game, penalty to Boro would have been the only right decision.
When that decision has been laid bare with reasoning in just the game previous and would pretty likely have put us 8 points above Ipswich and not 6 to nullify their games in hand.

I can perfectly understand Hellberg's reaction to this.
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This is fair, but really it pales into comparison with how many nailed on penalties we haven’t been given this season. As in an eye watering amount.

The truth is really that the standard of refereeing in this league is nowhere near good enough. Ipswich and Wrexham have been the main beneficiaries of that, clubs like ourselves less so. I will repeat again though, Targett got away with a dreadful challenge against Lesta, Hackney got away with kicking out against Blackburn. So it isn’t all one way.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Today at 12:21 PM
  • #14,879
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is fair, but really it pales into comparison with how many nailed on penalties we haven’t been given this season. As in an eye watering amount.

The truth is really that the standard of refereeing in this league is nowhere near good enough. Ipswich and Wrexham have been the main beneficiaries of that, clubs like ourselves less so. I will repeat again though, Targett got away with a dreadful challenge against Lesta, Hackney got away with kicking out against Blackburn. So it isn’t all one way.
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Lot more balanced since Xmas
 

SBAndy

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  • Today at 12:26 PM
  • #14,880
Shannerz said:
We can all point to decisions that haven't gone the way of our team.

We've had a spate of them; in fact, clustered around the Christmas / January period there were several, possibly the most significant being Ipswich not having a man sent off for committing the same offence when on a booking that our player had been previously booked for. It was 0-0 at the time and we were on top. We ended up losing 3-0.
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That Hirst non-sending off still sends me slightly mad.
 
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Ipad Boro

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  • Today at 12:28 PM
  • #14,881
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is fair, but really it pales into comparison with how many nailed on penalties we haven’t been given this season. As in an eye watering amount.

The truth is really that the standard of refereeing in this league is nowhere near good enough. Ipswich and Wrexham have been the main beneficiaries of that, clubs like ourselves less so. I will repeat again though, Targett got away with a dreadful challenge against Lesta, Hackney got away with kicking out against Blackburn. So it isn’t all one way.
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Oh whilst he's certainly not in the same bracket as that nutcase at Preston, Hackney can be hot-headed and on this occasion can consider himself a lucky boy.

As a side note (and part tongue in cheek) I wonder if Wrexham's dominance over Ipswich in their games overall has anything to do with them for a change being up against a side with similar jam?
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Today at 12:46 PM
  • #14,882
Portsmouth have made a bright start against Hull, although it’s still 0-0.

I’m not particularly concerned about Hull overtakings us but the more possible contenders that fall by the wayside the better.
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 12:47 PM
  • #14,883
Portsmouth definitely the better side so far but Hull have been a threat at times. Certainly not looking like a Hull win here
 
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SBAndy

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  • Today at 12:48 PM
  • #14,884
Lamps said:
Portsmouth definitely the better side so far but Hull have been a threat at times. Certainly not looking like a Hull win here
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Based on good old xG, I don’t think any game this season has looked like a Hull win.
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 1:18 PM
  • #14,885
O-0 HT. All Portsmouth since the disallowed goal for Hull at the start of the game
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Today at 1:19 PM
  • #14,886
Lamps said:
O-0 HT. All Portsmouth since the disallowed goal for Hull at the start of the game
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Pompey battering hull
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Today at 1:20 PM
  • #14,887
Wow derby have sh1t the bed haven’t they
Michael O’Neill doing a fabulous job at Blackburn
 

Lamps

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  • Today at 1:24 PM
  • #14,888
Sky Blue Pete said:
Pompey battering hull
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Been 1 way traffic. Portsmouth would be ahead if they had someone who knew how to shoot.
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Today at 1:28 PM
  • #14,889
Pompey 69% possession and 14 shots to 1

It will probably end 1-0 to Hull
 
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Otis

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  • Today at 1:36 PM
  • #14,890
Ipad Boro said:
Nah, it clearly perplexed and frustrated him and he had a great point.

IMHO Targett's handball in our game against you wasn't intentional, but that's not the point. It may have came at a crucial time when we pulled a goal back and were dominant which made it frustrating at the time, but it came when it came and by the laws of the game, it was a penalty, I wasn't surprised to see it given and have no complaints about your being awarded it at all.

What I would complain at is the fact that Oxford handled too in similar circumstances in the box and unintentional or not, by the same laws of the game, penalty to Boro would have been the only right decision.
When that decision has been laid bare with reasoning in just the game previous and would pretty likely have put us 8 points above Ipswich and not 6 to nullify their games in hand.

I can perfectly understand Hellberg's reaction to this.
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I do think the handball rules are an ass. Accidental should hold much more prominence than it does.

The Targett one was unfortunate because there was no deliberate intent, but as the law stands, it's handball all day long. His arms were well away from his body.

It needs looking at by the governing bodies further for sure.
 
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Otis

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  • Today at 1:38 PM
  • #14,891
SBAndy said:
That Hirst non-sending off still sends me slightly mad.
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Is there any video of that anywhere. I haven't seen the incident yet.
 

SBAndy

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  • Today at 1:50 PM
  • #14,892
Otis said:
Is there any video of that anywhere. I haven't seen the incident yet.
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Eccles booking 1 minute into this, Hirst non-booking 3:30 in.
 
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Nick

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  • 52 minutes ago
  • #14,893
Norwich beating Leicester
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • 50 minutes ago
  • #14,894
Nick said:
Norwich beating Leicester
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Deservedly so
 

Lamps

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  • 49 minutes ago
  • #14,895
1-0 Hull bad mistake in defence
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • 49 minutes ago
  • #14,896
Vipotnik on bench for Swansea
 

Evo1883

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  • 49 minutes ago
  • #14,897
Hull are irritating
 
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Otis

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  • 49 minutes ago
  • #14,898
Hull haven't been in the game.

Been all Pompey
 

StrettoBoy

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  • 49 minutes ago
  • #14,899
StrettoBoy said:
Pompey 69% possession and 14 shots to 1

It will probably end 1-0 to Hull
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As I said
 
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Nick

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  • 49 minutes ago
  • #14,900
If west Brom win against Oxford the gap starts growing

Hull winning and up to 3rd
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • 49 minutes ago
  • #14,901
Evo1883 said:
Hull are irritating View attachment 49526
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I'd be more worried if they didnt have such difficult fixtures
 

StrettoBoy

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  • 46 minutes ago
  • #14,902
Nick said:
Norwich beating Leicester
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Danceswithhorses

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  • 44 minutes ago
  • #14,903
Norwich 2 leic 0
 
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Nick

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  • 44 minutes ago
  • #14,904
2 for Norwich.

Leicester fans going mental
 
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Evo1883

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  • 43 minutes ago
  • #14,905
Imagine a season where cov buy their ground , go to the premier league and leicester get relegated
 
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Leicesterfox

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  • 43 minutes ago
  • #14,906
Two divisions between us next season

Thank god we’ve got some history ⚽️
 
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Leicesterfox

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  • 42 minutes ago
  • #14,907
Evo1883 said:
Imagine a season where cov buy their ground , go to the premier league and leicester get relegated
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Imagine supporting a club where you’ve only had three good seasons
 

Evo1883

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  • 42 minutes ago
  • #14,908
Leicesterfox said:
Imagine supporting a club where you’ve only had three good seasons
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Imagine being on here when youve got a match

 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • 42 minutes ago
  • #14,909
Leicesterfox said:
Two divisions between us next season

Thank god we’ve got some history ⚽️
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Games on, and youre on our forum.
 

Nick

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  • 42 minutes ago
  • #14,910
Leicesterfox said:
Imagine supporting a club where you’ve only had three good seasons
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Imagine logging in on here when your team are playing at home. Not gone?
 
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