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  • Thread starter PUSB-We_are_going_up
  • Start date Aug 17, 2021
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #1

Ive seen this on my socials is most xg scored good I cant remember?
 

matesx

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #2
so what does that mean?
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #3
Where's most penalties missed?
 

Jamiepwns

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #4
matesx said:
so what does that mean?
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To put it basically:

Based on where our shots have come from, and how they were taken, you then compare this to thousands of other similar shots to work out the probability of a goal coming from it.

It doesn't mean much on its own, but as we've only scored two, it shows that some shots were fluffed or the keeper did well to save it.

Like a penalty has an xG of 0.76, but against Barnsely the keeper saved it.
 

fatso

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #5
What about number of times the woodworks been hit?
 

Jamiepwns

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #6
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
is most xg scored good I cant remember?
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Considering we've only actually scored 2, it's not great.
 
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Frostie

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #7
Basically means we're creating good chances but obviously not taking them.

Bit dubious as to how these guys are measuring xG though. I don't know much about them & think they're new kids on the block?
All the more established, reputable stats sites have us at around 2.6.
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #8
Update on this after yesterday. I’d say Ben Mayhew’s stats back up what we’ve seen so far, creating lots but not finishing enough




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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #9
SkyBlueSoul said:
Update on this after yesterday. I’d say Ben Mayhew’s stats back up what we’ve seen so far, creating lots but not finishing enough




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If only we took our chances, same old same old
 

rob9872

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #10
So basically get Harry Kane on loan before Tuesday's deadline and we'll win the league.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #11
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
If only we took our chances, same old same old
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Is it really accurate when it expects QPR to be 16th?

Even Barnsley or Bristol City?
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #12
SkyBlueSoul said:
Update on this after yesterday. I’d say Ben Mayhew’s stats back up what we’ve seen so far, creating lots but not finishing enough




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It will come
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #13
Evo1883 said:
It will come
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It’s only based on stats which shows something but the game is about actually scoring or not conceding. We look like we belong for definite though
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #14
wingy said:
Is it really accurate when it expects QPR to be 16th?

Even Barnsley or Bristol City?
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It demonstrates perfectly yesterday's match, QPR put one great chance and one half chance away
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 30, 2021
  • #15
The premier league equivalent has Wolves in the top 6 3 places higher than Tottenham
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 30, 2021
  • #16
I think XG tables are generally pointless in many ways .. the pleasing thing for me focusing solely on city is we we are creating many more good chances than in recent seasons and that's a positive for me .. just got to start taking our chances
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #17

Attackers/midfielders who are poor at finishing or just more unlucky than everyone else?
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #18
SlowerThanPlatt said:

Attackers/midfielders who are poor at finishing or just more unlucky than everyone else?
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Lets break down the midfielders... Who have played (no Bright):

Sheaf = Zero goals for the club. Only time he has gone close this season was a deflected shot onto the bar first day.
Hamer = Zero goals since February. We know he can do it as he scored 5 prior to that.
Kelly = Apart from his day out at Wycombe. Nothing for years.
Allen & Shipley = Have chipped in to an extent, but are not regular starters.
O'Hare = We all know he needs to improve on finishing & his final ball.

You can't just rely on strikers.
 
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COV

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #19
lord_garrincha said:
Lets break down the midfielders... Who have played (no Bright):

Sheaf = Zero goals for the club. Only time he has gone close this season was a deflected shot onto the bar first day.
Hamer = Zero goals since February. We know he can do it as he scored 5 prior to that.
Kelly = Apart from his day out at Wycombe. Nothing for years.
Allen & Shipley = Have chipped in to an extent, but are not regular starters.
O'Hare = We all know he needs to improve on finishing & his final ball.

You can't just rely on strikers.
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O'Hare could shift this ratio on his own if he produced a finish every now and then

But I do think the strikers need to deliver more- look at how many times we hit the f**king post- all very dramatic but ultimately its a miss
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #20
COV said:
O'Hare could shift this ratio on his own if he produced a finish every now and then
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And he needs to... He is an attacking midfielder.

I can actually see him playing deeper as he gets older if he can't address it, as he has the work rate & engine to do so.
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #21
There will be games where it practically gos in off our backsides / OPPO score own goals for us. Seems Millwall bore the brunt of our unluckyness last year in both games.

The luck will turn that's football. And it will all average out over 46 games.l
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #22
SlowerThanPlatt said:

Attackers/midfielders who are poor at finishing or just more unlucky than everyone else?
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I suspect it’s the midfielders but would like to see a breakdown of xG by player in the squad.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #23
shmmeee said:
I suspect it’s the midfielders but would like to see a breakdown of xG by player in the squad.
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Look at sheff utd!!!! Lol
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #24
SlowerThanPlatt said:

Attackers/midfielders who are poor at finishing or just more unlucky than everyone else?
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Or a geometrical motif that could be weaker at some points (when it does get measured in xG), but stronger in other places (when it doesn't get measured by xG).

xG doesn't measure the ebb and the flow of games.

The uniqueness of position and all that.
 
Last edited: Sep 3, 2021

SBAndy

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #25
shmmeee said:
I suspect it’s the midfielders but would like to see a breakdown of xG by player in the squad.
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Data taken from an app called FotMob and it doesn’t quite tally to 9.8 xG but still gives a decent reflection:

Gyokeres - 3.09 (2)
O’Hare - 1.24
McFadzean - 1.15 (1)
Waghorn - 0.70
Godden - 0.43 (1)
Maatsen - 0.43
Sheaf - 0.27
Hamer - 0.25
Allen - 0.21 (1)
Hyam - 0.11
Dabo - 0.09
Clarke-Salter - 0.08
Rose - 0.07
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #26
SBAndy said:
Data taken from an app called FotMob and it doesn’t quite tally to 9.8 xG but still gives a decent reflection:

Gyokeres - 3.09 (2)
O’Hare - 1.24
McFadzean - 1.15 (1)
Waghorn - 0.70
Godden - 0.43 (1)
Maatsen - 0.43
Sheaf - 0.27
Hamer - 0.25
Allen - 0.21 (1)
Hyam - 0.11
Dabo - 0.09
Clarke-Salter - 0.08
Rose - 0.07
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You’d really want more from Györkeres and Waghorn looking at that. So maybe it is the strikers. Even removing Györkeres penalty miss, he should have one more for the chances he gets.
 

COV

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #27
shmmeee said:
You’d really want more from Györkeres and Waghorn looking at that. So maybe it is the strikers. Even removing Györkeres penalty miss, he should have one more for the chances he gets.
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It is the strikers imho
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 3, 2021
  • #28
COV said:
It is the strikers imho
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To be fair to Györkeres (and O’Hare) they’re second in the number of shots lists for the division with 17. It doesn’t work like this but fag packet: 3.09/17 is an average of 0.18 per shot it would be lower because one of those was a pen at I think 0.76. O’Hares is even lower at 0.07 per shot. So lots of low quality chances maybe than missing a few sitters. Anecdotally that seems about right.
 
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