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aloisijohnnyaloisi

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  • May 31, 2021
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So after the play off finals this weekend, this is what we're left with. To me it looks like a tough one to call next season, no real obvious favourites for promotion or relegation (with the exception of West Brom perhaps).

With Rotherham, Wycombe and Sheff Weds (-6) last season, I always felt confident we'd have enough to finish above at least them. This time around I think the three teams coming up could all be stronger.

I'm confident we'll kick on and improve next year (because that's what Robins does), but it's very important that we get this transfer window right.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #2
We have the least miles to travel next season.

Peterborough and Hull will be competitive more so than Rotherham and Wycombe imo.
 

aloisijohnnyaloisi

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #3
Blackpool could be decent too, their manager is a very good tactician by all accounts.
 
R

RFC

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #4
Have you already forgotten Derby’s points dedication? Will it be this season or next?
Could be 6 or even 12!
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #5
aloisijohnnyaloisi said:
Blackpool could be decent too, their manager is a very good tactician by all accounts.
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I was hoping they wouldn’t go up so we could sign their left back Luke Garbutt, their season will probably rely on what they can do in the loan market.
 

aloisijohnnyaloisi

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #6
RFC said:
Have you already forgotten Derby’s points dedication? Will it be this season or next?
Could be 6 or even 12!
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Correct, I have forgotten about that!

Is there a chance it'd be applied this season just gone then? That'd be nice to send them down and keep Wycombe up.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #7
SlowerThanPlatt said:
We have the least miles to travel next season.

Peterborough and Hull will be competitive more so than Rotherham and Wycombe imo.
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Disagree - don't really rate Peterborough at all. Rotherham have had a few years yo-yoing, and suffered re: fixture congestion. Hull ought to be stronger than Wycombe, but are not much different to Rotherham imo.
 

aloisijohnnyaloisi

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #8
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I was hoping they wouldn’t go up so we could sign their left back Luke Garbutt, their season will probably rely on what they can do in the loan market.
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Their striker Simms looks like a handful too, on loan from Everton. I'd like to take him next season but with Blackpool coming up maybe he'll be going back to the seaside instead.
 
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procdoc

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #9
If we get our recruitment right then we will finish above all three promoted teams and possibly the likes of Luton, Millwall, Preston, Bristol City and Derby too
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #10
procdoc said:
If we get our recruitment right then we will finish above all three promoted teams and possibly the likes of Luton, Millwall, Preston, Bristol City and Derby too
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I think Luton looked to have a solid 'hard to beat' team, short of a little bit of flair. PNE above Millwall, with Derby and Bristol City at the wrong end of the table - particularly if Derby get hit with a points deduction, and Rooney as manager.
 

Torquay Sky Blue

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #11
Sky Blue Harry H said:
I think Luton looked to have a solid 'hard to beat' team, short of a little bit of flair. PNE above Millwall, with Derby and Bristol City at the wrong end of the table - particularly if Derby get hit with a points deduction, and Rooney as manager.
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Don't forget Huddersfield...they're shit.
We need to be like Luton, they've learnt how to play and survive in this league. We need to be like them and better
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 31, 2021
  • #12
Torquay Sky Blue said:
Don't forget Huddersfield...they're shit.
We need to be like Luton, they've learnt how to play and survive in this league. We need to be like them and better
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Agree. We're lucky in that we have some decent footballers, but we could do with some tough nuts to supplement them. Wouldn't pay to watch Luton, but they have padded their side out with a lot of gritty sorts (their defence in particular, but a lot of their midfield too). It's the one area where we can look vulnerable if our creative players aren't on song. A handful of Ostigards would do nicely
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #13
Think I would take the same position as this year. In my opinion we over achieved so a similar position with some clever player trading setting up for future success.
 
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You'll Never Beat McPake

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #14
First time playing Fulham in the league since 1968. Be nice to go to the Cottage if covid allows
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #15
You'll Never Beat McPake said:
First time playing Fulham in the league since 1968. Be nice to go to the Cottage if covid allows
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Indeed. A good mate of mine is a Fulham fan and we've been waiting for this one for a long time
 

kg82

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #16
And this season was first with Huddersfield in about as long as that wasn’t it? Any other teams we haven’t played in the league in 50+ years?
 

Houchens Head

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #17
I'd love City find a striker like Ivan Toney of Brentford. 33 goals in the season just gone. That is some record! I know there are top teams looking at him and Brentford say they won't be selling him, so no chance of him coming here! But........ if there was a striker out there of the same ilk.....
 
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fatso

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #18
Looking at those teams, it's going to be a tough ask to get near the top half, we definitely need to overhaul the squad, I feel like we need at least 5 first team players bringing in, and we have plenty of dead wood to move on.
MR needs to be a busy boy this pre season.
 
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Hod dog

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #19
id take 16th again, keep ourselves as an established championship club again, start of last year I imagine we would all take 16th for second year in championship and maybe even the night of Rotherham away when we could of gone in bottom 3, any success we could have will be a very slow mover, just need to slowly year by year improve, first year avoid relegation, this year be a lower mid table table team, year 3 try for a mid table position, then maybe year 4 if things going well look at bigger things, but our finances need to improve a lot before we can attract the talent to compete anywhere near top half.

I think we could be better than Hull, Peterborough, Huddersfield, Blackpool, Luton, Derby, after that no idea as i think blues will be better next year and forest
 
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ccfcricoh

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #20
Think we need an outstanding transfer window to finish anywhere above 16th.

The need to replace Mccallum, Ostigard and James before looking to "improve" at all is a fairly big ask.

Arguably we need 5/6 signings that walk into the starting 11 to challenge top half.

i'd take a similar season to last season with less reliance on loans as a good step forward, and appreciate that we will more than likely utilise full loans again anyway.

Looks like an exciting season ahead!
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #21
Given our finances I can't see us not heavily relying on loans, and the success or otherwise of those loans will define what kind of season we have. I certainly don't see a mass influx of permanent signings.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #22
Legia Sky Blue said:
Given our finances I can't see us not heavily relying on loans, and the success or otherwise of those loans will define what kind of season we have. I certainly don't see a mass influx of permanent signings.
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3-4 first teamers plus loans
 

Gibbo

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #23
fatso said:
Looking at those teams, it's going to be a tough ask to get near the top half, we definitely need to overhaul the squad, I feel like we need at least 5 first team players bringing in, and we have plenty of dead wood to move on.
MR needs to be a busy boy this pre season.
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We will have 5b loans as a a start
 

Gibbo

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #24
Sky Blue Pete said:
3-4 first teamers plus loans
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Legia Sky Blue said:
Given our finances I can't see us not heavily relying on loans, and the success or otherwise of those loans will define what kind of season we have. I certainly don't see a mass influx of permanent signings.
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The reverse - loans are good value.
 

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #25
I fancy Bournemouth , WBA , middlesborough , reading , swansea and cardiff for play offs. Will be interesting to see who goes down. I’m cautiously optimistic we can avoid a relegation scrap this year , but won’t rule it out. The 3 relegated clubs’ success will largely depend on who they keep and their managers (two of the three are in search for one at the moment) so apart from bournemouth , imo, there is no clear automatic promotion favourite. The teams coming up from league 1 are interesting. Peterborough should be decent , but we will see if they can keep JCH , Dembele and co. Plus, blackpool have a seemingly Clever manager and Hull have established players at this level. Despite all the nonsense about “worst championship ever” and all that , there certainly won’t be a dull moment
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 1, 2021
  • #26
Legia Sky Blue said:
Given our finances I can't see us not heavily relying on loans, and the success or otherwise of those loans will define what kind of season we have. I certainly don't see a mass influx of permanent signings.
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A club of our stature needs to make a good use of the loan market. However, I do seem to recall Boddy saying something along the lines of us needing to develop and bring in our own talent.

Perhaps I’m being optimistic, but now we’ve survived the first season, you’d hope we can get more permanent signings through the door.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #27
Mucca Mad Boys said:
A club of our stature needs to make a good use of the loan market. However, I do seem to recall Boddy saying something along the lines of us needing to develop and bring in our own talent.

Perhaps I’m being optimistic, but now we’ve survived the first season, you’d hope we can get more permanent signings through the door.
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Looking at our finances I’d say you are being very optimistic

The loan players over the last two seasons - Walsh, o hare, mccallum, Ostigard etc have been key to the club. The problem of course is the more you rely on them the more you accept a constant recycling of the first team
 

slowpoke

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #28
Mucca Mad Boys said:
A club of our stature needs to make a good use of the loan market. However, I do seem to recall Boddy saying something along the lines of us needing to develop and bring in our own talent.

Perhaps I’m being optimistic, but now we’ve survived the first season, you’d hope we can get more permanent signings through the door.
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When is Boddy going to say something we don’t know.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #29
Grendel said:
Looking at our finances I’d say you are being very optimistic

The loan players over the last two seasons - Walsh, o hare, mccallum, Ostigard etc have been key to the club. The problem of course is the more you rely on them the more you accept a constant recycling of the first team
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I’m going off what Boddy has said in April. To briefly summarise, he talks about having 5 loans and the need to improve our own talent.

I don’t disagree. The loan market is instrumental for just about every Championship team, so we’ll need to pick up 2-3 starting quality loans minimum.

We’re increasing our budget this season if you take Boddy’s word at face value. Perhaps they club are expecting a boon to our finances after the RICOH return.

Source: www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/transfer-news/coventry-city-transfers-budget-boddy-20481861.amp
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #30
1. WBA
2. Middlesborough
3. Fulham
4. Barnsley
5. Sheff Utd
6. Swansea
7. Forest
8. Reading
9. Cardiff
10. Cov
11. Blackburn
12. Bournemouth
13. Luton
14. PNE
15. Stoke
16. Millwall
17. QPR
18. Brum
19. Hull
20. Derby
21. Peterborough
22. Blackpool
23. Huddersfield
24. Bristol City

Early predictions will obviously change with signings
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #31
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
1. W
2. Middlesborough
3. Fulham
4. Barnsley
5. Sheff Utd
6. Swansea
7. Forest
8. Reading
9. Cardiff
10. Cov
11. Blackburn
12. Bournemouth
13. Luton
14. PNE
15. Stoke
16. Millwall
17. QPR
18. Brum
19. Hull
20. Derby
21. Peterborough
22. Blackpool
23. Huddersfield
24. Bristol City

Early predictions will obviously change with signings
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Did you use a random generator for this?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #32
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I’m going off what Boddy has said in April. To briefly summarise, he talks about having 5 loans and the need to improve our own talent.

I don’t disagree. The loan market is instrumental for just about every Championship team, so we’ll need to pick up 2-3 starting quality loans minimum.

We’re increasing our budget this season if you take Boddy’s word at face value. Perhaps they club are expecting a boon to our finances after the RICOH return.

Source: www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/transfer-news/coventry-city-transfers-budget-boddy-20481861.amp
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I have to admit, per Boddy's previous comments I do question the feasibility of reducing the number of loans in the squad given our financial situation. Certainly not without a significant influx of revenue earned from a player sale. I understand the sentiment and he's not wrong, but since Robins has returned we've brought in 5+ loans throughout the course of season year on year apart from during the L2 campaign. I certainly can't see that changing this season.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #33
slowpoke said:
When is Boddy going to say something we don’t know.
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He told me that the Azerbaijan president, Ilham Aliyev was born on Christmas Eve, 1961, which is the same day that Wade Williams, an American actor was born in Tulsa. To be honest with you - I can't say I knew that, so hats off to Dave Boddy.
 
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CDK

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #34
Lower mid table will be a successful year I think and building again will be the job to progress further in future season's.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #35
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I have to admit, per Boddy's previous comments I do question the feasibility of reducing the number of loans in the squad given our financial situation. Certainly not without a significant influx of revenue earned from a player sale. I understand the sentiment and he's not wrong, but since Robins has returned we've brought in 5+ loans throughout the course of season year on year apart from during the L2 campaign. I certainly can't see that changing this season.
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I think we’ll still sign 5-6 loanees and still reduce our reliance on the loan market.

Last season, all of our loanees, with the exception of Gykores, were important first team players. Perhaps this season, the aim is to have 2-3 good quality loans that boost the first team and the remaining loanees offering more strength in depth.

That’s how I interpreted Boddy’s words, and I could be wrong.
 
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