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Championship 'bubble waiting to burst' (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter SBAndy
  • Start date Dec 12, 2019
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SBAndy

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #1
Championship 'bubble waiting to burst' with clubs posting record losses in Premier League 'gamble'

Over half of the teams in the Championship spend more on wages than they receive in income. What the fuck?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #2
Yep, clubs are spending millions they don't have to try and reach the Premier League.

If the gamble fails and the owners don't want to plough the money in any more they are fucked, see Bolton.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #3
The new trend of selling the ground to the owner as a third party is equally alarming.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #4
if we get back there i think sisu will play it safe, maybe we could do it smart. who knows what future holds
 

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #5
fernandopartridge said:
The new trend of selling the ground to the owner as a third party is equally alarming.
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As a traditionalist, this really irks me. There are some wonderful stadium names in our league system that get ruined by this. Perfect example being St Andrew's. Who the hell has time in their day to call it St Andrew's Trillion Trophy Stadium?

Actually, it irks me in Cup competitions too. It may not be prestigious, but calling it the leasing.com trophy just sounds ridiculous.
 
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tisza

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6
the fact that parachute payments account for around of total Championship income shows how fragile the whole thing is.
It is little more than gambling.
It defies most common sense business principles that you allow such ridiculous wage levels and that you allow wages to fill any extra revenue. Nothing has been learnt from the collapse of the ITV deal.
all you see is clubs trying to find loopholes (like stadium sales, unrealistic sponsorship values) rather than address the issues.
Again press going on about a European suoerleague. Can kiss any PL clubs that don't make the cut goodbye as TV contract values plummet and all these clubs gambling on reaching the PL will be left high and dry - and the seemingly endless supply of overseas investors dries up as the appeal of PL football disappears.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #7
tisza said:
the fact that parachute payments account for around of total Championship income shows how fragile the whole thing is.
It is little more than gambling.
It defies most common sense business principles that you allow such ridiculous wage levels and that you allow wages to fill any extra revenue. Nothing has been learnt from the collapse of the ITV deal.
all you see is clubs trying to find loopholes (like stadium sales, unrealistic sponsorship values) rather than address the issues.
Again press going on about a European suoerleague. Can kiss any PL clubs that don't make the cut goodbye as TV contract values plummet and all these clubs gambling on reaching the PL will be left high and dry - and the seemingly endless supply of overseas investors dries up as the appeal of PL football disappears.
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Yeah, after years of the re-engineering the Champions League and Europa League they're finally now starting to create the shadow super league.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #8
Paul Anthony said:
As a traditionalist, this really irks me. There are some wonderful stadium names in our league system that get ruined by this. Perfect example being St Andrew's. Who the hell has time in their day to call it St Andrew's Trillion Trophy Stadium?

Actually, it irks me in Cup competitions too. It may not be prestigious, but calling it the leasing.com trophy just sounds ridiculous.
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Because we never had the milk/Rumbelows/Littlewoods/Carling/Coca-Cola Cup before.....

Maybe it's the .com that makes it sound that bit sillier to us slightly older generation.
 

lifeskyblue

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #9
No it should be FA Cup, League Cup and Mickey Mouse Trophy



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Ricketts

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #10
Naming rights sponsorship is not the problem.

Creative accounting and reckless ownership is.

SISU are going about things the right and sustainable way. They should get credit for that.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #11
Ricketts said:
Naming rights sponsorship is not the problem.

Creative accounting and reckless ownership is.

SISU are going about things the right and sustainable way. They should get credit for that.
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It's not entirely sustainable - they still have to cover cash losses each year. We may not have a severed artery but we've definitely got a bad cut that without careful monitoring and antibiotics could get nasty.
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Dec 13, 2019
  • #12
Paul Anthony said:
As a traditionalist, this really irks me. There are some wonderful stadium names in our league system that get ruined by this. Perfect example being St Andrew's. Who the hell has time in their day to call it St Andrew's Trillion Trophy Stadium?

Actually, it irks me in Cup competitions too. It may not be prestigious, but calling it the leasing.com trophy just sounds ridiculous.
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Ricketts said:
Naming rights sponsorship is not the problem.

Creative accounting and reckless ownership is.

SISU are going about things the right and sustainable way. They should get credit for that.
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I don’t think he was suggesting that naming rights is the problem more just that it takes away from the prestige of the competitions and stadiums.
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Dec 13, 2019
  • #13
I dont like SISU but what I do like is our regime of living within our means as much as possible which we failed to do under Richardson/McGinnity/Robinson etc...

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oldfiver

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  • Dec 14, 2019
  • #14


Record losses in Championship as wages score £795m | Accountancy Daily

Record losses in Championship as wages score £795m

The EFL Championship had a year of records in the 2017-18 football season with record revenue, wage levels and operating losses, according to Deloitte report

13 Dec 2019

English professional football contributed £2.1bn in taxes during 2017-18, up 10.5% from £1.9bn the previous season.

Championship clubs had record operating losses for a third successive season in 2017-18, rising to £361m up by 25%. There was a 54% hike in pre-tax losses to £320m, the second highest level ever recorded, while generating record revenues of £749m a 4% rise on the 2016-17 season, revealed the Deloitte Annual Review of Football Finance 2019.

Wolverhampton Wanderers recorded both the highest operating loss (£49m) and highest pre-tax loss (£57m) in the Championship.

Andy Turner, partner at Mercer and Hole said: ‘In the case of Wolves, they have got extremely good backers in Fosun and they have been prepared to back them financially, it is where the owners do not have such financial resources that problems can occur.

As a Wolves supporter, Turner follows the club closely, he said: ‘Wolves took a considered and well thought out risk backed by a good strategic plan and made it to the holy grail of the Premiership. I think they are doing very well this season balancing the small squad of 29 players and balancing commitments between Europa League and Premier League’.

Only Burton Albion and Hull City football clubs in the Championship reported both operating and pre-tax profits. Hull City (currently 14th in the league) reported the highest pre-tax profit in the division of £24m, largely as a result of a £31m profit on player transfers.

Burton Albion, which has since been relegated to League one and is in 15th place, reported a pre-tax profit of £500,000 in the 2017-18 season due to an increase in gate receipts and commercial income.

Dan Jones, partner at Deloitte said: ‘We expect that Championship clubs’ revenue in the 2018-19 season will remain at similar levels to that of the 2017-18 season.

‘However, with new broadcast rights arrangements in the 2019-20 season, which provides a reported 35% increase on the value of the current deal, we will then see another boost to the revenue of Championship clubs.

‘Unfortunately, without accompanying improvement in cost control discipline this will make no meaningful impact on the clubs recurring heavy losses.’

The total revenue of the Championship was dwarfed by the Premier League, with revenue of £4.86bn in 2017-18.

The top clubs in terms of revenue were Manchester United £590m, Manchester City £503m, Liverpool £455m, Chelsea £448m and Arsenal £389m.

Average player wage costs across the Championship rose by 11% to a total of £795m in 2017-18. The wages to revenue ratio also increased from 99% to 106%, showing the increasing level of financial risk that Championship clubs are willing to take in order to chase promotion to the Premier League.

Footballers playing in the Premier League earned a total of £2.4bn.

Although Premier League clubs recorded lower profitability in 2017-18 to £73m from £103m the previous year, collectively operating and pre-tax profits were the second highest in the history of the league with only one club reporting an operating loss.

Everton (currently 14th in the league) recorded an operating loss, with a £37m (149%) drop in profitability which shows the financial risk of attempting to break into the ‘big six’ to qualify for European football.

Some differences between clubs may arise due to different commercial arrangements and how the transactions are recorded in the financial statements (for example, merchandising and hospitality arrangements), and due to different ways in which accounting practice is applied so that the same type of transaction are recorded in different ways.

Premier League clubs’ net debt increased by almost £1bn to £3bn at the end of the 2017-18 season which was the highest level since 2009.

The largest improvement was at Arsenal, by £59m to a net funds position of £38m, following an increase in cash balances of £51m.

The largest increase in net debt was at Tottenham Hotspur, contributing over 60% of the consistent Premier League clubs’ increase in net debt, as a result of financing the new stadium.

There were eight Premier League clubs that reported a wages to revenue ratio in excess of the 70% of the indicative warning level used by UEFA as part of their Financial Fair Play Regulations.

The clubs which broke this threshold were Everton (85%), Crystal Palace (78%), AFC Bournemouth (76%), Leicester City (75%), Stoke, Southampton and West Bromwich Albion (74%) and Swansea City (71%).

This figure was an increase on the previous season where two clubs reported a ratio above this threshold.

Turner said: ‘If you have someone with significant financial resources and they want to finance a club in order to compete with some of the bigger Premier League clubs, and the funders are happy to put money into a football club in terms of equity then they should be able to do it.

‘I think that while the Financial Fair Play Regulations are there to protect and make sure clubs don’t go into too much debt, one of the problems with it is it protects the clubs that are already rich.

Going forward there are a number of proposed reforms to the transfer system including introducing a luxury tax on ‘excessive’ transfer spending, creating a clearing house for transfer money flows, restrictions on player loans.

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